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Moriath

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@Scouse why the facepalm and run? Those after me seem to agree its ok for shop workers to wear cameras.

you doing what you accuse others of?
 

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Its self preservation. When dealing with a volatile public why wouldnt you?
It's about the world you want to live in. Think of the logical conclusion.

Short term Tesco can beef up security staff. Long term this whole issue stems from inequality and education and all of the knock-on from that.

If this is genuinely a worsening problem (rather than simply a better reported problem or a problem of increasing snowflakification (bar the violent altercations)) then CCTV is a sticking plaster when the answer is to get at the root cause of the issue and do the hard work to transform our society and economy into one that doesn't pump out boatloads of chavs.
 

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It's about the world you want to live in. Think of the logical conclusion.

Short term Tesco can beef up security staff. Long term this whole issue stems from inequality and education and all of the knock-on from that.

If this is genuinely a worsening problem (rather than simply a better reported problem or a problem of increasing snowflakification (bar the violent altercations)) then CCTV is a sticking plaster when the answer is to get at the root cause of the issue and do the hard work to transform our society and economy into one that doesn't pump out boatloads of chavs.
No, i dont think the problem is changing so much as new technology has come along to help protect people from whats always been happening. So why wouldnt you?
 

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I refer the honourable gentleman to the answer I gave above.


That's why I tend to facepalm you a bit. What's the point when you don't read the given answers?
In your anti surveillance tin foil hatted world i can see why you would’t. But for those in the real world They have obviously made different choices. And your argument was on the escalation or the more frequent issues. Which i said i dont believe was accurate and theirs no documentation provided by you to back that up.

so the question was on the basis that what you said wasnt true why would you not wear and camera if it made you feel safer ? Obviously you never would except when you want to hare down a mountain.
 

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Ryanair have some questions to answer here, especially as the airport they diverted to may not have been the closest.


View: https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/1396498902078140416


Of course the airport in Vilnius may not have been available, but it is weird.


If there is a threat or medical emergency they would land at the closest available airport with facilities to cope (aircraft type etc.) They would have contacted ATC and been directed to VNO. Guessing the timing of the emergency was crucial to their plans to nab him. Seems to have been a well planned operation.
 

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All these tinpot dictators need to be dealt with really, preferably by a Romanian-style revolution.
 

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All these tinpot dictators need to be dealt with really, preferably by a Romanian-style revolution.
To be honest Europe and the US need to stand up to these fuckers. However they've rightly calculated that they can get away with pretty much anything since Putin annexed parts of Georgia and Crimea and the West did nothing of consequence.
 

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Time to shut their money off. Freeze their mates' assets. Stop anyone connected with these criminals from entering any EU countries, the UK, US, anywhere they like to spend their money. Make them all pariahs.

Putin mightn't care if he's banned from travelling to a country, but his rich mates who support him would soon get pissed off at having their wealth removed from their control.
 

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Time to shut their money off. Freeze their mates' assets. Stop anyone connected with these criminals from entering any EU countries, the UK, US, anywhere they like to spend their money. Make them all pariahs.

Putin mightn't care if he's banned from travelling to a country, but his rich mates who support him would soon get pissed off at having their wealth removed from their control.
That's what Magnitsky sanctions are. Read Bill Browder's Red Notice for info. Great book actually.
 

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It's almost like we're not in on the wealth side though.

Oh, but wait.
 

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So American comic writers (Writer of spiderman) called out Japan because of the boobs etc shown in Japanese Anime... Anime fans in Japan turned around en-massed and told America to fuck off with their PC bullshit lol. Thoughts?
 

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I don't get why we don't just completely isolate these fucking shit pot countries. Well I do know, $$$

Oh, all that wealth stored in the west? Cancer research are very grateful, thank you.

Same with the Saudis. What's that, you persecute the gays? Thanks for the cash!
 

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Also probably the best way to harden the resolve of a country; look at Putin with all the years of economic penalties, his support hasn't really diminished and that popular support is probably more important than the support of the oligarchs, and let's face it, Putin controls them too.
 

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So American comic writers (Writer of spiderman) called out Japan because of the boobs etc shown in Japanese Anime... Anime fans in Japan turned around en-massed and told America to fuck off with their PC bullshit lol. Thoughts?
I guess that's them telling the writers to stay in their lane.
 

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So American comic writers (Writer of spiderman) called out Japan because of the boobs etc shown in Japanese Anime... Anime fans in Japan turned around en-massed and told America to fuck off with their PC bullshit lol. Thoughts?
That the American writers have no influence in Japan and different cultures accept different things. Jog on.
 

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