The Template Thread

[LordjOX]

You could also consider swapping JC for something else unless you need +range out of it (cba to check again).

Sash is pretty much a must in healer templates, the 10% of siphon makes quite the difference

 

[eSo]

Sash is pretty much a must in healer templates, the 10% of siphon makes quite the difference

I fail to see how 10% chance of not using any power when doing 1 spell makes an item a musthave, especially nowadays when you have atleast 2-3 MCL's in a template. But /shrug, can't cater all tastes. Still, I'm sure there are ways to improve that template I pointed to even if Sash is innit.

 

[Preatoria]

less whining about that... more making a template for sm with ml10 vest yarrr ! haha. I do feel Sash as being a little bit out dated now a days ... You have plenty of other toys that can compensate sash...

 

[Raven]

Astral Hauberk and Cloak Weaponless Champion Template -- Dark Age of Camelot: Labyrinth of the Minotaur Vault

Nvm

Mine is far better than that. Will PM it to you when I get home tonight.

 

[LordjOX]

I fail to see how 10% chance of not using any power when doing 1 spell makes an item a musthave, especially nowadays when you have atleast 2-3 MCL's in a template. But /shrug, can't cater all tastes. Still, I'm sure there are ways to improve that template I pointed to even if Sash is innit.

With my 28%pp druid template I have about 680 power. Assume only healing, on average each spell cost 52power. Medium heal, greater heal and spread

That means that every 10th cast on average, will save 7% if your total power. or 0.7% power per any cast. It is especially noticeable on spreads and greater heals since they cost the most power ofc

Or you can simply break it down and say since 10% of the spells cost nothing, you will save 10% power on average after using an entire power bar. It would be equivalent of a 40%pp template instead. So basically dropping sash, replacing with a higher util item you would have to find an item worth 12% power pool + utility to make up for the deficit in just sheer power.

And then you compound this over a typical fight.

Also note that most druids typically have 50% power charge on weapon+shield atleast. But they are on 15min timers.

 

[Preatoria]

Mine is far better than that. Will PM it to you when I get home tonight.

Thanks in advance,

I must warn you though... I only have the vest no cloack or whatever

 

[eSo]

With my 28%pp

Isn't that quite low for up-to date temp? Oh well

Or you can simply break it down and say since 10% of the spells cost nothing

You know that's not right - If you have a 10% chance to not lose any power when casting a spell, it doesn't mean that you don't lose power every 10th spell.

So basically dropping sash, replacing with a higher util item you would have to find an item worth 12% power pool + utility to make up for the deficit in just sheer power.

/Present 12% power pool belt

Also note that most druids typically have 50% power charge on weapon+shield atleast. But they are on 15min timers.

On separate timers though. Plus then there are potions and crystals (also on separate timers).

But in the end, I agree with you. Sash can be handy. Plus it also has MCL (though it's only 25%). I believe it is much easier to make a better template with that extra 12% power pool than a template that has sash innit. But we all know it isn't that black and white Plus, TOYS ARE NICE

 

[LordjOX]

These days you have to dig quite hard to find good high power pool templates without egg-sash-croc-zo' that don't have resist holes or other serious deficits

You know that's not right - If you have a 10% chance to not lose any power when casting a spell, it doesn't mean that you don't lose power every 10th spell.

On average, yes you do

The /use2 on sash doesn't work for druids, but that's beside the point

 

[eSo]

These days you have to dig quite hard to find good high power pool templates without egg-sash-croc-zo' that don't have resist holes or other serious deficits
The /use2 on sash doesn't work for druids, but that's beside the point

We're a bit off-topic now, but did you really mean without those artifacts? I mean it's hard to imagine that they would have stats that are hard to replace. /uses are a different thing ofc.

So /use2 (25% group mcl) really only works on eld/ment/bain/chanter and /use (25 % hp heal) on rest of the classes? Or is there a class that can use both?

EDIT: Oh forgot the range bonus on those arties. I guess that's the only thing in a druid template that might be hard to find somewhere else.

 

[LordjOX]

Of course I meant with, but bad english

 

[BloodOmen]

got 20% siphon on my bot and I rarely ever use mcl charges or drop below 70% power with greater power myth and thats with heal spam/spread heal whoring in short siphon = rocks (my bot has 31% pp just for the record)

 

[Huntingtons]

I'm pretty sure I could do better than the one you posted. For example, swap the Warshadow bracer for Springtime Folly one and there are better options for the Qeben ring. Just for starters.

I also agree that few hitpoints don't matter, especially if you have CoZ+CTR combo. You could also consider swapping JC for something else unless you need +range out of it (cba to check again).

i double dare you to try. Springtime folly, sure would be nice but you have to consider alot of things.
Example:
I swap Bracer with springtime folly but it overcaps con by 11 pts so that wastes utl. It also has spirit resists which will then hit cap but i would then have to find 5 body resists in SC and id rather lack 6% spirit and still have 25% than 5 body.

Ml10 legs + Coz only leaves 3 slots left to SC and without Egg you will have to get ML10 legs or drop Qebes ring and get Construct forged, then SC heal bonus that will then overcap and find more dex cap which also will overcap and therefore waste utl.
I could easily drop Qebes ring but then powerpool would be 25% and that would be too low for me. Suggest me any change and i can explain why i havnt used that particular item (cept uber-rogs obviously). As i said, Its the best CoZ BoZ AT JC template outthere (probably the only one as well)

 

[Bahumat]

The ultimate Hunter template!

<-- Stats -->
Strength : 73 / 90
Quickness : 42 / 75
Hit Points : 280 / 365

Heat Resist : 20 / 26
Cold Resist : 21 / 26
Matter Resist : 17 / 26
Energy Resist : 22 / 31
Body Resist : 21 / 26
Spirit Resist : 20 / 26

<-- ToA Bonuses -->
Melee Speed : 5 / 10
Melee Damage : 4 / 10
Style Damage : 6 / 10
Archery/Spell Speed : 7 / 10
Archery/Spell Damage : 6 / 10
Archery/Spell Range : 3 / 10
Spell Pierce : 5 / 10
Armor Factor : 35 / 50

Take it this is a joke yeh?

 

[CorNokZ]

lol I was thinking the same Bahu! Wouldnt even have been accepted back when toa first came out

 

[Raven]

You accept it from anyone.

 

[CorNokZ]

 

[eSo]

Suggest me any change and i can explain why i havnt used that particular item (cept uber-rogs obviously). As i said, Its the best CoZ BoZ AT JC template outthere (probably the only one as well)

Let's make a bet or something that I can make a better one, some sweet amount of plats or something like that, growing my non-existant epeen is not motivational enough

Btw cba to double check but surely you have CTR also in that temp? CoZ+CTR makes hellofa combo.

EDIT: also kinda ironic that you meantion 11 points of con being "wasted util" but still you have 3 all melee skills in ftw

 

[Huntingtons]

Let's make a bet or something that I can make a better one, some sweet amount of plats or something like that, growing my non-existant epeen is not motivational enough

Btw cba to double check but surely you have CTR also in that temp? CoZ+CTR makes hellofa combo.

EDIT: also kinda ironic that you meantion 11 points of con being "wasted util" but still you have 3 all melee skills in ftw

forgot about CTR yes its there. We can bet 100p that you cannot make a better one than this one, but i will require you to dish up 100p if it does not succeed?

What it must require is this: AT, CTR, JC, BoZ and CoZ. And a minimum all stats higher. (89 con, 101 dex, 96 acu, 336 hp 25 26 23 25 25 21 21 26 25 celt racials 29% pp 10/10 spd/range 25% buff/heal).

 

[Huntingtons]

/edit (had to restart router)

reply to me latest at 18 cet to accept challenge and specify any terms you like to dicuss.

 

[CorNokZ]

lol Hunt just went into Beast-mode

 

[Cemeterygates]

forgot about CTR yes its there. We can bet 100p that you cannot make a better one than this one, but i will require you to dish up 100p if it does not succeed?

What it must require is this: AT, CTR, JC, BoZ and CoZ. And a minimum all stats higher. (89 con, 101 dex, 96 acu, 336 hp 25 26 23 25 25 21 21 26 25 celt racials 29% pp 10/10 spd/range 25% buff/heal).

You say all stats must be higher, yet it has 101 dex, so right there it is not possible, you could be using that as some kind of cunning ploy so he can't win, or i'm just being a dick......:lol:

 

[CorNokZ]

You are being a dick

 

[Huntingtons]

greater myth of dex! or just all execpt the capped ones

 

[eSo]

Huntingtons, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it a better template if I would improve just 1 of the stats (assuming rest are the same or above) ?


I'll play around some if it's quiet at work some day. Didn't mean to upset you, was just trying to help more like Let's agree that your temp remains da best evah (that includes those arties).
I'll let you know as soon as I find the time and motivation to load up the calc once again I have few ideas I want to try atleast. You being so sure, I assume you have put so many hours into it that not sure if I even cba

 

[Bahumat]

Huntingtons, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it a better template if I would improve just 1 of the stats (assuming rest are the same or above) ?


I'll play around some if it's quiet at work some day. Didn't mean to upset you, was just trying to help more like Let's agree that your temp remains da best evah (that includes those arties).
I'll let you know as soon as I find the time and motivation to load up the calc once again I have few ideas I want to try atleast. You being so sure, I assume you have put so many hours into it that not sure if I even cba

i smell chicken and waffles

 

[Preatoria]

Instead of gimping around and chatting here you should all try to make a good sm template with the ml10 bp

 

[eSo]

i smell chicken and waffles

Yeah it's cooking, with a quick spin I did on my lunch break I see this template in a new light, and gotta admit the most of the items are pretty bound to it. I wasn't able to do any significant improvements.

Well done Huntingtons.:worthy:

Until we find a new piece to the puzzle...

Instead of gimping around and chatting here you should all try to make a good sm template with the ml10 bp

Have you tried doing one or are you just waiting for some1 to do one for you? Shouldn't be biggie that one. There are also plenty on vnboards.

 

[LordjOX]

Well done Huntingtons.:worthy:

Until we find a new piece to the puzzle...
.

Pay up

 

[eSo]

Pay up

If I actually had accepted the bet you think I would already stop trying?)

PS: Even if I could be arsed to walk the walk, proper terms should take place!

And damn I gotta change my avatar. It's from 1984 or so.

 

[Jugvayne]

Well I finally made a template for my wiz that I'm gonna stick to. Yes I know it's missing 1% cast speed and that a few of the resists are a bit gimped but it's not toooooooo bad, and relatively cheap, esp with the sidi changes this patch:

Config Report

Stats
------------------------------------------------------------------------
  STR:  0  / 75      INT:  108  / 100  (+25)    Hits:  388  / 400  (+200)    AF:  18  /  50    
  CON:  75  / 75      PIE:  0  / 75      End:  0  / 25    
  DEX:  102  / 101  (+28)    EMP:  0  / 75      Pow:  0  / 41  (+15)  
  QUI:  0  / 75      CHA:  0  / 75      %PP:  32%  / 40%  (+15)  

Resists
------------------------------------------------------------------------
  Body:  24  / 26      Energy:  23  / 26      Crush:  24  / 26  (+2)  
  Cold:  24  / 26      Matter:  17  / 26      Slash:  19  / 26  (+3)  
  Heat:  23  / 26      Spirit:  20  / 26  (+5)    Thrust:  26  / 26    
  Essence:  0  / 26    

Skills
------------------------------------------------------------------------
  11  / 11  All Magic Skills
  11  / 11  Cold Magic
  11  / 11  Earth Magic
  11  / 11  Fire Magic

Focus
------------------------------------------------------------------------
  50  / 50  All Spell Lines
  50  / 50  Cold Magic
  50  / 50  Earth Magic
  50  / 50  Fire Magic

Other Bonuses
------------------------------------------------------------------------
  20  / 10  Arcane Siphon
  9  / 10  Archery and Casting Speed
  10  / 10  Archery and Spell Damage
  13  / 10  Archery and Spell Range
  6  / 25  Duration of Spells
  10  / 10  Spell Piercing
  11  / 25  Stat Buff Effectiveness

Piece Listing
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Chest
Name: Sanguine Silk Robe
Level: 51 Quality: 100 AF/DPS: 51 Bonus: 35
  Slot 1:  24  Dexterity
  Slot 2:  4  All Magic Skills
  Slot 3:  60  Hits
  Slot 4:  1  Crush Resist
  Slot 5:  1  Slash Resist
  Slot 6:  1  Thrust Resist
  Slot 7:  60  Hits Cap Increase
  Slot 8:  8  Dexterity Cap Increase
  Slot 9:  4  Spell Damage
  Slot 10:  4  Spell Range
Utility: 57.0


Arms
Name: Sigil Stitched Cloth Sleeves
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 Overcharge: 5.5
  Gem 1:  25  Constitution - Flawless Earthen Essence Jewel
  Gem 2:  52  Hits - Faceted Blood Essence Jewel
  Gem 3:  9  Thrust Resist - Polished Airy Shielding Jewel
  Gem 4:  7  Crush Resist - Imperfect Fiery Shielding Jewel
  Slot 5:  40  Hits Cap Increase - (Crafted Item Bonus)
Utility: 61.7 SC Cost: 52g 8s 60c SC Price: 52g 8s 60c


Head
Name: Dragonsworn Stitched Cloth Cap
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 Overcharge: 5.5
  Gem 1:  28  Constitution - Perfect Earthen Essence Jewel
  Gem 2:  52  Hits - Faceted Blood Essence Jewel
  Gem 3:  7  Energy Resist - Imperfect Light Shielding Jewel
  Gem 4:  7  Body Resist - Imperfect Dusty Shielding Jewel
  Slot 5:  15  Acuity - (Crafted Item Bonus)
Utility: 69.7 SC Cost: 51g 5s 40c SC Price: 51g 5s 40c


Legs
Name: Sigil Stitched Cloth Leggings
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Imbue Points: 36.0 of 32 Overcharge: 4
  Gem 1:  9  Slash Resist - Polished Watery Shielding Jewel
  Gem 2:  9  Cold Resist - Polished Icy Shielding Jewel
  Gem 3:  7  Crush Resist - Imperfect Fiery Shielding Jewel
  Gem 4:  7  Thrust Resist - Imperfect Airy Shielding Jewel
  Slot 5:  5  % Power Pool - (Crafted Item Bonus)
Utility: 64.0 SC Cost: 25g 92s 40c SC Price: 25g 92s 40c


Hands
Name: Maddening Scalars
Level: 51 Quality: 99
  Slot 1:  40  Hits
  Slot 2:  15  Dexterity
  Slot 3:  15  Acuity
  Slot 4:  6  % Power Pool
  Slot 5:  3  Casting Speed
  Slot 6:  5  Dexterity Cap Increase
  Slot 7:  5  Acuity Cap Increase
Utility: 30.0


Feet
Name: Dragonsworn Stitched Cloth Boots
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 Overcharge: 5.5
  Gem 1:  44  Hits - Polished Blood Essence Jewel
  Gem 2:  11  Energy Resist - Faceted Light Shielding Jewel
  Gem 3:  7  Heat Resist - Imperfect Heated Shielding Jewel
  Gem 4:  7  Body Resist - Imperfect Dusty Shielding Jewel
  Slot 5:  15  Dexterity - (Crafted Item Bonus)
Utility: 71.0 SC Cost: 30g 30s 20c SC Price: 30g 30s 20c


2 Handed
Name: Staff of Perfect Incantation
Level: 51 Quality: 99
  Slot 1:  15  Dexterity
  Slot 2:  5  % Power Pool
  Slot 3:  1  Heat Resist
  Slot 4:  1  Matter Resist
  Slot 5:  50  All Spell Lines
  Slot 6:  10  Dexterity Cap Increase
  Slot 7:  10  Acuity Cap Increase
  Slot 8:  10  Arcane Siphon
  Slot 9:  5  Power Cap Increase
  Slot 10:  4  Spell Damage
Utility: 15.0


Neck
Name: Legendary Medal of Honour
Level: 51 Quality: 99
  Slot 1:  5  Crush Resist
  Slot 2:  5  Slash Resist
  Slot 3:  5  Thrust Resist
  Slot 4:  5  Cold Resist
  Slot 5:  5  Heat Resist
  Slot 6:  5  Body Resist
  Slot 7:  5  Energy Resist
  Slot 8:  5  Spirit Resist
  Slot 9:  5  Matter Resist
Utility: 90.0


Cloak
Name: Cloudsong
Level: 51 Quality: 99
  Slot 1:  5  % Power Pool
  Slot 2:  12  Acuity
  Slot 3:  5  Acuity Cap Increase
  Slot 4:  5  Casting Speed
  Slot 5:  5  Stat Buff Effectiveness
  Slot 6:  8  AF
  Slot 7:  5  Power Cap Increase
Utility: 8.0


Jewel
Name: Tablet of Atlantis
Level: 51 Quality: 99
  Slot 1:  15  Acuity
  Slot 2:  3  All Magic Skills
  Slot 3:  40  Hits
  Slot 4:  10  AF
  Slot 5:  5  Spell Piercing
Utility: 35.0


Belt
Name: Jacina's Sash
Level: 51 Quality: 99
  Slot 1:  6  Duration of Spells
  Slot 2:  6  Stat Buff Effectiveness
  Slot 3:  5  % Power Pool
  Slot 4:  5  Power Cap Increase
  Slot 5:  10  Arcane Siphon
  Slot 6:  5  Spell Range
  Slot 7:  5  Spell Piercing
Utility: 0.0


Left Ring
Name: Ring of Arcane Gestures
Level: 51 Quality: 99
  Slot 1:  15  Dexterity
  Slot 2:  15  Acuity
  Slot 3:  50  Hits
  Slot 4:  4  Heat Resist
  Slot 5:  4  Cold Resist
  Slot 6:  4  Spirit Resist
  Slot 7:  5  Dexterity Cap Increase
  Slot 8:  5  Acuity Cap Increase
  Slot 9:  50  Hits Cap Increase
  Slot 10:  2  Spell Damage
Utility: 56.5


Right Ring
Name: Tock
Level: 51 Quality: 99
  Slot 1:  18  Dexterity
  Slot 2:  4  Crush Resist
  Slot 3:  4  Slash Resist
  Slot 4:  4  Thrust Resist
  Slot 5:  4  All Magic Skills
  Slot 6:  18  Acuity
  Slot 7:  1  Casting Speed
Utility: 68.0


Left Wrist
Name: Bracelet of Springtime Folly
Level: 51 Quality: 99
  Slot 1:  6  Heat Resist
  Slot 2:  6  Matter Resist
  Slot 3:  6  Spirit Resist
  Slot 4:  6  Cold Resist
  Slot 5:  22  Constitution
  Slot 6:  50  Hits
  Slot 7:  50  Hits Cap Increase
Utility: 75.2


Right Wrist
Name: Bracelet of Zo'Arkat
Level: 51 Quality: 99
  Slot 1:  18  Acuity
  Slot 2:  5  Matter Resist
  Slot 3:  5  Body Resist
  Slot 4:  5  Spirit Resist
  Slot 5:  6  % Power Pool
  Slot 6:  4  Spell Range
Utility: 42.0