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Hmm if i had the choice between a stunning hib caster or a cleric/sorc duo, id go for the sorc every time
 

Baldanah

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Manisch , why don't you go an play an offline game , as all you seem to do is whine ....


albs can stun and nuke , mids can stun and nuke , hibs can stun and nuke , is it hibs fault albs need a cleric to stun and a sorc to nuke ( OR ANY OTHER NUKING CLASS ) no .. Blame Mythic or stfu .

Lets face it , you'll never be happy until the world revolves around you , wake up and smell the coffee , it aint gonna happen .
 

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Baldanah said:
Manisch , why don't you go an play an offline game , as all you seem to do is whine ....


albs can stun and nuke , mids can stun and nuke , hibs can stun and nuke , is it hibs fault albs need a cleric to stun and a sorc to nuke ( OR ANY OTHER NUKING CLASS ) no .. Blame Mythic or stfu .

Lets face it , you'll never be happy until the world revolves around you , wake up and smell the coffee , it aint gonna happen .
cant agree more with you :worthy: :cheers:
 

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Huntingtons said:
(treebeard, coz i saw you do it? Oo)

Rofl am sure you did, I didnt even know the meaning of it untill Adalyn explained earlyer :p Also in another thread Gamah said that carn't be done anymore anyway
And I hate playing in window mode as everything is to small and dark (If thats right and you need to be in window mode?)

But yeh, I window drag apparently oO :twak:
 

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Treeeebeard said:
Rofl am sure you did, I didnt even know the meaning of it untill Adalyn explained earlyer :p Also in another thread Gamah said that carn't be done anymore anyway
And I hate playing in window mode as everything is to small and dark (If thats right and you need to be in window mode?)

But yeh, I window drag apparently oO :twak:
i dunno how it's done but i know when a person lags off from the tanks casting it's abuse.
 

Treeeebeard

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Huntingtons said:
i dunno how it's done but i know when a person lags off from the tanks casting it's abuse.

Bad connection then? When ever i have tanks on me I either MoC cast or run in circles till am not beening attacked anymore.

Seriously, accusing me of something neiter of us knew anything about(Window dragging) is pretty lame...
 

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Baldanah said:
Manisch , why don't you go an play an offline game , as all you seem to do is whine ....


albs can stun and nuke , mids can stun and nuke , hibs can stun and nuke , is it hibs fault albs need a cleric to stun and a sorc to nuke ( OR ANY OTHER NUKING CLASS ) no .. Blame Mythic or stfu .

Lets face it , you'll never be happy until the world revolves around you , wake up and smell the coffee , it aint gonna happen .
but, now lets see - in fg rvr, the cleric is busy healing/shearing and on very low priority is the stunning, and to stun he has to be near the sorc to assist or check which target its after.
The eld on the other hand can nearsight nuke till in range, stun and nuke the bits there's left.
See the difference? Stun on caster is overpowered and only idiots dont understand it.
 

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Huntingtons said:
but, now lets see - in fg rvr, the cleric is busy healing/shearing and on very low priority is the stunning, and to stun he has to be near the sorc to assist or check which target its after.
The eld on the other hand can nearsight nuke till in range, stun and nuke the bits there's left.
See the difference? Stun on caster is overpowered and only idiots dont understand it.

can i just ask why you (and everyone else) are complaining about caster stun here? not like we can do anything about it and when its been in game for 3+ years i hardly think mythic is gonna do something about it.
i agree the in certain situations it can be op'd but ill trade caster stun for spamming stun pets everyday of the week
 

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Bleeker said:
can i just ask why you (and everyone else) are complaining about caster stun here? not like we can do anything about it and when its been in game for 3+ years i hardly think mythic is gonna do something about it.
i agree the in certain situations it can be op'd but ill trade caster stun for spamming stun pets everyday of the week

Not every alb caster can spam stun pets ... An give shrooms for keep/tower defending then
 

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Eeben said:
Not every alb caster can spam stun pets ... An give shrooms for keep/tower defending then

its the difference between the realms that make this game dont you agree? if all the realms where the same and every class had same specc how much fun would that be?

think of it like a challenge and not an obstacle to whine about (spec mastery of whine v here like some do).

for an example:
we (nfd) have big problems with maelstrom and do you see us whine about it? no you dont and you never will, we try to adapt (for instance i rolled a bm instead of my fragile elph, got help from most of the guild and now 1 month or so later im fully toad, ml9 (give ml 10 raid) and not far away from rr5), try different tactics and some will work and some wont, easy as that.
 

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im not qq'ing about it, but im trying to make you understand that it's overpowered and people have all the right to qq (if nobody qq'd nothing would be changed, or do you think svg's were magically nerfed on a /random 100 base?)
 

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Huntingtons said:
im not qq'ing about it, but im trying to make you understand that it's overpowered and people have all the right to qq (if nobody qq'd nothing would be changed, or do you think svg's were magically nerfed on a /random 100 base?)
savages was nerfed hard and fast yes, but caster stun has been in game since the start and i dont see how it will be nerfed by posting qq or flaming the hibs that use it (if you have an ability and not use it would that make you kinda stupid?), only thing that is gonna make some difference is contacting mythic about it with real and valid comments.
i personally played alb/excal for over 2 years before i moved to hib/pryd permanently so i also know the effects a stun has on an alb, (funny i dont see many mids complaining about it..wonder why that is).

as i said: contact mythic with some thought through comments on how it shall be nerfed and if enough ppl do that then there maybe will be a change...
 

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Bleeker said:
i agree the in certain situations it can be op'd but ill trade caster stun for spamming stun pets everyday of the week

then you are just an idiot :/
 

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mincers trying to camp hib poc entrance, zoning in and getting insta skilled by 30 shrooms xD
 

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Dreami said:
Vakten epic thane breaking mez or root when I'm playing Druid 8]

Herra thane doing that, is just precious ;D
happens all the time when im playing warden vs both those fgs :p
 

Manisch Depressiv

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Baldanah said:
Manisch , why don't you go an play an offline game , as all you seem to do is whine ....


albs can stun and nuke , mids can stun and nuke , hibs can stun and nuke , is it hibs fault albs need a cleric to stun and a sorc to nuke ( OR ANY OTHER NUKING CLASS ) no .. Blame Mythic or stfu .

Lets face it , you'll never be happy until the world revolves around you , wake up and smell the coffee , it aint gonna happen .

It's okay easy moder. Having the possibility of an easy mode (yeah, blaming Mythic for it) and chosing an easy mode (blaming Hibs :clap: ) are two different things.

Wait, I could go SoI+MoC3+Lajftap+MoM+WP and have an easy mode myself. Or I could roll a BD, Whorelock or a Stun/Debuff-Nuker and be RR11 by now.

Take it personal for playing easy mode if you want to, I don't give a shit. Everything that allows one class to beat the other without the other class being able to fight back is an easy mode and allways will be but I can understand that you are not interested in a balanced game.
 

Treeeebeard

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I just checked on roll of honer thingy and... Your a sorceress and complaining about others beeing easy mode? What spec did you go? Matter :x
 

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Bleeker said:
savages was nerfed hard and fast yes, but caster stun has been in game since the start and i dont see how it will be nerfed by posting qq or flaming the hibs that use it (if you have an ability and not use it would that make you kinda stupid?), only thing that is gonna make some difference is contacting mythic about it with real and valid comments.
i personally played alb/excal for over 2 years before i moved to hib/pryd permanently so i also know the effects a stun has on an alb, (funny i dont see many mids complaining about it..wonder why that is).

as i said: contact mythic with some thought through comments on how it shall be nerfed and if enough ppl do that then there maybe will be a change...
you said it was useless to qq about something (in this case baseline stun) and i try to convince you that crying changes the game.
 

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Manisch Depressiv said:
It's okay easy moder. Having the possibility of an easy mode (yeah, blaming Mythic for it) and chosing an easy mode (blaming Hibs :clap: ) are two different things.

Wait, I could go SoI+MoC3+Lajftap+MoM+WP and have an easy mode myself. Or I could roll a BD, Whorelock or a Stun/Debuff-Nuker and be RR11 by now.

Take it personal for playing easy mode if you want to, I don't give a shit. Everything that allows one class to beat the other without the other class being able to fight back is an easy mode and allways will be but I can understand that you are not interested in a balanced game.

things that amuse you turned into wajn by manisch whine king

omg m8s i could be rr11 if i played a r0x0rZ char, but i dont want to r0x0rZ, so ill roll a sorc like everyone else!
 

Manisch Depressiv

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Treeeebeard said:
I just checked on roll of honer thingy and... Your a sorceress and complaining about others beeing easy mode? What spec did you go? Matter :x

Yeah, but I went 46 Mind for a long time, ROG'ed my ass to RR5 mostly unbuffed and I refuse to MoC3 lifetap my ass to high RR and my second RvR char will be an Armsman and my Thid Sorc is indeed full matter spec. I rolled the Sorc not knowing how RvR is, I wanted a group friendly and PvE friendly char and people told me that a Sorc is a good choice and it turned out to be true: I can PL almost as good as a Necro with a Scorcher pet at some places in SI, I can farm quite good with ML9, some people even do Dragon raids with 2 Sorcs in 1 FG and the char is viable in group and solo RvR.

I'm quite sure I'd solo better with a Earth Wizz/Air Theurg/Spirit Cabalist than with a group specced Sorc. I'm not complaing about the easy mode, for me it's a fact. It's others calling me a whiner because I think some things in the game is easy mode. I'm against all kind of instas, all kind of triple-nuking/meleeing someone to death in 3-4 seconds and so on regardless if it is Albion or Midgard or Hibernia. Think the game would be a bit better when people would actually have the chance to react more to what is happening around them. I don't see much skill in going with maximal damage RAs on a class that can debuff own nukes and render the opponent defenceless with a stun for the 3 nukes.

I'm getting used to stay away from towers with stun nukers, I try to avoid Whorelocks and BDs and I don't have a real reason to whine sice I try to adapt. Yet those 3 things are easy mode par excellence and yes, Sorc is FOTM and very powerful in groups and solo.

I don't want to sound like an ass, but if I'd go to play Midgard again I'd never roll a BD, never roll a Whorelock, if I'd go to play Hibernia I'd never roll a stun nuker beside of a Mana Eld maybe (and that for the utility). When I played Hibernia my chars were Warden/Mana Eld, when I played Midgard my char was a Suppresion Runi. I'd roll a Pac Healer in Midgard and prolly a Warden again in Hibernia.

I think you have an idea now about my preferences in the game, I like to play defensive classes with good utility not something that can kill everything in 2-3 seconds.
 

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Manisch Depressiv said:
HEAHEHAHEHAHE IM COOL IRL!
haha you whine about op but play sorc :DD
sorcs still got best baseline nuke in game (dmg/spd wise and the return of it aint bad either) wanna try hardmode? make a set grp with necroes and armsmen. else stop the qq...
 

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Huntingtons said:
haha you whine about op but play sorc :DD
sorcs still got best baseline nuke in game (dmg/spd wise and the return of it aint bad either) wanna try hardmode? make a set grp with necroes and armsmen. else stop the qq...

Hello Mr. Eloquent, good day to you sir.
 

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Manisch Depressiv said:
It's okay easy moder. Having the possibility of an easy mode (yeah, blaming Mythic for it) and chosing an easy mode (blaming Hibs :clap: ) are two different things.

Wait, I could go SoI+MoC3+Lajftap+MoM+WP and have an easy mode myself. Or I could roll a BD, Whorelock or a Stun/Debuff-Nuker and be RR11 by now.

Has anyone in this thread told you that a Sorc is easy mode?
Don't give me crap about how difficult a sorc is to play, having a great nuke and a 72 second 2050 Range 400 Radious AoE mez is a much better combo than having a Stun in your baseline.
You picked your RA's, don't blame everyone else for not choosing the best combo's.
 

Manisch Depressiv

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Bubble, you can *go away with your "Manisch QQ" comments, I haven't read anything else beside this from you. I have some valid points against base line stun as others have them too and you come with overpowered Sorc crap. I know that a Sorc is a strong class, a lot of classes are that when played right.

I have actually fun playing my Sorc with a very good own template and nice spec so I don't know what the hell you are brabbeling about.
 

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Huntingtons said:
so you're claiming that you dont have moc? Oo

MoC1 for uninterruptable demezz and uninterruptable ghetto CC/interrupts.

Not a FOTM Sorc like Bubble who is trying to tell me a story here...
 

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