TV The World's Best Diet

[DaGaffer]

Anyone see this on C4 last night? Pretty interesting. Main points were; Americans manage to fuck over non-Americans even more than they do it to themselves (Mexico in particular was heartbreaking), and while the obvious best diets were obvious (e.g. Italy, Japan) the winner wasn't what I expected...

Spoiler

Iceland! Despite all the fermented shark's heads

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[megadave]

How have Americans fucked over other countries like Mexico?

 

[Raven]

They eat all the pies leaving none for Mexico. Or without having seen it, probably by driving up the cost of basic food because they eat and waste most of it in the region.

 

[DaGaffer]

How have Americans fucked over other countries like Mexico?

Mexicans had a pretty reasonable diet 20 years ago, then they joined EFTA and were swamped with cheap American sugar products and tons of HFCS which killed a lot of domestic products. Now one in three Mexicans are obese and all the kids are hooked on sugar, particularly soft drinks (they were showing how its very difficult to find cold drinks that aren't Coke/Pepsi etc. even at a dental surgery treating kids with mouths that looked like warzones). The worst diet in the world was the Marshall Islands, where the population were supremely healthy hunter-gatherers 50 years ago then the Americans took the place over for military bases/bomb testing and took away their food supply and replaced it with imported US food. Now everyone is walking hopping around with diabetes and their feet chopped off.

 

[Chilly]

I hear the current generation of American kids are the first in a long time to not be the fattest on record. Ie - the trend is starting to reverse. The problem is, the industry that supplies the sugary products (coke, HFCS etc) is VAST and can bribe/buy it's way into anywhere. They always trot out the old chestnut "but what about the poor farmers????!". Cunts.

 

[Ono]

Doesn't it just highlight that having fish more in a diet is better? I have started eating lots more salad with mackeral and salmon recently and loving it. Gone off diary and most products with high butter content.

 

[Chilly]

Sugar is the killer. Have as much fish, meat, eggs as you like, but once you start overloading on sugars (especially highly refined stuff) things start going drastically wrong. It's way, way harder to over-eat when you're eating calories in their natural densities (eg a slab of meat). You'd find it pretty hard to eat so much steak that you were significantly over your daily calorific requirements. Eat half a cheesecake, though, and you're immediately in shit-town. And don't tell me you couldn't do that in about 2 minutes I'm more and more leaning toward a paleo-style diet where I reduce (not cut out, because I dont want to) foods that are processed and possess higher than naturally occurring densities of sugars.

 

[Chilly]

eg, I had raspberries and cream after the gym today. Plenty of sugar in the berries to make it sweet, putting double cream on anything makes it insta-awesome, but it's only about 15% as insanely sweet and bad for you as cheesecake.

 

[Poag]

Mexicans had a pretty reasonable diet 20 years ago, then they joined EFTA and were swamped with cheap American sugar products and tons of HFCS which killed a lot of domestic products. Now one in three Mexicans are obese and all the kids are hooked on sugar, particularly soft drinks (they were showing how its very difficult to find cold drinks that aren't Coke/Pepsi etc. even at a dental surgery treating kids with mouths that looked like warzones). The worst diet in the world was the Marshall Islands, where the population were supremely healthy hunter-gatherers 50 years ago then the Americans took the place over for military bases/bomb testing and took away their food supply and replaced it with imported US food. Now everyone is walking hopping around with diabetes and their feet chopped off.

Murica!

 

[DaGaffer]

Doesn't it just highlight that having fish more in a diet is better? I have started eating lots more salad with mackeral and salmon recently and loving it. Gone off diary and most products with high butter content.

Fish and lots of greens. South Korea would apparently have had the best diet of all if it wasn't for the fact that they also drink the most spirits per head in the world (even more than the Russians!) which dented their score somewhat.

 

[old.Tohtori]

What's the criteria btw? Current health-science-muguffins or some panel of people who others say know sh*t?

 

[Ch3tan]

Here we go :-(

 

[old.Tohtori]

Just a question

 

[gohan]

He has a point give it 6 months and it will turn out the fish is bad for you because all fish carry guns and shoot you from the inside or some other bullshit.

 

[DaGaffer]

What's the criteria btw? Current health-science-muguffins or some panel of people who others say know sh*t?

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/the-worlds-best-diet/articles/all/how-was-the-list-compiled

 

[Wij]

Soylent Green tbh

 

[Billargh]

I think I love Kate Quilton after watching this.

 

[old.Tohtori]

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/the-worlds-best-diet/articles/all/how-was-the-list-compiled

Ty for the reply, although i would argue that some of the criteria has f*ck all to do with the diet of a certain country, just that there's a buttload not leading the "norm" healthy diet.