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[Raven]

They probably need proof that people still shop in COOP, horrible food.

 

[Bodhi]

Co-op is using facial recognition tech to scan and track shoppers

Branches of the Southern Co-op are using facial recognition to look for potential shoplifters. The roll-out raises concerns about the creep of surveillance tech in the private sector

www.wired.co.uk

big co-op watching you.
@Scouse

Bringing that in just after face coverings have been mandated everywhere is fairly epic timing.

 

[Wij]

View: https://twitter.com/WhoresofYore/status/1336920562141196289


your relative @Wij ?

The actual me actually.

 

[Scouse]

Co-op is using facial recognition tech to scan and track shoppers

Branches of the Southern Co-op are using facial recognition to look for potential shoplifters. The roll-out raises concerns about the creep of surveillance tech in the private sector

www.wired.co.uk

big co-op watching you.
@Scouse

The private realm is unregulated - which is shit really. People justify it by saying "companies can do what they like - you don't have to buy from them" - but if they all do it...

...we're the most surveilled population on the planet. We have zero real freedom. We're a race of slaves.

 

[Moriath]

The private realm is unregulated - which is shit really. People justify it by saying "companies can do what they like - you don't have to buy from them" - but if they all do it...

...we're the most surveilled population on the planet. We have zero real freedom. We're a race of slaves.

No we are not the most. china holds that record and the government uses facial recognition as a matter of course and population control.

 

[Scouse]

No we are not the most. china holds that record and the government uses facial recognition as a matter of course and population control.

I'll give you that - but in terms of the most surveilled cities london does hit third on the list.

But in the supposedly free western world. Meh. Our economic system is more of a slavery tool than cameras anyway.

 

[MYstIC G]

No we are not the most. china holds that record and the government uses facial recognition as a matter of course and population control.

I'd rather not live in a society based upon "not as bad as" thanks

 

[Scouse]

Just to confirm in case anyone ever wondered: diversity and inclusion agendas are NOT lipservice only in global organisations.

Sat on a planning meeting to spend $2.7bn next year and D&I has taken up 20% of the hour...

 

[Job]

Well of course they are going to take it seriously, facing an army of lawyers, moral outrage and public shaming guaranteed.
Im surprised its not 90% of meetings.

Anyway came to show you a glimpse of our dystopian tech future, the possibilities are endless of course, we can use code and sensors to completely undermine social interaction, or even the very fundamentals of human existence.

The new Halo health band from Amazon, pictures of you naked and a spoken notification to warn you that your tone of voice is becoming emotional.

Amazon's new health band is the most invasive tech we've ever tested

Amazon has a new health-tracking bracelet with a microphone and an app that tells you...

www.greenwichtime.com

 

[Raven]

Don't buy one then, jesus.

 

[Scouse]

Well of course they are going to take it seriously, facing an army of lawyers, moral outrage and public shaming guaranteed.
Im surprised its not 90% of meetings.

I think the moral outrage and public shaming of companies absolutely started the process.

But this is now about cultural change. We don't need to have lots of meetings about it - we now just act in that fashion in our decision making processes.

We want, as an entity, to properly represent the customers we serve and our colleagues we work with. And we're finding, as a side benefit, the diversity of thought that happens when you have diversity of representation is helping our profitability.

Customers win, the employees win and there's more money in it.


It's clearly, 100%, the right thing to do.

 

[Job]

The squeaky wheel gets the grease.
The next step of course on this journey of equality is poor people getting things cheaper, ugliness classed as a disability...it should be actually, they are by far the most disriminated against people on Earth....low IQ people getting easier exams, they do already to an extent and tourretes not seen as a problem for a CEO.
You may argue that ridiculous endgames is not an argument against movement now.
But I really think we should pay more attention to what we want from this.

 

[Scouse]

The squeaky wheel gets the grease.

Because generally squeaking is indicative of a grease defecit.

You may argue that ridiculous endgames is not an argument against movement now.
But I really think we should pay more attention to what we want from this.

We are doing - hence the push for diversity and inclusion. Because it improves things for everyone.

White people included. Poor people most of all.

 

[Bodhi]

Just to confirm in case anyone ever wondered: diversity and inclusion agendas are NOT lipservice only in global organisations.

Sat on a planning meeting to spend $2.7bn next year and D&I has taken up 20% of the hour...

It's being brought in in our place as well. I remain to be convinced what it adds over the existing legislation and company policy, and our company is already pretty diverse - but it keeps HR people busy I guess.

 

[Aoami]

It's being brought in in our place as well. I remain to be convinced what it adds over the existing legislation and company policy, and our company is already pretty diverse - but it keeps HR people busy I guess.

How diverse are the decision makers? I've always thought my place was quite diverse, cos on the ground it is, but basically everyone is any position of power is a middle aged white bloke, except one middle aged women on the board.

 

[Scouse]

everyone is any position of power is a middle aged white bloke, except one middle aged women on the board.

Not diverse then.

Starts from the top down.

 

[Aoami]

thats quite clearly the point i was making lol

 

[Bodhi]

How diverse are the decision makers? I've always thought my place was quite diverse, cos on the ground it is, but basically everyone is any position of power is a middle aged white bloke, except one middle aged women on the board.

It's a Californian software company founded by a woman in the 70's, and she's still there as President so it isn't anywhere near as bad as you describe. Ecomm is mostly white middle aged but a decent split of men to women, management in the UK is pretty much all women, and I'd say our office represents the ethnic breakdown in the area pretty well.

We do spend a lot of time taking the piss out of our French colleagues, but I'm pretty sure that's expected.

 

[Raven]

But then on the flip side, only an extremely weak organisation would employ based on skin colour or gender.

I can't be arsed to look up any up to date statistics but if 80% of the population are while then one would expect, roughly, that 80% of board members are white. Giving minorities and women an equal footing on the education ladder is a start which they are getting these days. You can't do much more than what we are doing for straight up racism though, thankfully they are a dying breed.

There are various naturally unfair things for women, giving birth one of them. Taking a year off for any reason in any professional setting is going to set you back, not only getting up to speed with the company but current legislation, markets, even the rhythm of the company that you work for, all sorts. Do it a couple of times over decade and you're buggered. What we can do about that I have no idea. Allow men to give birth? Symbolic ofc.

 

[Moriath]

Positive discrimination sucks. It should be best person for the job. Not oh we are a bit down on chinese ppl we have to just hire them for a while.

My CEO is a woman. she was born in Holon, Israel,[4] to Jewish parents.[5][6]Her father was an immigrant from Romania. Is now an american billionaire

 

[Job]

Because generally squeaking is indicative of a grease defecit.



We are doing - hence the push for diversity and inclusion. Because it improves things for everyone.

White people included. Poor people most of all.

I was commenting in the abstract, inequality and difference is one of the cornerstones of life, its what drives us and makes life interesting enough to see it through.
Im sure our brains could evolve to gain stimulus from absolute stagnating sameness, but given that we are on a mission to achieve it, where do you think it should stop?
At the point where its impossible not to be in any state of difference, or someway back where the amount allowed is dictated by cultural fashion, controlled by big tech
Im not talking about an even playing field, the end game of adjusting all players abilities so they can all win.
Enforced fairness which probably breaks some unkown law of the universe , we are all here because someone or something lost and on a continual basis our bodies devour life of every level to survive.

This all might sound a bit batshit, but everything Ive mentioned has begun its inplimentation because logic demands it.
We decided slavery was unjust..well the west did.
Then we decided gender discrimination, homosexuality was unjust.
Now we are turning on meat eating and our effect on nature itself.
Next will be geographical disadvantage, then cognitive ability.
And the upcoming biggie, can we use robots as slaves?
I'm just saying, its a can of worms.

 

[dysfunction]

I was commenting in the abstract, inequality and difference is one of the cornerstones of life, its what drives us and makes life interesting enough to see it through.
Im sure our brains could evolve to gain stimulus from absolute stagnating sameness, but given that we are on a mission to achieve it, where do you think it should stop?
At the point where its impossible not to be in any state of difference, or someway back where the amount allowed is dictated by cultural fashion, controlled by big tech
Im not talking about an even playing field, the end game of adjusting all players abilities so they can all win.
Enforced fairness which probably breaks some unkown law of the universe , we are all here because someone or something lost and on a continual basis our bodies devour life of every level to survive.

This all might sound a bit batshit, but everything Ive mentioned has begun its inplimentation because logic demands it.
We decided slavery was unjust..well the west did.
Then we decided gender discrimination, homosexuality was unjust.
Now we are turning on meat eating and our effect on nature itself.
Next will be geographical disadvantage, then cognitive ability.
And the upcoming biggie, can we use robots as slaves?
I'm just saying, its a can of worms.

What?

 

[Aoami]

We do spend a lot of time taking the piss out of our French colleagues, but I'm pretty sure that's expected.

100%, whats even the point of going to work if you can't do that?

 

[DaGaffer]

Not diverse then.

Starts from the top down.

Until you have sufficiently qualified and experienced people to fill the roles you can't have a diverse c-suite. You literally can't start at the top unless you're going to employ unqualified people. The only exception in the UK is women, and that deficit is being addressed pretty well.

 

[Aoami]

Until you have sufficiently qualified and experienced people to fill the roles you can't have a diverse c-suite. You literally can't start at the top unless you're going to employ unqualified people. The only exception in the UK is women, and that deficit is being addressed pretty well.

They way my company is tackling this issue is by giving all employees a more or less direct line to the CEO. So even though they're not in positions of power, they can make their ideas heard. There is also a board of employees (which i'm on) who are tasked with holding the board to account on these matters, to make sure it is happening and isn't just lip service.

It sort of works, but I keep upsetting the CEO by telling him things that he doesn't want to hear, like the shit jokes he sends round aren't funny. This culminated in him sending a completely serious company wide email back in April telling people if they don't find him funny they can fuck off and work somewhere else. Ironically, It's the only funny thing he's ever done.

 

[Scouse]

Until you have sufficiently qualified and experienced people to fill the roles you can't have a diverse c-suite. You literally can't start at the top unless you're going to employ unqualified people. The only exception in the UK is women, and that deficit is being addressed pretty well.

I agree - but these people aren't that hard to find.

Executive exceptionalism is a bit of a lie tbfh. The only thing you don't get is experienced - but frankly, when you hire masters-level grads from red-brick universities there's a fuckton of them. You don't always have to hire the white ones from already-rich families. There's plenty of brown ones from already rich families to fill the gaps with.

My beef is that we're doing racial diversity very well - but we don't do social diversity half as well. (Our shareholders got rid of the guy who worked up from the shop floor, despite him doing very well indeed).

 

[Scouse]

I'm just saying, its a can of worms.

Can of worms is a bad thing.

Progress on all of the points you've mentioned has been good. So it's not a can of worms. It's a can of roses.

 

[Job]

Tom Jones and Beverly Knight are presenting a gospel music night over Christmas, which is splendid.
It would seem someone at the beeb thought he was a bit too white for the article about it .

 

[Aoami]

Tom Jones and Beverly Knight are presenting a gospel music night over Christmas, which is splendid.
It would seem someone at the beeb thought he was a bit too white for the article about it .

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His Da was a coal miner, that's where he gets the skintone from

 

[dysfunction]

Tom Jones and Beverly Knight are presenting a gospel music night over Christmas, which is splendid.
It would seem someone at the beeb thought he was a bit too white for the article about it .

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There you go with your racist bullshit yet again