Things i want to tell/know about the FEs

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xfear

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well first of all, thnx all to cometo theese raids, and help me a lot, doing it better, and better in less time each time, and with less people :)

well first of all, want to ask the people who brought a catapult with ice balls, and helped us with fire/air primal, they dropped very fast, and as the rules say, all youre group will have +5 points, couse u did the effort to bring a catapult, with ice balls, but i would like to ask the people who brought them 1 thing , how much damage did u make to the primals with the siege weapons ?

and for the tanks/wardens etc etc, that get bore during fire/air primals, it will be a great idea to bring catapults with ice balls, for the next time, so all youre group will have +5 points, and u will help to do the raid in less time

well, second i would like to do 1 final encounter each weekend, couse normal raid & final encounter raid, normally take the same time , about 5 hours , and like u all know, final encounter raid >>>>> normal raid, couse we get like 2x more drops, 3x more respec stones , and final encounter drops ( ubber new drops, robes/vests etc etc ) , but i have 1 problem here, and the problem is that it takes a lot of time to me to call all the zerg, to do the raid, and later to add all the points for about 100 ++ , peeps, and this is a game, and like all people, i want to play RvR, chat with friends, etc etc, so i would like to have some volunteers to help me to call the zerg, and some friendly guilds which will help me incrisbing his guild in the FE, without waiting for me, to speak with his GM, etc etc

the person who will want to help me, the only thing, he must do, is to speak with the GM of each guild, and ask the guild, if they want to join the FE, how many people can the guild bring, and explain each GM,the voidie/animist rule, and tell that GM to read this forum for rules and information, thats all, its pretty easy, and i would be able to make 1 FE each weekend untill all hibernia has 1 vest/robe or 1 ubber final encounter drop

if we work together, we can be the most active realm in europe, we are doing it pretty good in RvR, and 1 raid each weekend ( that only takes one evening/night ), will no hurt the RvR in hibernia, but the drops we will get in the raids, will help a lot in RvR

and third , the weeks i can, i will make 1 normal raid on thursday too, to let the people waste his points, and to let the people get the "normal" items they want faster

well, now i need youre opinions/suggestions/critiks etc etc

and thanx all to read this big text xDDD
 
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old.Reno

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Great idea:D
But 1 question do you plan to do the FE on saturday or sunday or a mix of those days.
 
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xfear

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i will make the FE, when the people can come, and when there is no other events in that day, so lets tell a mix of saturday and sunday
 
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Sharp Thing

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now you get +5from bringing a catapult to? fk this point system, getting sillyer every time
 
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xfear

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5 if u bring 1,2,3,4,5, etc etc

only 5, not 5 for each

and i dont know what is the problem
 
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Sharp Thing

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Originally posted by xfear
5 if u bring 1,2,3,4,5, etc etc

only 5, not 5 for each

and i dont know what is the problem
ppl getting more then 100points, no way that the other players have any chance at that item then. like noone could loto for the bm vest bc davidian had 230points
 
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Xeanor

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yib

try doing 23 raids for a vest and then it drops and someone who just hit 50 and is in galla for the first time wins it instead of you

think about that
 
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old.SOSAGES

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But surely thats the whole idea of a lotto system :) everyones fair highest number wins ..a shame that someone who for example works on a weekend can never have a chance of going on the raids and getting the points but they still play mon-fri for 8 hours a day and are very active and on their day off they go to galla roll for a drop get the highest score and then somone comes along and adds 200 onto it beating everything they had :)

either increase the random number or set a limit on the amount of points u can have :)


im easy about galla and xfear does a good job but not everyone can put as much time into this game but that dont always mean they shouldnt be allowed a chance to get some items
 
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<Harle>

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I'm a bbig supporter of the whole point-system, but i think the 30 points for FE-raids is a bit over the top now the we will get them weekly. Maybe should consider lowering that a bit.
 
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boni_ofdavoid

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Originally posted by Sharp Thing
ppl getting more then 100points, no way that the other players have any chance at that item then. like noone could loto for the bm vest bc davidian had 230points

If you get that many points you have done shit load of really really long raids and not claimed a single item, farmed hundreds of items for your fellow realm mates. Imho you bloody well deserve the vest. And hey next time he goes he will be back to 0 points and someone else will get a shot.

XFears point system only seems unfair if you turn up for your first couple of raids and expect to get the stinger/vest etc, and tbh thats not really fair when other people have put in 2 days+ playtime in galla farming for their realmmates and have gone to the time and effort to fetch siege equipment and assemble the type of group that galla requires to do FE well.
 
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Ravenbourne

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Maybe have a limit to the amount of points you can use in one go to say, +100 the points you dont use you keep
 
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Sharp Thing

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sory, but some ppl (like me) cba going on uberboring raids for 6hours every week, for 20weeks just to get a chance at an item, that is why the point system sux :>
 
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boni_ofdavoid

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Originally posted by Sharp Thing
sory, but some ppl (like me) cba going on uberboring raids for 6hours every week, for 20weeks just to get a chance at an item, that is why the point system sux :>

If u cba, you dont deserve.
 
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old.SOSAGES

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if u had limit on the points it would work out better
 
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athar

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Xfear an answer on your one of your questions about catapults. Me and Suron fired about 20 ice balls at the air primal.
We had put exactly the same /groundtarget as Boni and after fireing an ice ball, neither one of us got the message "You hit the Air primal for XX damage". :(
But unlike last time i was there, now the air primal went down really fast.

So did we do damage or not ? I don't know but my guess is no, unless dmg message is bugged on flying things but the damage is still there ?
 
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boni_ofdavoid

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We had some great distracting on that raid. Realy makes a difference when the NS do their job well. At one point they held the fire primal inplace so well that I got a full negative mailstrom off on it and it dropped from about 40% health to about 10% in about 30 seconds..

Air is much tougher (or resistent to energy) than fire. GTAoE does 100+ to fire, but only around 50ish to air.
 
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censi

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23 previous raids does equate to about 120 hours of raiding to get a vest.

120 hours!

he certainly desearves it after all that...

On the other hand a lot of people I speek to dont go to raids as the points system is a little flawed...

You should cap out your points at 50 really or it starts getting ridiculous.
 
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old.Reno

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Originally posted by athar
Xfear an answer on your one of your questions about catapults. Me and Suron fired about 20 ice balls at the air primal.
You use the balls of ice with a Trebuchet on the Fire Primal.
A Palintone with Ballista bolts has the best results on Air primal, or so the Vnboards claim.

Danita
 
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old.Kerosene

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Just a quick question,

Is there any chance of doing an afternoon raid at least once? I, and I'm sure other people, would love the opportunity to do an FE raid but never can in the evenings at the weekend.

Ta, Kero.
 
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diabien_hib

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Ive told xfear many times sunday afternoons would get a lot more people, because not that many want to waste all saturday night (best night of week) in galla. And sundays, well ppl have to work 5-6am so cant stay until 11pm for raid and hour on lotto.

Afternoon raids get a big thumbs up from me, saturday or sunday either...say like 1pm until 7pm then at least we can still go get pissed, or night of rvr etc whatever :)
 
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finbahr

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Originally posted by diabien_hib
Isay like 1pm until 7pm then at least we can still go get pissed, or night of rvr etc whatever :)


i can go with that \o/
 
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old.Nol

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I given up on RvR raids, because it's pretty much impossible to compete with galla raids, combined with the fact I seem to be opening DF up for a whole bunch of people that are NEVER willing to actually come give us a hand.
 
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old.SOSAGES

Guest
some people would rather spend all week farming for the best drops than play the end game of daoc ...

sad really but each to there own but i do notice that as soon as DF is open all the farmers run to it ...

log ur 50 read the /as and go help take some keeps
 
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Jayce_DA

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Some people have a problem with Xfear's point system, fair enough not everyone will agree on most things.

Would you all agree that without Xfear's point system we would get alot more annoyed people and more arguments and even more private raids ?

So, although the point system is not 100% perfect, it is better then nothing, agree so far ?

If you dont like his point system, fair enough, but please dont be so selfish as to bleet about it without offering something better. If you have a better idea speak it, otherwise shut up, we can all do without pointless bleeting.

FYI: I do not agree with this point system in the main, but I do not have a better offer either. A point limit is a good idea imo, but that will just level the playing field for those who spend lots of time and bring up other issues once people have been on a few.

ANYONE who spends hours and hours and hours being at these raids and not taking items because they are holding out for 1 item, constantly putting time and effort in to help others get the items they want, helping the realm become rich with these items so that we are overall better in PvE/RvR to hold our own with vastly reduced numbers of people who can go forth and protect the realm, deserve to get that 1 item, there will be more, stop crying you selfish people.
 
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enli

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Originally posted by boni_ofdavoid
We had some great distracting on that raid. Realy makes a difference when the NS do their job well. At one point they held the fire primal inplace so well that I got a full negative mailstrom off on it and it dropped from about 40% health to about 10% in about 30 seconds..

Air is much tougher (or resistent to energy) than fire. GTAoE does 100+ to fire, but only around 50ish to air.

Maelstrom roxx ;)
Mine landed also on fire, max hit was near 300
btw are boni and me the only with Maelstrom ?
otherwise voidies realm respec :p

and NS, gratz for this time, only some practise on air ;)

and xfear, this voidie will be there as ya slave ;)
(he has a bind with my name lol)
 

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