Question the use of 'grand'

[Urgluf]

hey! When I living in Ireland for 6 months the irish were using 'grand' in so many different ways.

Now I've been writing to an Australian girl for ages and I noticed that I always use the same vocabulary, so I've been reading books and other things in english to improve..

My question to you! In what way can you use 'grand'? Is it possible to use grand instead of awesome, thats great etc?

It's awesome that you did xxx
or it's grand that you did xxx

hmm

 

[Urgluf]

I hope that the OT-crew can help me out..

perhaps I should have put 'football' tags, to get more views

 

[old.Tohtori]

I don't think i'd use grand, except if i meant the US slang "a grand"(which i always forget if it's a k or t).

Grand seems like a shorter version of some word and sounds very, well...just doesn't fit my language

But if i did use it, i'd rate grand better then good, but less then fantastic.

Casually excellent?

 

[Mey]

The thing with grand is it can mean so much, it all depands in the context.

"expansive: of behavior that is impressive and ambitious in scale or scope; "an expansive lifestyle"; "in the grand manner"; "collecting on a grand ...
august: of or befitting a lord; "heir to a lordly fortune"; "of august lineage"
deluxe: rich and superior in quality; "a princely sum"; "gilded dining rooms"
fantastic: extraordinarily good or great ; used especially as intensifiers; "a fantastic trip to the Orient"; "the film was fantastic!"; "a howling success"; "a marvelous collection of rare books"; "had a rattling conversation about politics"; "a tremendous achievement"
exalted: of high moral or intellectual value; elevated in nature or style; "an exalted ideal"; "argue in terms of high-flown ideals"- Oliver Franks; "a noble and lofty concept"; "a grand purpose"
large and impressive in physical size or extent; "the bridge is a grand structure"
thousand: the cardinal number that is the product of 10 and 100
the most important and magnificent in adornment; "grand ballroom"; "grand staircase"
grand piano: a piano with the strings on a horizontal harp-shaped frame; usually supported by three legs
distinguished: used of a person's appearance or behavior; befitting an eminent person; "his distinguished bearing"; "the monarch's imposing presence"; "she reigned in magisterial beauty""

It could also mean a money value. (E.g. £3000 would be Three Grand.)

 

[Mey]

I don't think i'd use grand, except if i meant the US slang "a grand"(which i always forget if it's a k or t).

Grand seems like a shorter version of some word and sounds very, well...just doesn't fit my language

But if i did use it, i'd rate grand better then good, but less then fantastic.

Casually excellent?

You mean Grandeur, right?

 

[old.Tohtori]

And now that mey posted that, remembered that i just used it in "the grand scheme of things"

sneaky word that.

 

[Mey]

Ye it really is quite a grand word!

 

[Cadelin]

Women are like pianos, if they're not upright, they're grand!

 

[old.Tohtori]

You mean Grandeur, right?

That actually might be it, grand advice man!

 

[Urgluf]

fuckers, now I'm all confused.

thx guys

 

[Ezteq]

ways in which I use the word grand

Great = as in wow thats a grand building, the grand old Duke of York

Good = that would be grand

£1000 = is usually referred to in English as a grand

 

[Ch3tan]

If you are going to use Irish slang, then it's much cooler to use "craic"

 

[kiliarien]

The use of the word grand in Ireland is actually a positive affirmation that, as Mey points out is contextual.

The formal english use of the word makes it an adjective or verb, as it describes objects or actions, i.e a grand building (talking about size or elaborate nature) or a grand motion (acting in either a dramatic or overly large manner, such as the grand sweep of a baton by a conductor). This isn't the way you are using it.

The Irish context of using grand is as I say just a way of basically affirming the positive inflection on a subject matter and denotes the level of quality that they infer on it. Here are a few examples:

"How are you doing?" To which the reply might be "I'm grand"

"We're going out tonight, fancy coming along?" To which the reply might be "Yeah, that would be grand"

Or as a statement "That's a grand looking animal" (Bestality aside!) This last statement is not talking about size of said animal, but to the quality of that person's perspective.

In all three examples, the speaker of the word is affirming their positive attitude towards either a question or subject. The amount of quality (as in, is grand better than good etc.) is a semantic argument that the word is not being used to convey, purely the positive nature or approval of something/someone/some action.

These affirmations are used the world over - for example Aussies/Americans like to say 'awesome', the Welsh use the phrase 'tidy' as a someone understated but similar example.

Oh and the use of 'craic' really is just talking about an interesting or exciting venture, you can't use it in the same context or across a range of them really.

Maybe I'm just confsuing the matter....

 

[Cerb]

Haha awww damn i got here late and here was one thread where being irish was actully going to give me a helpfull contribution....way to steal my thungder Kil you prick! <3

but yeah mostly what he said

About craic tho...it can actully be used in a few different contexts Kil

Theres the obvious Craic - fun "Man the pub was great craic lasnight"

It can sometimes mean news or something new "Any craic with you man?" "no man same old shite"

It can be if someone is wise to whats going on or clever "Dont worry he knows the craic"

Im sure there are one or 2 more but cant think of them right now.

 

[kiliarien]

Haha awww damn i got here late and here was one thread where being irish was actully going to give me a helpfull contribution....way to steal my thungder Kil you prick! <3

but yeah mostly what he said

About craic tho...it can actully be used in a few different contexts Kil

Theres the obvious Craic - fun "Man the pub was great craic lasnight"

It can sometimes mean news or something new "Any craic with you man?" "no man same old shite"

It can be if someone is wise to whats going on or clever "Dont worry he knows the craic"

Im sure there are one or 2 more but cant think of them right now.

Hehe Cerb, you snooze you lose!! Bira p00ns all.

The contexts are still the same for craic - your examples are the same as what I said, for example saying "Any craic with you man?" As in "Anything fun/exciting going on?" to which there is a negative reply in this case, is investigating a venture. It's the same with the other example, "knowing the craic" is being involved or having knowledge of a venture, no matter how trivial.

 

[Cerb]

Hehe Cerb, you snooze you lose!! Bira p00ns all.

The contexts are still the same for craic - your examples are the same as what I said, for example saying "Any craic with you man?" As in "Anything fun/exciting going on?" to which there is a negative reply in this case, is investigating a venture. It's the same with the other example, "knowing the craic" is being involved or having knowledge of a venture, no matter how trivial.

C*nthooks...the man comes here for like 2 weeks and knows fucking everything damn teachers! <3

 

[Bugz]

It's people like Kill that make me enjoy when a teacher is wrong because it's the ultimate fuckin opportunity to be able to point out their wrong. Some know way too much!

P.s that may have come across in a negative way - not how i intended! :d

 

[kiliarien]

C*nthooks...the man comes here for like 2 weeks and knows fucking everything damn teachers! <3

Lol Cerb. You obviously didn't realise my family is from Mayo and am in Ireland all the time....

It's people like Kill that make me enjoy when a teacher is wrong because it's the ultimate fuckin opportunity to be able to point out their wrong. Some know way too much!

I can be wrong. I'm not perfect.......I'm just so fooking close nobody notices the difference.

(only j/k)

 

[Cerb]

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh that explains things!

 

[Urgluf]

hehe thanks guys.

 

[old.Tohtori]

While you're here Urgluf, take off that damn santamas hat! :lol:

 

[Urgluf]

ok toht.. but only because its you!

 

[Urgluf]

I hope you like it .. its bad quality but hey.. I don't care

 

[Calaen]

My wife is is Irish ad I find myself using the word alot especially after being over there with all of her family.

 

[Amanita]

I hear "that's grand" up 'ere in Yorkshire.

 

[old.Tohtori]

I hope you like it .. its bad quality but hey.. I don't care

That's better, though not as blowjob begging.

Now i can't recognize you

 

[Bahumat]

Alot of people in england say "that car costs a grand" instead of "that car costs 1,000 pound".

I've noticed irish people say "ahh that's grand" meaning "ahh thats great".

 

[TheBinarySurfer]

Now I've been writing to an Australian girl for ages

I'm not sure you can fit 'grand' into a sentance with a girl you're trying to seduce all that often!

 

[TheBinarySurfer]

I hear "that's grand" up 'ere in Yorkshire.

Filthy Northern Monkeh. Go back to your cave! (I would say kitchen sink, but they are luxury items once you go North of Birmingham - true story!)

 

[Commandment]

That's grand

Evan did u not meet bira when he came to Galway?