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[mooSe_]

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[MYstIC G]

Actually, this is one of the few things I don't have much of a problem with because the benefits outweigh the cons.

Responsible drivers (like me) don't have to support the retards who can't or won't drive properly.
Makes it much harder to steal a car.
Potentially makes it much easier to plan roads and ease congestion.

I know there is the whole thing about surveillance but despite what the swivel headed have to say, I doubt the government much care about my weekly trip to Aldi and the butchers and my 10 minute drive to work every day.

Really, because the actual sensible black box would make sure the speed limit was enforced automatically by the car rather than force you to into an arbitrary safe/unsafe category and charge you accordingly. That's the issue with this is that it is nothing more than a revenue generation scheme and likely a stepping stone to road pricing, i.e. you now have 90% of cars with tracking so now we're going to bill you according to use. It's invasive and unnecessary, no generation before now has required this level of monitoring to obtain insurance.

 

[Moriath]

Shouldn't the last few posts about black boxes be in the UKIP thread?

 

[Edmond]

Shouldn't the last few posts about black boxes be in the UKIP thread?

Oh to see the confusion on job's face as he flicks between the two threads...

 

[MYstIC G]

Shouldn't the last few posts about black boxes be in the UKIP thread?

Trying to set a topic in random spam... *optimistic*

 

[Gwadien]

Really, because the actual sensible black box would make sure the speed limit was enforced automatically by the car rather than force you to into an arbitrary safe/unsafe category and charge you accordingly. That's the issue with this is that it is nothing more than a revenue generation scheme and likely a stepping stone to road pricing, i.e. you now have 90% of cars with tracking so now we're going to bill you according to use. It's invasive and unnecessary, no generation before now has required this level of monitoring to obtain insurance.

I don't drive, and i've never learnt, because i never saw the point with the price of insurance.

my friend has one of these, and he's a bit of a boy racer, it makes it safer for him, and everyone around him.

Also, if i learnt to drive, i'd rather save money on the insurance, get one of these, and get some cameras installed in the car to justify speeding for safety reasons (avoiding stuff etc)

But they shouldn't be mandatory, ofc.

 

[caLLous]

Not being a "bit of a boy racer" would make it even safer for him and everyone around him.

 

[Gwadien]

Not being a "bit of a boy racer" would make it even safer for him and everyone around him.

Replying to everything I post with bullshit responses would make you less of a nob.

But we don't live in an idealistic world, do we?


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[Job]

Actually, this is one of the few things I don't have much of a problem with because the benefits outweigh the cons.

Responsible drivers (like me) don't have to support the retards who can't or won't drive properly.
Makes it much harder to steal a car.
Potentially makes it much easier to plan roads and ease congestion.

I know there is the whole thing about surveillance but despite what the swivel headed have to say, I doubt the government much care about my weekly trip to Aldi and the butchers and my 10 minute drive to work every day.

File that under..'If youre not doing anything wrong you have nothing to worry about'

 

[Fweddy]

This video is well worth watching and the petition well worth signing.


View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kto5vuiS5rA

 

[Scouse]

Prolly worth attaching the link to the above...

 

[Raven]

File that under..'If youre not doing anything wrong you have nothing to worry about'

No, just go ahead and file it under "I am a responsible driver and I am fed up of having to pay ludicrous insurance premiums because they will give any spastic a driving license these days"

 

[Gwadien]

I'm doing some revision for an exam tomorrow, and I found the best technique to remember a name....

I've linked Becker, who's a New Left Historian with Boris Becker, who is Boris as in Russian Boris, so therefore, he's a communist!

 

[soze]

I very rarely drive over the limit. I want an accident camera just in case so if getting a tracker and camera combo saves me money then I am all for it.

 

[Ch3tan]

I've got a black box with Bell. It's great - it was about £500 cheaper than anywhere else, I get my no claims after 10 months and 7% off if they consider me a "safe driver".

I have the same and it's awful tbh, the ratings don't give you any valid feedback and forces you stay within limit no matter what.... like when you are on an empty 30 stretch and traffic starts queuing behind you. Also it doesn't understand the difference between harsh acceleration and moving off quickly smoothly. It seems to me their telematics only works with small engined cars.

 

[Ch3tan]

I should add, it did save me 500 quid nearly though. I won't stay with the policy next year though, even if I have to pay that 500 extra. I'll use them when they are compulsory but not until.

 

[soze]

I have the same and it's awful tbh, the ratings don't give you any valid feedback and forces you stay within limit no matter what.... like when you are on an empty 30 stretch and traffic starts queuing behind you. Also it doesn't understand the difference between harsh acceleration and moving off quickly smoothly. It seems to me their telematics only works with small engined cars.

Not aimed at you but this chaps my arse on the trip to work. It does not matter if a 30 is empty. 30 limits are nearly always in built up residential areas and are that limit because a person has a greater chance to survive being hit by you at that speed. I don't mind people speeding in a 60 or a 70 but people that speed in a 30 are idiots getting there a bit earlier is not worth killing someone for me. And I don't care if you speed 10000 times and don't hurt anyone the fact it could happen makes doing the speed limit worth it.

 

[MYstIC G]

No, just go ahead and file it under "I am a responsible driver and I am fed up of having to pay ludicrous insurance premiums because they will give any spastic a driving license these days"

So campaign for harder driving tests or higher points for driving offences, don't give the insurance companies (who screw you for profit) the next sick to beat you over the head with. You'll be talking out the other side of your mouth when they introduce a bad driver surcharge scheme. Speed 10% of your annual mileage 20% price hike.

 

[Ch3tan]

I don't mean doing 40 in a 30 which is only really appropriate on a road you know well that isn't residential and full of commuters, you can't even go 32 to 35 miles without it penalizing you... not even for a short time, like when you go downhill and gravity gives you a hand. Speed limits are not always correct, I have a stretch my way to work that is a 30 that goes via residential but busy road that turns into a counrty road but stays 30 before turning 40 only after gets some pubs and houses with drives turn into road. It's the wrong way round, and probably because there was a road accident previously that had nothing do with the limits.

 

[Ch3tan]

Also enjoy the motorways when you can't overtake... can't go over 70 remember....

 

[soze]

If they have no variance allowance they are stupid. I never intend to speed but I have been guilty of following traffic before and like you say there are hills ect. Honestly I think it should be based on an average if you spend over 15% of your time speeding then you get a slap on the wrist. That should allow you to overtake and allow for accidental speeding.

But I am someone who would sign up for automated driving in a second I hate driving with a passion. If I get a company car I want it to be an auto with cruise control sit behind something and coast

 

[ileks]

Also enjoy the motorways when you can't overtake... can't go over 70 remember....

Is it that bad? I've only had it a couple of weeks and haven't looked at how I've been doing. I've often got up to 75 maybe 80 occasionally on the motorway. If I lose the discount they offer I don't really mind but that's as bad as it gets right?

I must admit I didn't read the terms and conditions at all...

 

[Ch3tan]

In the motorways it's lenient to be fair. Expect low scores if you were consistently over though. after getting below average in my first few weeks I did a test week, I had to break harshly once because someone decided to try and occupy the lane I was in in the a3. Other than that I went over limit only briefly once or twice. So pretty safe week off driving...slow accelerating too. Got a bad rating that week with the feedback saying stay within the limits and avoid harsh braking.

 

[MYstIC G]

In the motorways it's lenient to be fair. Expect low scores if you were consistently over though. after getting below average in my first few weeks I did a test week, I had to break harshly once because someone decided to try and occupy the lane I was in in the a3. Other than that I went over limit only briefly once or twice. So pretty safe week off driving...slow accelerating too. Got a bad rating that week with the feedback saying stay within the limits and avoid harsh braking.

That confirms it for me tbh, having been in your car on the motorway that result is bullshit fella as your motorway driving has always been solid.

 

[MYstIC G]

If they have no variance allowance they are stupid. I never intend to speed but I have been guilty of following traffic before and like you say there are hills ect. Honestly I think it should be based on an average if you spend over 15% of your time speeding then you get a slap on the wrist. That should allow you to overtake and allow for accidental speeding.

But I am someone who would sign up for automated driving in a second I hate driving with a passion. If I get a company car I want it to be an auto with cruise control sit behind something and coast

That's why this is stupid, your brain won't record that information so you'll never know yourself.

 

[Scouse]

No, just go ahead and file it under "I am a responsible driver and I am fed up of having to pay ludicrous insurance premiums because the insurance industry is effectively a protection racket

Previously there were 600,000+ vehicle theft claims per year that the insurance industry had to shell out for, now there's less than 100,000 - yet premiums are more expensive than ever.

The lie is that accident claims have gone up, but accident statistics just keep on getting better and better...

 

[Scouse]

Basically, I want a system that penalises everyone else, but not me or people who drive like me.

The system should definitely know I don't need fining, despite me openly admitting being not very good and alluding to being a mobile hazard, albeit within the speed limit...

Fixed

 

[BloodOmen]

 

[ileks]

In the motorways it's lenient to be fair. Expect low scores if you were consistently over though. after getting below average in my first few weeks I did a test week, I had to break harshly once because someone decided to try and occupy the lane I was in in the a3. Other than that I went over limit only briefly once or twice. So pretty safe week off driving...slow accelerating too. Got a bad rating that week with the feedback saying stay within the limits and avoid harsh braking.

Cheers for the heads up. Sounds like they have a pretty rubbish model for now. I still think it has potential - they just need to improve on how they judge a safe driver.

BTW, how did you manage to mount it on your dashboard? I can't get the fucker to stick. It came loose at one point and they probably think I was doing 30 in reverse

 

[Moriath]

Trying to set a topic in random spam... *optimistic*

But was it you trying o set the topic by introducing it and getting three relevant posts.

I think you sir have broken the quantum equation and shall forever be fapped by wij.