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Raven

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What you have to understand about the Guardian and their fans is they are completely blind to any form of argument. Their opinion is the only opinion...much like any olde worldy news organisation.

I don't get why anyone bothers with any newspaper, they are all run with an agenda from their editor/owner, not a single one is actually neutral.
 

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they are all run with an agenda from their editor/owner, not a single one is actually neutral.
Actually - if you look at the Guardian's ownership and setup, you'll find it quite unique.

owned by The Scott Trust Limited. The Trust was created in 1936 "to secure the financial and editorial independence of The Guardian in perpetuity and to safeguard the journalistic freedom and liberal values of The Guardian free from commercial or political interference." The Scott Trust became a limited company in 2008, with a constitution to maintain the same protections for The Guardian. Profits are reinvested in journalism rather than to the benefit of an owner or shareholders
 

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I like the paper..sticks to its guns, shamelessly liberal.
Had a bit of a problem with personal attacks in the forums and over reacted.
 

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Not so liberal when you look at their tax affairs though...

They are massive hypocrites, condemning the likes of Apple when they themselves also avoid tax.
 

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Not so liberal when you look at their tax affairs though...

They are massive hypocrites, condemning the likes of Apple when they themselves also avoid tax.
I don't see it as hypocrisy - they're campaigning for the shutting down of these tax-avoiding structures. You live by the rules, but you campaign for better. Any other method is utterly moronic and self-defeating.

Do you think they should deliberately weaken their campaigning voice voluntarily - or should they bring whatever they've got to bear to level the playing field and then, when the fight is won, happily abide by the rules they pushed for?


Leading by example is to be admired - unless by doing that you hand the winning ticket to the unscrupulous, like a fool...
 

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So mohammed tops the baby names again in the UK, a debate ensues about combining similar names, Ollie and Oliver are seperate, but to get mohammed top you have to combine the three ways to spell it.
Pretty obvious they are all mohammed though, Ollie and Oliver are seperate names.
7000 kids called mohammed born this year so far....they do like the name, in a sort of all part of the brainwashing kind of way.
 

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So mohammed tops the baby names again in the UK, a debate ensues about combining similar names, Ollie and Oliver are seperate, but to get mohammed top you have to combine the three ways to spell it.
Pretty obvious they are all mohammed though, Ollie and Oliver are seperate names.
7000 kids called mohammed born this year so far....they do like the name, in a sort of all part of the brainwashing kind of way.

Who the fuck cares? Its like moaning that everyone in Wales is called Jones. The only reason its noticable is because boys get Mohammed first and then another name as their "most called name". Its not uncommon amongst other God-bothering types; I had an extreme proddy Northern Irish mate at Uni who we all knew as Johnny, but his actual first name was William, which was also the first name of his four brothers...

(As a side note, every single Ollie I know was christened Oliver).
 

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I don't see it as hypocrisy - they're campaigning for the shutting down of these tax-avoiding structures. You live by the rules, but you campaign for better. Any other method is utterly moronic and self-defeating.

Do you think they should deliberately weaken their campaigning voice voluntarily - or should they bring whatever they've got to bear to level the playing field and then, when the fight is won, happily abide by the rules they pushed for?


Leading by example is to be admired - unless by doing that you hand the winning ticket to the unscrupulous, like a fool...

None of this post shocks me if I'm honest.

What does shock me however, is all the social good Guardian Media Group could have done if they'd paid any tax on the £300 million they made when they sold Auto Trader.

Sadly, thanks to a shell company in the Cayman Islands, they paid fuck all.

Do as they say, and all that jazz I guess.
 

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So mohammed tops the baby names again in the UK
As a percentage of babies born that's still a tiny number - it's because muslims get called mohammed.

7000 kids out of 700,000 per annum is 1%.

Ooooh! One percent of babies are muslim in the UK. Be scared! That's still 98% not muslim right there for you @Job, presuming they don't call their girls Mo too...
 

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Yes I and everyone else knows that, it's more of a dig at muslims culture of calling their sons Mohhamed.
Of course women never get associated with the Prophet...cos you know ..Islam.

Oh and by the way muslims are now 10% of babies and toddlers, you can read into that at your pleasure.
 
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Oh and by the way muslims are now 10% of babies and toddlers, you can read into that at your pleasure.

So fucking what, seriously I pretty much ignore most of your posts as when I read them back in my head I cant help imagine you bashing the fuck out of your keyboard as you type and mouthing every word through gritted teeth.

I'm sure Britain First have a forum too, I'm sure you'd be very welcome there. You seem to be so full of hate don't you?
 

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So fucking what, seriously I pretty much ignore most of your posts as when I read them back in my head I cant help imagine you bashing the fuck out of your keyboard as you type and mouthing every word through gritted teeth.

I'm sure Britain First have a forum too, I'm sure you'd be very welcome there. You seem to be so full of hate don't you?

Congratulations, you have posted enough left-wing comments to join the Brotherhood of Freddyshood Anarchists.

Our honorary President Comrade Scouse will be messaging you shortly with an invitation to the initiation ceremony.

After we discuss the example of perfection with the subject case being Cuba, Comrade Teedles will invite you to a session on the pros of cycling in London, followed by listening to deep music with Comrade Teedles telling you how 'these lyrics are so cool man' whilst having conspiracy theories of 9/11 playing in the background.
 

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Hmmm....the BFA, it has a ring to it
No, The true acronym is BoVA in order to allign ourselves with the poorer people living around London and parts of the East Midlands, for both pronounce 'brother' this way.
 

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So fucking what, seriously I pretty much ignore most of your posts as when I read them back in my head I cant help imagine you bashing the fuck out of your keyboard as you type and mouthing every word through gritted teeth.

I'm sure Britain First have a forum too, I'm sure you'd be very welcome there. You seem to be so full of hate don't you?
You're the one bashing the keyboard about facts.
 

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I reserved a bike today.
Congratulations, you have posted enough left-wing comments to join the Brotherhood of Freddyshood Anarchists.

Our honorary President Comrade Scouse will be messaging you shortly with an invitation to the initiation ceremony.

After we discuss the example of perfection with the subject case being Cuba, Comrade Teedles will invite you to a session on the pros on upgrading your bike to a much more efficient one, and totally getting rid of your car! Followed by listening to deep music with Comrade Teedles telling you how 'these lyrics are so cool man' whilst having conspiracy theories of 9/11 playing in the background.
 

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Congratulations, you have posted enough left-wing comments to join the Brotherhood of Freddyshood Anarchists.

Our honorary President Comrade Scouse will be messaging you shortly with an invitation to the initiation ceremony.

After we discuss the example of perfection with the subject case being Cuba, Comrade Teedles will invite you to a session on the pros on upgrading your bike to a much more efficient one, and totally getting rid of your car! Followed by listening to deep music with Comrade Teedles telling you how 'these lyrics are so cool man' whilst having conspiracy theories of 9/11 playing in the background.
Is this the first self-Glen?
 

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