The tale of the intelligent tank

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lofff

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Originally posted by old.Odysseus
air nukes > hib tanks (altho i got a bit worried today when nuking Wuren for some 2K and him still being at 10% - without anyone healing him of what I could see - used IP ofc)

he prolly did not used ip, mb fa

f he was fully buffed he might have around 2k-2.2k hp.
 
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Wuren

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Originally posted by old.krane
3 Secs is still enough for our nice theurgs to get away a bit from those stuuuuuuuuupid heros (yeah u heard me wuren ;-)...

And it only needs mana...slam EATS end up very fast..

Havent helped u so far?

And use a small shield, the end usage aint so bad.
 
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Novamir

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from my own testing, shield slam interval on shield goes 2.6 sec small -> 4.2 sec heater, but end usage is no difference.
 
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Danya

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Originally posted by old.Odysseus
air nukes > hib tanks (altho i got a bit worried today when nuking Wuren for some 2K and him still being at 10% - without anyone healing him of what I could see - used IP ofc)
Any nukes > tanks. :p
Spirit isn't that good a resist vs any hib group with a warden as they will have at least 16% buff if not the 24%. Fire on the other hand is a druid buff which tend to be lower. Though items will be higher. Also if a lot of theurgs spec air then people will stock up on spirit for the nuke resistance. :p
 
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old.Filip

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1 thing is forgotten here i think..

the tanks who changes guard acording to who got agro..
this is normally very hard to tell in the heat of battle.
But i know aikmore does it.. and i think more ss tanks should give it a thougth
 
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--Eraser--

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Originally posted by old.Odysseus
I WANT A SLAMBOT!!!!


yeah thsat would be cool! :clap:

i love having a s/s armsman beside me...
...greetings to tempy, old boy, please try to overcome your temptation to charge behind an escaping tank leaving me allone a bit more often :twak:
 
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old.Odysseus

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he prolly did not used ip, mb fa

f he was fully buffed he might have around 2k-2.2k hp.

3-4 tanks where hacking at him while I nuked him. He used IP allright. Saw him go to 10-15% - then back up to 100%, then back down to 10% at which time some blademaster carved me up.
 
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Eleasias

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Originally posted by old.Odysseus


3-4 tanks where hacking at him while I nuked him. He used IP allright. Saw him go to 10-15% - then back up to 100%, then back down to 10% at which time some blademaster carved me up.
Then why did you make it sound like you were doing it all alone? There's nothing more annoying than "OMG I killed him!" and then forgetting to say there was 4 other people beating the guy ... good example from a several months ago is actually Alpha, there was 4 or 5 albs, me and 2 other hibs ... I had 2 scouts shooting me, Alpha hitting me and the 2 other albs hitting the other hibs... we die but take down a few albs and a while later... someone PM's me *in game* saying "lol alpha said he killed you again" when Alpha actually did less than 50% of the total damage to me .. :p
 
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old.krane

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Originally posted by Eleasias
Then why did you make it sound like you were doing it all alone? There's nothing more annoying than "OMG I killed him!" and then forgetting to say there was 4 other people beating the guy ... good example from a several months ago is actually Alpha, there was 4 or 5 albs, me and 2 other hibs ... I had 2 scouts shooting me, Alpha hitting me and the 2 other albs hitting the other hibs... we die but take down a few albs and a while later... someone PM's me *in game* saying "lol alpha said he killed you again" when Alpha actually did less than 50% of the total damage to me .. :p


LMAO! And u say that elesias, the guy who does nothing else but runs around with uber buffs from a buffbot in an uber group with 6 sec pbt and grou purge..

Wake up man...and stop throwing crap on the best mincer of a gimped realm..

kthnxbye
 
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Pin

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Originally posted by Danyan
That assumes most tanks have determination 4 or 5, I don't think all that many have above 3 tbh.

Body resists count against casted stuns, so Det 3 and 25% body resists reduces a 6 second stun to 2.475.

If tank is in group he'll likely have a body resist buff up, giving more like 50% body resist which means 1.65 seconds.

Some groups will also be running with a body resist chant on (most alb groups with a pally in seem to do this) so a 6 second stun will be down to ~1 second in some cases.

Slam will still be at 9.
 
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Eleasias

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Originally posted by old.krane
buffs from a buffbot in an uber
If you repeat a lie enough times does it become truth in Albion? Only "well known" buffbot in Hibernia is Druidna, which is Tdaer's. Hardly my fault our guild druid has specced heals and buffs instead of nature ^_^
 
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Eleasias

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Originally posted by old.krane



in an uber group with 6 sec pbt and grou purge..

I take that as a compliment btw, in short, LA > you :p
 
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Danya

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Originally posted by Pin


Body resists count against casted stuns, so Det 3 and 25% body resists reduces a 6 second stun to 2.475.

If tank is in group he'll likely have a body resist buff up, giving more like 50% body resist which means 1.65 seconds.

Some groups will also be running with a body resist chant on (most alb groups with a pally in seem to do this) so a 6 second stun will be down to ~1 second in some cases.

Slam will still be at 9.
Nice theory, but determination does NOT stack with resists (I seem to say this a lot lately). So det 3 and 25% body is 3.3 sec stun. 50% body is 3 sec stun. With resist chant it's still about 2-2.5 secs, though that's hardly relevant as how many of a minstrel's target's are grouped with a paladin? Resist chants on mid / hib are skald and bard, they are more than likely going to be running speed. Additionally, the cleric stun isn't body reesist so that again blows your calculations out the window.
 
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PJS

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Wake up man...and stop throwing crap on the best mincer of a gimped realm..

That would be someone playing an unbuffboted minstrel well, not Alpha.
 
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Pin

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Originally posted by Danyan

Nice theory, but determination does NOT stack with resists (I seem to say this a lot lately). So det 3 and 25% body is 3.3 sec stun. 50% body is 3 sec stun. With resist chant it's still about 2-2.5 secs, though that's hardly relevant as how many of a minstrel's target's are grouped with a paladin? Resist chants on mid / hib are skald and bard, they are more than likely going to be running speed. Additionally, the cleric stun isn't body reesist so that again blows your calculations out the window.

Happen to have a link to something confirming this?

As for clerics' stun. Well yeah, we all know what kind of spirit resists groups run with.

Bards and skalds running speed? If they are still running speed once the group is in combat, then they are quite foolish (true that most will switch to spirit rather than body though).
 
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Danya

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No, bards will switch to end (expect to see palas doing this too once they can), skalds will switch to damage (or maybe a resist). Hibs never have resist chants running. :p
 
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Danya

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Can't think of any time the bard has run a resist instead of endurance or speed... Hibs do tend to have a lot of resist buffs on the other hand.
 
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lofff

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wasnt this a nice post bout lukas skill? why u all crapping this with silly resist-arguing?









cunts.
 
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cougar-

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lukas was one of few orange albs back in the good old days, and finsters henchmen when he was on the darkside. kewl that one of few oldschool albs r back.
 

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