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Gwadien

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All comes down to; can you legalise thoughts?

Even if you go out of your way to get an imaginary 9 year old to your house, there's no crime committed as there's no victim.

Yes, because it's intent - if you go out of your way to meet a 9 year old, then that is clearly illegal, but if you're wanking over a 9 year old computer image, surely that's different, I mean if I read the article correctly, that counts as being as wanking over that genre of Japanese porn where they're underage.
 

old.Tohtori

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I intend to do a lot of things, but since i'm a "nice person" i don't. Intent is bullsh*t. Attempt i can get behind.

Child pornography is illegal as well, there was none in this or the ones entrapping would be the only ones guilty.
 

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I think we need to establish if under-age anime porn is illegal first, if it's not, then it's a whole different kettle of fish, but if it is, then the justification is probably there.
 

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The whole point is that the Sweetie thing was well-done enough to make them think she was real, surely? It looks pretty convincing and they could make her move and react in real-time. So the guy wasn't fapping to something he knew was fake at all.
 

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http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-29688996

I'm a bit confused to how they can prosecute for this, it's like having someone shoot a doll them thinking it was real then arresting them for murder...

Or those anime porn things with 'kids' in.
If you read what he was sentenced for its not really to do with enticing the non kid. It's sending pictures and having kiddie porn on his pc
 

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If you read what he was sentenced for its not really to do with enticing the non kid. It's sending pictures and having kiddie porn on his pc
He admitted sending obscene pictures of himself to Sweetie, having images of child sexual abuse on his computer and failing to comply with a sex offenders order.

It was both..

Judge Ryrie, in sentencing said Hansen had "a protracted interest in targeting children in various ways".

The fact the girl was not real was irrelevant, she said. "If you believe that's a nine-year-old girl, then that's the law, that's good enough."

Don't get me wrong, he's a scumbag, and he should go for prison for that, but because abusing children is such an awful crime, questionable motives are created in order to catch them, and used in courts, I mean, if 'Sweetie' was used to find these people, Police found these people, raided their house and found -other- evidence, that's 'hard' evidence. No pun intended.
 

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Aye, it's a slippery slope we seem to see more and more frequently. As in Intent is justification in it self to prosicute and convict...not sure I like the idea tbh.....
 

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So apparently there's a suspected russian mini sub in Stockholm archipelago right now and our navy is hunting it (it's presumed damaged because we snapped up russian maydays going to Kaliningrad). Tried going to google maps hoping to see something but most of scandinavia is completely blurred out for some reason. Can't be because of this incident because those maps aren't that frequently updated (....i think?). I do so hope it's a sub and that we catch it though, seriously please let it be a Russian mini sub filled with Spetsnaz divers... :D
 

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Suppose its about time you Scandinavians start a war, suppose the Balkan dudes have had their time.
 

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If we start a war we're gonna take back everything we lost at Poltava! :p
 

old.Tohtori

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The fact the girl was not real was irrelevant, she said. "If you believe that's a nine-year-old girl, then that's the law, that's good enough."

We could also ask "is wanking over my little pony fanart beasteality?"

No seriously, is it? :unsure:
 

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No wars please, I think I still have a war placement as Amphibious Soldier. Don't wanna fight no spetznas :)
 

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He sold his soul so I don't see why not.

I don't think he put his soul into the movies. The thing about Lucas is that it was always a vehicle to make money.

He didn't have a soul to start with :)
 

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Not used mine in around 5 years. Wife uses it to talk to her mum though and that's about it.
 

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I wouldn't mind if network coverage was flawless, but it ain't.
 

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Depends on the network, O2 is really good in my village but EE and Vodafone are utter garbage.

They all need to stop being massive felchers and just share all their masts.
 

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