Things that don't exist

[Ormorof]

i have to agree that the mind is useful for recovering, and for overcoming physical ability, ever heard of adrenaline? try throwing something heavy on a normal day and you might not throw it far, throw it if your life depends on it and you'll damn well throw it as far as it can go

the same goes for fitness, if you dont WANT to become fit you are never going to be fit and healthy (even if you try, and force yourself but dont really want to, peer pressure is a terrible thing ), however if you are determined to get fit (or survive a potentially deadly virus/disease) then you stand a better chance of surviving than if you just give up, sit down and say "fuck it, i cant be arsed"

 

[Mojo]

#6932 Decent threads on FH.

 

[Bubble]

1: Global warming cause by humans.

Well Humans didn't cause...they speeded it up by 40 million years or so

 

[Job]

The levels of radiation that troops were exposed to from ammunition were so utterly, ludicrously low, it is farcical to suggest anyone was made ill by it.

At any site where depleted uranium is found after a shell burst, the natural sand itself is more radioactive.
What happened in the courts was final recognition that going to war is pretty bleedin nasty and soldiers (who bothered to kick up enough of a fuss) should be paid off for not feelin good afterwards, wether it's in their heads or just normal illnesses everyone gets.
The statement that twice as many Gulf war vets get sick as normal workers....wel duh!!! they were contacted, knew of possible big pay outs and...well you can guess the rest.


It is all just who tells you their part of the story and what they have to gain from manipulating the data.
It was discovered that eating Ben and Jerry's icecream exposes you to more dioxins than ground troops who were sprayed with Agent Orange in the Vietnam war.
Of course there is noone taking B&J to court because ALL foods are the same, it's a lot easier to connect these extremely low levels from a WAR!! with soldiers getting sick and wanting MONEY!!!

 

[Frosen]

lol Job m8 you get better every day they should hire you to say these things on television.

edit: you could even take that doggy of your avatar with you and do the belly speaking thingy to make it even more convinsing :wub:

 

[Lumikki]

#6932 Decent threads on FH.

Lol.

Edit: Anyway Job, I'd tone down that "absorbing everything I read on the net" level, no offense, I'm sceptical about things too but........

 

[Jobil]

- Listen to the one that seeks the truth, beware of the one that has already found it... -
Freely translated from Danish.

 

[Marc]

lol Job, u are a star.

THA INTRANET TELS US THA TROOTH

 

[Fana]

"You think that's air your breathing?"

 

[Rep]

Funny that you claim to know what reality is and what not.

thats called sanity

 

[Thorwyn]

Every psychopatic will no doubt subscribe that what he sees and thinks is perfectly real.

 

[Darksword]

Il add one! Chesnox having a clue. See original 'smoking' thread before you start posting bs again, kthxbye

omg lol :') i still remember when u said u were gunna find where i live and pour petrol through the letter box LMAO omg, please do it, itll be funny as fuck coz ull just burn urself :') and me and tuts just ripping the piss in /gu omg lol I LOVE U COZAK

 

[Darksword]

omg lol and then u pmed me saying sorry lol KNOB EAD?!?

 

[Vindicator]

omg lol :') i still remember when u said u were gunna find where i live and pour petrol through the letter box LMAO omg, please do it, itll be funny as fuck coz ull just burn urself :') and me and tuts just ripping the piss in /gu omg lol I LOVE U COZAK

omg 'like' sombody is excited \o/

Calm down and shut your mouth. No need to rip the shit out of, what appears, to be your guildy. Nice and friendly eh ? ;>

Well... according to the physicans, he had just a couple months left, so I figure it was pretty serious. But that´s not the point of my post. The point is, that there are things happening in this world that can´t be explained by our rather naive cause and effect thing. Not because they´re some sort of miracle, but because we´re far FAR away from even understanding the basics of this life. On the other hand, we never seem to get tired of bragging how clever we are and how good and ominiscent our knowledge of the world is. It somehow reminds me of a bunch of dwarves in a dark room, sensing their way around one foot of an elephant, shouting "NOW we got it!".
We´re so far away from even understanding how our brain works, that I find it highly amusing to consider the human body some sort of bio-computer and bring the "doesn´t exist" argument. Just because we can´t explain doesn´t mean it doesn´t exist... just like the elephants belly doesn´t fail to exist because the dwarves can´t reach and see it.

Well my point wasnt that you can explain all situations or cause and effect solves all either. I was refering to that case, your example, which was just so far fetched if you can honestly think about it. The whole point of Occam's razor is to find the simplest explanation for something and use that, not the over complicated too thought out explanation. What you were suggesting was just that. Also, I dont think man kind will ever find all the 'answers' that are asked / sought but I do believe that they will be the simpliest of answers in heinz sight. Isnt that the beauty of life and everything thats in it? So amazing complex yet so simple and straight forward when you have just the slightest idea of what is involved in certain aspects.

What you were getting before were, scientific answers. If there is no hard fact / evidence to support it then it does not exist. That is what many believe and an increasing number of the western world to. The decline in Religion is a clear indication of that because religion is not based on fact's or evidence but on faith primarly. Hence why many shun it and choose not to accept it on face value. As for your analgy, we humans in a grander scale are nothing but a mere atom of a particle of dust on the floor of the room you speak of, existence.

 

[Cozak]

omg lol :') i still remember when u said u were gunna find where i live and pour petrol through the letter box LMAO omg, please do it, itll be funny as fuck coz ull just burn urself :') and me and tuts just ripping the piss in /gu omg lol I LOVE U COZAK

Oh, you, the fat little ginger kid from the internet cafe in durham who used to come in with your 3 mates cheat at CS and still get pwned? Ya i remember the time that eeles beat you up for cheating when he had the place open, says it all really ^^

 

[Ormorof]

according to the inland revenue i dont exist, nerf government databases

 

[Smurflord]

Continuing my sceptical rant.
9:Alternative medicine, don't start me on this one, if some 'natural' drug actually worked, then Glaxo would be banging down your door to buy it and make billions. They don't because it doesn't, people just fool themselves.

Why does homeopathy work on animals then?

Most commerical drugs are derivatives of 'natural' drugs, just refined to their active ingredients and purified. People like Glaxo invest millions each year investigation these natural alternatives and many form the basis of forthcoming drugs. Not ranting, just adding fuel to debate

 

[Vae]

according to the inland revenue i dont exist, nerf government databases

Lucky Bastard

Now if I could only manage to convince the Inland Revenue that they don't exist...

 

[Job]

I put 'natural' in commas to highlight the irony of the fact that most drugs are made form naturally occuring compounds, it may be a flower or and insect.
They isolate the bit that actually does the work, synthisize it and bang it out.

Homeopathy is like so bad it's not even funny, they claim that you can heal by taking a drug and then watering it down until not a single molecule can be detected in the 'water' which is all that is left.
What they are really doing is bypassing a rather handy law that states medicines have to be expensivly tested before sale, as Homeopathic medicines have no active compounds whatsoever you can sell them from a car boot sale if you want (and probably do).

 

[Ormorof]

Lucky Bastard

Now if I could only manage to convince the Inland Revenue that they don't exist...

hehe, my problem is im trying to work yet because i dont exist i obviously cant

 

[Smurflord]

Homeopathy is like so bad it's not even funny, they claim that you can heal by taking a drug and then watering it down until not a single molecule can be detected in the 'water' which is all that is left.
What they are really doing is bypassing a rather handy law that states medicines have to be expensivly tested before sale, as Homeopathic medicines have no active compounds whatsoever you can sell them from a car boot sale if you want (and probably do).

Firstly it works in animals, so it's not a placebo effect.

Secondly, I've seen a heart drug used on a cardiac muscle culture, then diluted to extinction, and still have the same effect. This isn't 2nd hand knowledge, I've seen it done in labaoratory conditions, first hand.