The value of life.

[old.Tohtori]

Interesting discussion occured while enjoying a cool pint of refreshing "energy drink", fuel for the fool as it's called sometimes. By me. And noone else...why!?!

*cough*

Anyways, the interesting topic came when discussing the fine value of life. After some discussions like, how much would you kill a man for and would you kill a puppy or a kid, it came to the big question:

Which is more important, the life of a child or the life of a elderly person?

Here's the situation, you have to shoot either a child(let's say age 8 or under), or an elderly person(around 65 or over). Which do you choose to kill?

Some pro's for saving onces life landed in such manner(you can add your own):

Child:

-Whole life ahead.
-Innocence.
-A child(more of a moral issue).

Elderly:

-Lot of knowledge to share.
-Has gained a wealth of life experience.

Answer, discuss, debate. Keep it civil or i'll call Uncle Jupitus

 

[Sparx]

elderly person.

We got too many of em around, can i kill 2?

 

[Alan]

Here's the situation, you have to shoot either a child(let's say age 8 or under), or an elderly person(around 65 or over). Which do you choose to kill?

Neither, I would take my own life over that of murdering another.

 

[Thadius]

The elderly as they are dead soon anyway

 

[Gamah]

Neither, I would take my own life over that of murdering another.

Aw, thats so noble

 

[Samaroon|Terracotta]

Like Thadius said, an elerly. They've lived their life, now it's the kids go

 

[Infanity]

Like Thadius said, an elerly. They've lived their life, now it's the kids go

Ima gonna kill you!

 

[Samaroon|Terracotta]

Ima gonna kill you!

Ban ban omfgz\zzz banbanbanabananbnab

 

[Girafmad]

i cant make up my mind, this situration is so far far fetched from my world...

 

[noblok]

I'm not quite sure. If I knew neither I would probably randomly select one of them. I'd also like to add another point, which is related to the experience of the old man: the child is easier to "replace".

 

[Everz]

ignore

 

[Everz]

Elderly..:england:

 

[Alan]

I know its hypothetical but I cant see how people just jump straight onto the "kill the old man" band wagon.

What if the Kid has a terminal disease ? What if the old guy was a great theorist on the verge of a fantastic discovery.

 

[Gamah]

I know its hypothetical but I cant see how people just jump straight onto the "kill the old man" band wagon.

What if the Kid has a terminal disease ? What if the old guy was a great theorist on the verge of a fantastic discovery.

Wow my words magicly change! and a my warning goes up 1% :<

FH the magical world of miricles!

 

[Samaroon|Terracotta]

I know its hypothetical but I cant see how people just jump straight onto the "kill the old man" band wagon.

What if the Kid has a terminal disease ? What if the old guy was a great theorist on the verge of a fantastic discovery.

Well he didn't say jack shit about the old man being Einstein or the kid having some kind of disease did he? So I'm guessed everyone just thought the kids got a huge life ahead of him, where as the 'old person' is just a coffin dodger

 

[Alan]

Well he didn't say jack shit about the old man being Einstein or the kid having some kind of disease did he? So I'm guessed everyone just thought the kids got a huge life ahead of him, where as the 'old person' is just a coffin dodger

This is my point exactly

He didn't say anything about either the kid having a full life ahead of them or the old man only had 5 years left, people just assumed and made judgment without asking questions

 

[noblok]

Is the value of life measured in it's duration then?

 

[Vladamir]

Aw, thats so noble

He's just doing it for the afterlife rep points!

 

[Gamah]

He's just doing it for the afterlife rep points!

i'll think you'll find I didn't originaly say that :<

 

[Alan]

i'll think you'll find I didn't originaly say that :<

He called me a fanny - so i gave him a 1% warning for 24hrs i'm so evil !

 

[Dorimor1]

Elderly person, as he she has already lead his/her life.

Not a hard poll tbh.

 

[Darzil]

Not sure.

Society would favour the kid, I'm sure. It's why there are lots of Children's charities (bet there are some underprivileged people who wonder what happened when they hit 18 and lose all the help they were getting).

I'd not kill either, as I object to it.

However, if someone else was going to kill one of them, and I was asked which one I'd mourn most (assuming I knew neither, and neither were going to die soon anyway as far as anyone could tell - ie both healthy), probably the old one.

Darzil

 

[Ryuno]

Depends on how/why your being 'forced' to make that decision.

 

[Alan]

Elderly person, as he she has already lead his/her life.

Not a hard poll tbh.

Ask more questions before you blunder in there and potentially kill the wrong one

 

[noblok]

Elderly person, as he she has already lead his/her life.

Not a hard poll tbh.

You don't know that for sure. The kid might have a shorter life ahead of him than the old man.

Why is a life of ~10 years worth less than a life of ~70?

 

[foolou]

How about 'You don't need to force me, I'll kill both' as 4th option?

 

[Ezteq]

i really couldn't care less about the age if having spoken to them one of them is a bit of a blank page (or just not a very nice person.... and yes you can get very unpleasant children i dont care what you say theyre not all sweetness and light, and not all old people are adorable old sweethearts with werthers origional in their pockets either) i'd kill the one who i didn't like



and i'd never kill a puppy.









[this is a hypothetical reply, i havent actually killed anyone so dont mither me]

 

[noblok]

Another thing: if you got asked to kill one of two kids and you're informed A is born a second earlier than B, would you shoot B based on the argument that he's older? Unlikely, the line you draw is arbitrary. After all, if one second doesn't matter, than why should another second (2s total)? And so on untill you get to 60 years difference in age.

I'm not saying you can't take age into account though. You can and maybe you should, but it has only a symbolic value. It's not a relevant quality.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Allrighty, noblok made a lovely suggestion in private (yeah i love you too *lol*):

If you don't kill either, and choose not to choose, you get popped.

But, i find this to be a rather easy choice for most.

So, for the sake of argumenting and discussion:

If you kill the kid, the old man(or woman) lives.

If you kill the old man(or woman), the kid lives.

If you choose not to kill either, they shoot both and give you a sympathy bullet.

You don't know either and haven't talked to either one or know anything about them.

About why it's forced, well, let's say Jack BAuer f*cked up this one, The Hoff was busy waxing his car, Mr T is on Aruba and doesn't have a cellphone and Chuck Norris is beating up the rest of the world saviors for practise.

(Is resetting a poll a possibility? *looks at Tears with weird Seal Eyes*)

 

[Mikah75]

elderly in a flash :|!
too many of them around already... don't wanna end up like Italy now do we
and we're the ones who are or who are gonna have to be paying for their lives which will be alot, as they jsut wont die and the baby boomers are creeping into that category