The reason AoD 'fullgroup' rocks and Prydwen sucks !

[Simba]

One more thing.
Have anyone wondered _why_ are so many alb stealthers out?

Becase mostly built rvr grps out at rvr. Maelstrom, AoD, PE, hibs are running in a high rr grp when they out.

Now lets take only a level50 rr3-rr5 player wich in a mostyle PvE guild not hardcore RvR if they make a grp from 8 players like this they die on the first rr7+ grp wich playing with each other since months now, and useing teamspeak, they have more experinence. And these random albs grps run out only 2-3 times and then they all disband and goes leveling their stealther alts.
And if they make a bigger zerg that also results whine
And if they go out to frontier to take keeps back that also ends badly most times. I saw many times 30-40 alb deathspams by 8-12 mids. And if you really think inside of this noone is really responsible.
Not the hard rvr grps becase they just like to play with each other.
Not the albs who die allwayas in random grps becase they dont have much chance.
But in a long time this will result more stealthers and not just from the alb side.
And thrust me its _really much better_ to play with a stealther class, then to go out with a random grp.

 

[Straef]

As I see it, most the random stealthers are people that cba spending enough time/effort on a non-stealth char to get a decent rr and run opted groups, thus not doing well, and ending up playing stealthers cuz they're easier ~

 

[Roadie]

ffs if you hate stealth adds this badly then go odins/hw and sit about and w8 for fights. The more ppl who go there the better the rvr is, the more spread out the stealthers will be so they will be less of a "problem".

Also wtf is the whine about adds? when im in a fg and we are fighting and we get added on we dont cry about it! We either change zone or just come back and hope we can catch them seperatly next time. Had a fight 2day where we were fighting 1fg and we were on the edge of winning but a 2nd group added and we lost, imo it wass a fun fight and we were just a bit unlucky, it wasnt the cause of sleepless nights. If the only way you can get any enjoyment from this game is a 8:8 or a 1:1 then you should quit

 

[Belisar]

I have to add that we getting zerged every day in the 90% of battles by mids or hib fgs who running with 13-15ppl or more. nuff said

LMAO when I read this.

Hib zerg lmao - you living in dreamland :kissit:

 

[Roadie]

he is? christ i must be imagining things :<

 

[Uberlama]

LMAO when I read this.

Hib zerg lmao - you living in dreamland :kissit:

did i say anywhere hib zerg ? no. read my post again before making another cluless post. I said that hibs if they come out not fightink with fg but 12-14 or even more ppl. this happened countless times, sad is that the main fg is rr8+ ..

 

[Puppet]

did i say anywhere hib zerg ? no. read my post again before making another cluless post. I said that hibs if they come out not fightink with fg but 12-14 or even more ppl. this happened countless times, sad is that the main fg is rr8+ ..

LOL. The only fg which is RR8+ is the mixed ECL/TDD/AD-group with Murweli,Tirfo,Ramble,Mesch,Egar,Quinlan,Xxcalibur,Barlenann, Dopi,Nilmeia, Puppethealer etc - those names in particular.

I would suggest learning to count; stop counting the uber level 12 druid pet for 4 people or something, or the (serious insane) amount of Zo'Arkat pets; since the last fight WE had with you was 1 fg vs 1fg around grogs Tower-DCX.

That was 1 FG; no adds; I checked later on for any adds and we where 8 in Emain Macha

'Argueing' with you is like telling Chinese people they all look alike and they say 'Aaaaahhh no!!! You all look alike!'..

 

[xxManiacxx]

One more thing.
Have anyone wondered _why_ are so many alb stealthers out?

Becase mostly built rvr grps out at rvr. Maelstrom, AoD, PE, hibs are running in a high rr grp when they out.

Now lets take only a level50 rr3-rr5 player wich in a mostyle PvE guild not hardcore RvR if they make a grp from 8 players like this they die on the first rr7+ grp wich playing with each other since months now, and useing teamspeak, they have more experinence. And these random albs grps run out only 2-3 times and then they all disband and goes leveling their stealther alts.
And if they make a bigger zerg that also results whine
And if they go out to frontier to take keeps back that also ends badly most times. I saw many times 30-40 alb deathspams by 8-12 mids. And if you really think inside of this noone is really responsible.
Not the hard rvr grps becase they just like to play with each other.
Not the albs who die allwayas in random grps becase they dont have much chance.
But in a long time this will result more stealthers and not just from the alb side.
And thrust me its _really much better_ to play with a stealther class, then to go out with a random grp.

Ppl rolled infiltrators because everyone was thinking its easy mode. Just the same way everyone is rolling scouts now. Then they get their ass kicked once and starts to group up instead.

If those 8-20 alb stealthers (depending on time of day) all had a decent decked out regular char and went out RvRing mids wouldnt be swarmed as it is now.

Sure opted grps will probably still win but there is not only opted groups out. Out of 60-90 mids in emain on prime time 1-3 groups are opted. That 8-24 ppl outta 60-90. There is plenty to kill for both albs and hibs aslong as they dont log after they gets killed the first time.

Who gives a *censor* if u run 2 groups on /stick? You probably need to the first hour or so to lower the mid numbers in emain, then when there starts to get less mids in emain and less chance of getting adds then split up for a while, if the zerg returns group up again and try and remove it.

Atleast AoD tries to keep mid numbers fairly constant in Emain.
Can´t see anyone else doing it and soon there will probably be hunters(NF) or SBs running with the fg´s just because there are so many stealthers out (pop 8 stealthers and hey its a fg of easy rp´s). Unfortunetly the few soloers out there will get caughed in between.

Just my 2cp

 

[Corran]

LOL. The only fg which is RR8+ is the mixed ECL/TDD/AD-group with Murweli,Tirfo,Ramble,Mesch,Egar,Quinlan,Xxcalibur,Barlenann, Dopi,Nilmeia, Puppethealer etc - those names in particular.

I would suggest learning to count; stop counting the uber level 12 druid pet for 4 people or something, or the (serious insane) amount of Zo'Arkat pets; since the last fight WE had with you was 1 fg vs 1fg around grogs Tower-DCX.

That was 1 FG; no adds; I checked later on for any adds and we where 8 in Emain Macha

'Argueing' with you is like telling Chinese people they all look alike and they say 'Aaaaahhh no!!! You all look alike!'..

all depends where meet you tbh, as often you find stealthers using your speed to get to emain if using croc ring. So meet before the mg's = 5 stealther adds. Was 4-5 stealthers and jamiesmallicious the other day, possibly mymritl as well but he went up on his own before and may of again then grouped up with them and got me ganked when i hugged instead of fought with him. Damn stealthers

 

[Puppet]

all depends where meet you tbh, as often you find stealthers using your speed to get to emain if using croc ring. So meet before the mg's = 5 stealther adds. Was 4-5 stealthers and jamiesmallicious the other day, possibly mymritl as well but he went up on his own before and may of again then grouped up with them and got me ganked when i hugged instead of fought with him. Damn stealthers

Im a regular in Emain Macha as Hib and ofcourse 4-5 stealthers is common to find.. On /who macha.

the most stealthers i've seen using Murweli/Nico/World his CTR at the same time was 3, this included me. Most break off around Spine, some already do at Bolg/Crim (depending where BB is) I mostly keep stick till DCX. If you meet em there; odds are u get me as free add, yes

But to be honest; I dont see it happening 5 stealther adds before the MG's. Not to mention I got no idea what before the MG is since Hibs dont use a MG to enter Emain :O

Anyhow I rarely see a 'normal ganker from Alb/Mid' getting ganked by a HIB stealther. I would notice it; I keep tight track of killspam to get info. On the other hand any fight I see Hib gankers die is often 1-2 Alb scouts/infils who get killspam

 

[Steveh]

LOL. The only fg which is RR8+ is the mixed ECL/TDD/AD-group with Murweli,Tirfo,Ramble,Mesch,Egar,Quinlan,Xxcalibur,Barlenann, Dopi,Nilmeia, Puppethealer etc - those names in particular.

I would suggest learning to count; stop counting the uber level 12 druid pet for 4 people or something, or the (serious insane) amount of Zo'Arkat pets; since the last fight WE had with you was 1 fg vs 1fg around grogs Tower-DCX.

That was 1 FG; no adds; I checked later on for any adds and we where 8 in Emain Macha

'Argueing' with you is like telling Chinese people they all look alike and they say 'Aaaaahhh no!!! You all look alike!'..

on that day happaned someitmes when Dragon Ancestry + some randoms and your /as group meeted us at the same place many times.i thinked you go with 2 fg becouse you got zerged by mids to.thats a 3-4 days ago.i dunno really.i have no porblem with it.we at the wrong place at wrong time.

 

[Corran]

hibs dont pass a mg but they head to one which is where half stealthers want to go, but as you said some do break of before hand... before mg = before emain bowl/zone border etc etc. And 3 stealthers make the group 11 people which is close to what aod members talking about

Though really got to laugh at the group in emain atm. 2 visable albs and 5-6 stealthers about and they run in a fg with rangers and maybe ns (not see one but what that prove). So now they down to just the stealthers as me and the other visable doing other things now. least i get to download nf earlier then i planned

 

[Uberlama]

LOL. The only fg which is RR8+ is the mixed ECL/TDD/AD-group with Murweli,Tirfo,Ramble,Mesch,Egar,Quinlan,Xxcalibur,Barlenann, Dopi,Nilmeia, Puppethealer etc - those names in particular.

I would suggest learning to count; stop counting the uber level 12 druid pet for 4 people or something, or the (serious insane) amount of Zo'Arkat pets; since the last fight WE had with you was 1 fg vs 1fg around grogs Tower-DCX.

That was 1 FG; no adds; I checked later on for any adds and we where 8 in Emain Macha

'Argueing' with you is like telling Chinese people they all look alike and they say 'Aaaaahhh no!!! You all look alike!'..

pff u wasnt even in that grp im talking about so QQ ;p other names are correct and they had 4-5 rr3-5 random hib on stick i dont care if u believe or not as u know everything better than anyone.

 

[Tirfo]

pff u wasnt even in that grp im talking about so QQ ;p other names are correct and they had 4-5 rr3-5 random hib on stick i dont care if u believe or not as u know everything better than anyone.

That would make a change to the 1-2fg you run around with on stick sometimes and defending yourselves all the time by saying you dont, if DA was adding on all our fights you can go on kidding yourselves that we were asking them to, ive made most of my rp's on both my toons from 1fg vs. 1fg its the way i like to play, you however have not, wasting my time on here talking to people like you, i'd get more sense out of a confused dog.

 

[klavrynd]

fg + stealthers = typical alb behaviour, be glad steveh stopped running *.hu group like before

 

[Edlina]

Agree with klav, at least steveh isn't running 2fg (without counting stealthers) in Odins all the time now, credit where it's due.
Ofcourse that doesn't mean you "ever" meet him as 1fg only ><

 

[Straef]

fg + stealthers = typical alb behaviour, be glad steveh stopped running *.hu group like before

Can't blame the fg for having a bunch of retarded easymode people following em tho.

 

[Illtar]

Anyways give more ppl running 2-5 ppl, non stealthers. And less always making fgs. Mids tend to thing fg is needed in the middle of the night

 

[Corran]

puppet, i hope i dont see any whines from you about groups/stealther adds anymore. You were a complete joke today yourself.

Fight a hib, spinesrpout adds.
fight a hib. Your fg adds.
fight mids. your fg adds.
fight 2 hibs in a 2vs2 fight. your fg adds.

Damn you are skillful

 

[Puppet]

puppet, i hope i dont see any whines from you about groups/stealther adds anymore. You were a complete joke today yourself.

Fight a hib, spinesrpout adds.
fight a hib. Your fg adds.
fight mids. your fg adds.
fight 2 hibs in a 2vs2 fight. your fg adds.

Damn you are skillful

Been adding on everything since the last week; since I had about 99.999% of the people add on me / just zerg me.

This is with my ranger btw; my druid in a fg has no serious 'impact' on deciding if my group adds or not. Tried to avoid adding on a fg-fight most times (not hard if you're the only fg in Emain tho) but here and there that slips up ofcourse.

And honestly I dont give a rat about stealthers when im in a fg; certainly never been left alone on my ranger by a fg once im uncovered. If my ranger is in a fg Im sure to use my Truesight RA's to cover the 'most obvious spots' too.. Left some TRUE solo'ers alone at those times; but those are a handful; not many remain solo. fullgroup with a ranger is already severly weakened; no reason not to atleast utilize the strongpoints of the ranger-class imo

 

[Corran]

Been adding on everything since the last week; since I had about 99.999% of the people add on me / just zerg me.

This is with my ranger btw; my druid in a fg has no serious 'impact' on deciding if my group adds or not. Tried to avoid adding on a fg-fight most times (not hard if you're the only fg in Emain tho) but here and there that slips up ofcourse.

And honestly I dont give a rat about stealthers when im in a fg; certainly never been left alone on my ranger by a fg once im uncovered. If my ranger is in a fg Im sure to use my Truesight RA's to cover the 'most obvious spots' too.. Left some TRUE solo'ers alone at those times; but those are a handful; not many remain solo. fullgroup with a ranger is already severly weakened; no reason not to atleast utilize the strongpoints of the ranger-class imo

Well you came running to the rescue of some celt (egar i think) around the silo area when i was engaged with him. Hence the just standing and laugh spamming you when you did so. Didnt see the point in fighting you as you done that a few times lately to me.

Then at amg your group came and slaughtered me and a scout that were duo as 4 hibs attacked me before that. Engaged with 2 hibs and look who comes in, oh it be you and your high rr group that running around killing half the number of their people as there no fg's out.

Seems if your taking that adding attitude i best go to it with hib stealthers. Guess it me trying to be decent most the time that leads me to dying. Hell there was a hib and alb fighting outside apk and i just root spammed the hib so as not to interfer. The only reason i root spammed was i knew there more hib stealthers in the area and was protecting the alb from adds (whom was at 95% health while hib at 30% so adds would come to try help him). right after that 3 hib stealthers attack me 3 seconds down from where he was. Quite funny to be honest how rediculous this game is at the moment.

the amount of times your group added on small scale fights was just rediculous. but i guess we may as well end old emain how it began. Zerg the fuck out of anything that moves.

And yes i been rather pissy lately but i was hoping to get at least some decent rvr in emain while it was quiet to remember old rvr zones. However between mid groups at 9.30am-11.30am camping apk/amg onto fg hibs and some stealthers staying in amg are finialising in your high rr group appearing it kinda ruined that idea

Roll on nf when apparently i be fotm and overpowered. Make a change if i have some semblence of an advantage for once

 

[belxavier]

redb plays when he cba, and fyi in primtime i see at most 4 hib stealthers in our frontier.. not just emain.. our whole frontier.. chances of them all being in the same place are very slim

well i can see a few more than 4 there and since i been ganked by about 5 ns in grp solo a day or two ago not sure about that statement

 

[Panthera]

<sniff> reading this thread really makes me sad, I dont see why people whine at stealthers all the time, sure I also am a sad infiltrator of the old school...trained the old way on pygmygoblins in lyonesse...

When I do go out to play rvr I play the way I like to play, sometimes I solo..sometimes I group with other stealthers .. sometimes I group with random groups and sometimes I go out with my guild...

All those different styles of playin makes a variation on how to use my skills and gives education and often have much fun...personally I dont give a rats arse about rps, they will come naturally wether you are solo or not, I rather have a nice friendly group with fun chatter than beeing focused on rps...

I also bring out my old wizzard Phanta from time to time to dust him off..althou I do like more to play the infil simply cause I can manage to stay alive longer doin scouting etc..walking in enemylands watching frostalfs play in the snow...

Never the less I follow one simple rule when it comes to rvr: Kill or be killed!

If I see an enemy I kill him, thats what I have been trained for..I did not get trained to be nice and hand him a carrot..althou thats a nice way to catch Lurikeens...

Wether to add or be added on in fights..so what..this is war and may thy enemies die a painful death...