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[Scouse]

Jeezus christ: Wales curriculum: New science GCSE prompts dumbing down fears

 

[Raven]

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There is a sign near where I used to live that says "Slow children at play"

 

[Scouse]

Which is exactly what i said

Was weary from trying to get Gwad to see sense

 

[Ormorof]

Jeezus christ: Wales curriculum: New science GCSE prompts dumbing down fears

When i did GCSEs it was integrated into a "double" this seems like going back to that model, was shit then so will probably be shit now too

 

[Scouse]

I was the 3rd year of GCSEs. The O-Levels that preceeded the GCSE's were way harder. They were more like the A-Levels I took in the early 90's.

Now the A-Levels are a bit like the GCSEs I took.

 

[Raven]

Can't have kids failing, it might upset them.

 

[Ormorof]

They could probably cut a lot of tat from schools and no one would notice. We need auto level scaling in real life so peeps can learn at their own pace rather than this cookie cutter crap that fails so many (even if that is the dystopia Job used to rant about)

 

[Scouse]

Can't have kids failing, it might upset them.

This is the model we've moved to. The American model.

We used to have really bright people, but they were underconfident because the system sucked that confidence out of them - so they didn't really try to create businesses.

The Americans are dumb as fuck but confident. They try and fail.

Apparently, the "hit" ratio for business favours the Americans - because you don't necessarily need brains. You need to give it a go**. But when you think of what it means for wider society - we're a bunch of dumb fucks, unpleasant to be around, do stupid shit constantly, weakens our ability to self-govern intelligently. Just bascially - the knock on effect of having a country full of poorly-educated people who've been sold short by an educational system that fails to challenge them properly.

Real shame.


**Edit: But the ratio per head of population for successful billionaires in Sweden vs America is better - so in purely economic terms there's a lot to be said for education if you do it right - and socially they're streets ahead of us, eh @Yoni?

 

[Gwadien]

I was the 3rd year of GCSEs. The O-Levels that preceeded the GCSE's were way harder. They were more like the A-Levels I took in the early 90's.

Now the A-Levels are a bit like the GCSEs I took.

When was the last time you looked at A-levels?

I mean, talking to teachers that have been teaching for 30 odd years have been saying that current GCSEs and A-Levels are the hardest they've ever seen.

But what do they know?

 

[Deebs]

I was the 3rd year of GCSEs. The O-Levels that preceeded the GCSE's were way harder. They were more like the A-Levels I took in the early 90's.

Now the A-Levels are a bit like the GCSEs I took.

All my O-level exams were written by Oxford University iirc.

 

[Gwadien]

All my O-level exams were written by Oxford University iirc.

Kinda still are...

OCR - awarding body for A Levels, GCSEs, Cambridge Nationals, Cambridge Technicals and other qualifications

OCR is a leading UK awarding body, providing qualifications for learners of all ages at school, college, in work or through part-time learning programmes.

ocr.org.uk

 

[fettoken]

Last bit made me a nervous wreck even knowing there's a safety line

 

[BloodOmen]

 

[old.Osy]

The richest families in the world, ranked

The richest families own billions, possessing $1.1 trillion in wealth collectively, according to Bloomberg.

www.businessinsider.com

 

[Scouse]

The richest families in the world, ranked

The richest families own billions, possessing $1.1 trillion in wealth collectively, according to Bloomberg.

www.businessinsider.com

Take all of their wealth off them.

Give them $100,000,000 for each family member.

Give the all of the rest to science, education and health funding.

 

[BloodOmen]

 

[Deebs]

MPs set to reject move to make water firms cut sewage discharges

Government opposes proposed amendment to environment bill designed to protect rivers

www.theguardian.com

Vote Tory.

I am not sticking up for the Tories in this but I want to be clear on my understanding before I write to my MP telling him he is a cunt for rejecting the amendment.

1. This is an amendment to an existing bill to make it a legal duty for water companies to take all possible steps to stop sewage entering waterways/rivers during a storm.
2. The original bill and any existing EU law written into UK law (when we left) will not be changed so the same restrictions water companies had before Brexit still exist now?

 

[Gwadien]

I am not sticking up for the Tories in this but I want to be clear on my understanding before I write to my MP telling him he is a cunt for rejecting the amendment.

1. This is an amendment to an existing bill to make it a legal duty for water companies to take all possible steps to stop sewage entering waterways/rivers during a storm.
2. The original bill and any existing EU law written into UK law (when we left) will not be changed so the same restrictions water companies had before Brexit still exist now?

But I thought leaving the EU would give us an opportunity to be better than the EU rather than having a race to the bottom?

 

[Deebs]

But I thought leaving the EU would give us an opportunity to be better than the EU rather than having a race to the bottom?

I am not arguing that as I said I am going to tell my MP he is a cunt for rejecting it. I am all for stronger regulations where it makes sense and this one of those.

 

[Raven]

But I thought leaving the EU would give us an opportunity to be better than the EU rather than having a race to the bottom?

For as long as dopes keep blaming literally everything on Brexit, we won't fix anything.

This has absolutely nothing to do with Brexit. It's a weak and cheap excuse.

The Tories would have pulled this shit, regardless...and let's not even discuss the fact that the EU is absolutely filthy when it comes to the environment, Germany in particular.

 

[Deebs]

For as long as dopes keep blaming literally everything on Brexit, we won't fix anything.

This has absolutely nothing to do with Brexit. It's a weak and cheap excuse.

The Tories would have pulled this shit, regardless...and let's not even discuss the fact that the EU is absolutely filthy when it comes to the environment, Germany in particular.

This is what I am trying to understand, the Government has not weakened the existing EU law which was enshrined into UK law, merely deciding not to make it a stronger bill? Which I think is wrong for many reasons.

 

[Raven]

Exactly, but that doesn't stop the weak of imagination.

They are doing exactly what the Tories want, bLaMe BrExIt

 

[Gwadien]

For as long as dopes keep blaming literally everything on Brexit, we won't fix anything.

This has absolutely nothing to do with Brexit. It's a weak and cheap excuse.

The Tories would have pulled this shit, regardless...and let's not even discuss the fact that the EU is absolutely filthy when it comes to the environment, Germany in particular.

Who blamed brexit? I'm sure Deebs was the first to mention the EU.

 

[Deebs]

Who blamed brexit? I'm sure Deebs was the first to mention the EU.

I mentioned the EU to put my understanding into context as from what I can see nothing has changed in law due to Brexit and didn't want to bring that into my email to my MP.

But you mentioned that being outside of the EU and a race to the bottom but as above, nothing lawfully has changed.

 

[Bodhi]

This is what I am trying to understand, the Government has not weakened the existing EU law which was enshrined into UK law, merely deciding not to make it a stronger bill? Which I think is wrong for many reasons.

Bit more info on the whys and what's going on in the thread below, turns out there's a lot more to it that just blaming teh toaries (hard to see how it's related), Brexit (unrelated), Privatisation (unrelated).


View: https://twitter.com/RainwaterLorna/status/1452601791464579080?s=20


There's a lot to do to fix the problem, mostly created by our old combined Sewage and Drainage pipes from the pre-1970's. I can also pretty much guarantee that if you were to nationalise the water companies, as a few on this forum have a major erection about doing, investment would drop and the problem would probably get worse.

 

[Deebs]

Bit more info on the whys and what's going on in the thread below, turns out there's a lot more to it that just blaming teh toaries (hard to see how it's related), Brexit (unrelated), Privatisation (unrelated).


View: https://twitter.com/RainwaterLorna/status/1452601791464579080?s=20


There's a lot to do to fix the problem, mostly created by our old combined Sewage and Drainage pipes from the pre-1970's. I can also pretty much guarantee that if you were to nationalise the water companies, as a few on this forum have a major erection about doing, investment would drop and the problem would probably get worse.

Just found this which is also interesting:

Beware of the sewage emanating from Fake News websites

If you’ve spent any time on social media in the last week or so you’ve probably seen complaints about ‘Tory MPS voting to pour sewage in our rivers’. As someone who is passionate about the environment, I couldn’t believe that politicians would vote to do this and was about to call my MP to...

capx.co

 

[Raven]

Who blamed brexit? I'm sure Deebs was the first to mention the EU.

But I thought leaving the EU would give us an opportunity to be better than the EU rather than having a race to the bottom?

 

[Scouse]

The word "first" @Raven?

Anyway @Deebs - they're going to blame cost. They're going to say they would have to redesign our entire sewerage system since the 1890's to put in proper capacity to deal with rainfall.

Of course, as someone who studied sewer design and treatment plant design at university, that's bullshit. They're just the pipes. IMO it's the treatment plants that need massive capacity uplift IMO.

But private companies won't do it. Aren't doing it. They're still paying shareholders because it's cheaper to be fined (not that they ever get fined) to dump raw shit into our watercourses.

As has ever been the case. We've not progressed on any environmental measure during my lifetime - but we have managed to put a shitload of species out of comission for good, and put huge swathes of other species, plants and animals, on the verge of extinction.

 

[Scouse]

World has wasted chance to build back better after Covid, UN says

Report says countries must strengthen climate ambitions after wasting chance to build back better after Covid

www.theguardian.com

 

[Scouse]

We're going to geoengineer. That's going to become hugely popular in ten years time.

Governments will do nothing - we'll be presented with a "fait accompli" - we have to do it, or the consequences will be catastrophic.

So the public will demand it.