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SingerOfSoul
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rofl 36days /play to 50 on a BARD!!
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Well it's not always easy but if you learn to /who your arse off then you can put a grp together (doesn't have to be perfect, just people who pay attention) and off you go.
I have plenty of alts and more than one 50, I didn't get powerleveling because I rather like the chance to meet new players since not everyone is an alt of some lvl 50
Powerleveling is faster but it can be just as dull as it's all about the xp, rather have some comitted players out for some fun, I also hate leaning on other people who give up their spare time just to earn you xp, it's uber dull for them.
Just stick with it, once you get over the early lvls where you got used to saying "I'll make 2 maybe 3 lvls today", you'll meet good players and if your a good player yourself then you'll get called along, even better is when you are a good leader
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elerand
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/slap
Ok I'm just after including the BM here, since a hero/champ can be just as naff!
I have formed all kinds of XP grps and a good player can cope, took a lvl 41 BM to fomor, not an uber dungeon but at her lvl she got hit hard, good grp kept it going and everyone profited, had fun and looked forward to going back another time
I would agree if you are fighting mobs which the grp as a whole will be pushed to the limit on but you don't need to kill mobs like that in order to make good xp with almost no risk.
I love SI for the space and extra mobs, some amazing places to xp and most of which beat the traditional spots in HIB hands down!
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Hehe, I remember that Mala refused to do fins ...
and good for you too, you dinged 50 before me Being an Alb at heart and xping a bit there again, atm, I think I can fairly compare xping in both realms - and at very low lvls they both suck
- but from 20 onwards I found Hib relatively good to lvl - having said that, it wasn't to my credit, had a dear friend who's a good "uber" group organiser (/kiss to Dar ) - still, I guess this just confirms what Elerand and others have been saying about organising groups yourself (personally, I suck in it, really - lack of drive, ambition, whatever ).Although, I can't share Elerand's view on the xp group > +45 forming ... - unbelievable how many ppl I have known rather logged and waited for a fins spot then go xp somewhere in the meantime (Klazzie and Sxnij being a big exception, will never forget our pooka night
- and doh, almost forgot my dear Espa, always up for anything!!! /hug)To sum it up, Hib > Alb still for xping, it seems (well, recently it was, at least
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elerand
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Fins moosed with my head one time too many and I have a phobia of being inside CF for more than hour...I go a bit crazy
Once you get to know more people in game (IE you socialise with people you like) it gets a bit easier to get people who are interested in doing things outside the rather poor quality experience that is the norm for leveling
It's great to be able to get people who don't mind a risk or a bit of adventure in looking for places to xp, once you find spots that suit you all and your all willing to play for a few hours I find it more fun and rewarding than chaining yourself in to fins for 16 hours (I did that, never again!!) and just grinning and bearing it
When I was struggling to xp my first toon to 50 it was a nightmare and I know how disheartening it can be, just don't give up because everyone has bad days in hib but it's not like that all the time
Once you get to know more people in game (IE you socialise with people you like) it gets a bit easier to get people who are interested in doing things outside the rather poor quality experience that is the norm for leveling
It's great to be able to get people who don't mind a risk or a bit of adventure in looking for places to xp, once you find spots that suit you all and your all willing to play for a few hours I find it more fun and rewarding than chaining yourself in to fins for 16 hours (I did that, never again!!) and just grinning and bearing it
When I was struggling to xp my first toon to 50 it was a nightmare and I know how disheartening it can be, just don't give up because everyone has bad days in hib but it's not like that all the time
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Read my Sig, alrdy lvled infil 1-50 on alb and its about the same. Just do it for urself, took me 1 month rl, and about 12 days /play on alb which is pretty good for be alb xp.
Getting ppls together works aswell. I got around 3-4 grps going /day less or more succesful. 1st grp started around 8.00 CET in the morning. If someone can get a grp going at that time u shouldnt have too hard times do it at primetime.
And it really doesnt matter if u r NS or Hero etc , cause there is still plenty of em , and only time someone ASKED me to join their grp was when i was l50 alrdy.
Only thing i found hard was less xperienced players , who wasnt rdy to listen, and could take advice. They just still keep sayin their right and grps goes bad. I m very ok with n00bs etc , since all been there but only if they can accept advices.
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but you're a cute minim00se
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leorin
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Originally posted by Kobold
but you're a cute minim00se
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.........(.......57days /payed on my ranger to ding 50...........)..... 
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next patch lfg flag goes over all the zones/into dungeons/everywhere. Hopefully improve things.
It's the same on excal/alb - I'm levelling up alts and everyone of a similar level is being pled
It's the same on excal/alb - I'm levelling up alts and everyone of a similar level is being pled
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Mysteriax
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Indeed it is damn hard to find a good group.
My main is now 37 (druid)
Well its damn hard to find a group these days.
my /played is now about 7 days (i cant play daoc all the time)
But once i have a group things are fine.
Sometimes i get asked. Most of the time people making a group seem to overlook me. Most people want a warden and/or a bard for xp'ing cause of less downtime.
I always find it funny though that the people who ignore me ask me later for a rez.
Well I aint that stupid. Problems they usualy encounter without a druid is simple bards and wardens heals are very weak compared to a druid heal. Always find it funny when I heal in a group when bard or warden heal 15% hp heal , when i heal 35% of total hp back.
So far for the rant to get people like druids more.
Now for the rest of my rant.
Now a days I dont know where to level. People find me to low for innis , and well CM xp isnt that great anymore.
I remember the days when I was lvl 24 (quit for 3 months when i got to 25) I got groups who where way higher then me but now a days I am usualy one of the highest in the group (ok I got a little spoiled). Still XP is going damn slow now, groups seem to disband quicker then a lightning bolt, I hope I will make it to 50 once , oh well i can only hope.
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To the HOF alliance guy.
I never got a group while /as lfg in our alliance never.
If you are online at night , you know I ask every night a couple of times never got a response though
My main is now 37 (druid)
Well its damn hard to find a group these days.
my /played is now about 7 days (i cant play daoc all the time)
But once i have a group things are fine.
Sometimes i get asked. Most of the time people making a group seem to overlook me. Most people want a warden and/or a bard for xp'ing cause of less downtime.
I always find it funny though that the people who ignore me ask me later for a rez.
Well I aint that stupid. Problems they usualy encounter without a druid is simple bards and wardens heals are very weak compared to a druid heal. Always find it funny when I heal in a group when bard or warden heal 15% hp heal , when i heal 35% of total hp back.
So far for the rant to get people like druids more.
Now for the rest of my rant.
Now a days I dont know where to level. People find me to low for innis , and well CM xp isnt that great anymore.
I remember the days when I was lvl 24 (quit for 3 months when i got to 25) I got groups who where way higher then me but now a days I am usualy one of the highest in the group (ok I got a little spoiled). Still XP is going damn slow now, groups seem to disband quicker then a lightning bolt, I hope I will make it to 50 once , oh well i can only hope.
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To the HOF alliance guy.
I never got a group while /as lfg in our alliance never.
If you are online at night , you know I ask every night a couple of times never got a response though
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Ziva
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To me it looks like people are in a hurry lately. When i got my main to 50 i had a played of 20 days or something and i really never cared about it.
Sure i wanted to get 50 like the rest of the players and enjoy RvR to the max but i have had days too when i didn't get a group and i spend those crafting, questing, soloing or just running around in places i never saw before which i enjoyed also. Just do a lot of different things, go different places.
Personally i think powerlevelling/rushing people are very bad for this game. Usually they don't know anything about their class/realm/etc when they hit 50 and they tend to leave as quick as they came because after 50 they discover RvR can be very boring too.
Maybe i missed something somewhere but i always saw XPing a char as a major part of this game just like the RvR part. Sure it can be boring but so is RvR at times if u ask me.
Sure i wanted to get 50 like the rest of the players and enjoy RvR to the max but i have had days too when i didn't get a group and i spend those crafting, questing, soloing or just running around in places i never saw before which i enjoyed also. Just do a lot of different things, go different places.
Personally i think powerlevelling/rushing people are very bad for this game. Usually they don't know anything about their class/realm/etc when they hit 50 and they tend to leave as quick as they came because after 50 they discover RvR can be very boring too.
Maybe i missed something somewhere but i always saw XPing a char as a major part of this game just like the RvR part. Sure it can be boring but so is RvR at times if u ask me.
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VodkaFairy
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Too true, but it's very annoying when most of your friends have hit level 50 and are enjoying RvR while you can't join them because you are too low level...
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elerand
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Yeah people are rushing it too much, none of my lvl 50's had less than 28 days played a piece when they hit the final ding...although my warden had 28d 16h AND 1077 alch so he was a little faster
I'm still in no hurry to get another lvl 50, I like how it goes, I can have a good time xping and I don't feel put off going rvr if I'm not, not too bothered if I get ganked so long as I can do something moderately useful, this is where low lvl tanks get the short end of the stick imo.
Healers can heal and thus are not faced with much more than the usual problem of being ganked, bards can still run end and mezz, albeit with a few more resists, mages can still use spells with the same probs as bards (talking low 40's here really).
Tanks at the same lvls aren't ineffectual but it's a nasty place to be when you have penalities to hit and take more dmg whilst trying to do your job
NS can spy, uncover other stealthers and so on, good players who don't bitch and whine over every detail are always welcome if they are looking for fun first and rp's second, I've seen people have some right strops cos the grp was basically sound but having a bad time of it, especially hate it when people start shouting at bards. It's a tough job, not everyone is mezzed and there are reasons for that! Resists, purge, determination all of which make the business of mezzing a tricky one, that and the drum shining like a beacon
I'm still in no hurry to get another lvl 50, I like how it goes, I can have a good time xping and I don't feel put off going rvr if I'm not, not too bothered if I get ganked so long as I can do something moderately useful, this is where low lvl tanks get the short end of the stick imo.
Healers can heal and thus are not faced with much more than the usual problem of being ganked, bards can still run end and mezz, albeit with a few more resists, mages can still use spells with the same probs as bards (talking low 40's here really).
Tanks at the same lvls aren't ineffectual but it's a nasty place to be when you have penalities to hit and take more dmg whilst trying to do your job
NS can spy, uncover other stealthers and so on, good players who don't bitch and whine over every detail are always welcome if they are looking for fun first and rp's second, I've seen people have some right strops cos the grp was basically sound but having a bad time of it, especially hate it when people start shouting at bards. It's a tough job, not everyone is mezzed and there are reasons for that! Resists, purge, determination all of which make the business of mezzing a tricky one, that and the drum shining like a beacon
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If you need any of my alts , I'm on most days tailoring , PM Galerina and let me know who ya want
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/played of 34 days to 50 for my eld then 23 days for my warden. My champ is taking the piss now, been 35-36 for 4weeks now and soloing is pissing me off something chronic. And yes im playing a sword n board champ which is useless without a group. Past week I've lost all my xp thru ld deaths so im back to 0 bubbs on 36.
Time to hang up my daoc boots i reckon. Had my 2 main characters literally blown over in RvR due to recent patches and bored of losing 3hours of xp to an ld death or a lag death.
Time to hang up my daoc boots i reckon. Had my 2 main characters literally blown over in RvR due to recent patches and bored of losing 3hours of xp to an ld death or a lag death.
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hey spudglet the pokemon!
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Began yesterday playing hib, not been in a group yet iam a silly chanter so better of soloing first lvls ( lvl 9 played 3 hours) .
Call me in game can allways try make a group , fixed gruop for a weekend and anything till lvl 40 goes fast.
Ispaz lvl 9 chanter
BTW never had so many friendly people run by and buff me as now
Call me in game can allways try make a group , fixed gruop for a weekend and anything till lvl 40 goes fast.
Ispaz lvl 9 chanter
BTW never had so many friendly people run by and buff me as now
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My NS hit 50 with about 13 days on /play, did it like 2 days ago, and no one gimmie a grats thread yet the gits
my warden hit 50 with like 40 days played or something stupid
my warden hit 50 with like 40 days played or something stupid
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StormriderX
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Main trouble with leveling is the frustration of hainv stupid n00bs in group doing the same mistakes over and over as you try to explain what they need to do.
One example would be a mage that was in a group with my vw earlier today who insisted on running around aimlessly instead of sitting his stupid ass down to regen mana.
Another example would be a ranger who tried to taunt a mob off my valewalker instead of picking up the loose one.
Another example would be 2 tanks engaging the same mob in df in my chanter's group ensuring that one purple con mob ran amok unchecked and the whole group being wiped.
I've also had a chanter who insisted on heat debuffing mobs before PBing them claiming that pb was heat damage. You'd think after 40+ lvls he would have SOME clue as to his spells...
I've had mages nuke at mobs before they are even in range of tanks let alone been taunted by tanks and they wonder why they hell they die so fast.
I've had people go afk without saying a damn word and it gets the whole group wiped.
Those of some of the problems with xping - fucking stupid idiotic people who don't have a fucking clue >,<
One example would be a mage that was in a group with my vw earlier today who insisted on running around aimlessly instead of sitting his stupid ass down to regen mana.
Another example would be a ranger who tried to taunt a mob off my valewalker instead of picking up the loose one.
Another example would be 2 tanks engaging the same mob in df in my chanter's group ensuring that one purple con mob ran amok unchecked and the whole group being wiped.
I've also had a chanter who insisted on heat debuffing mobs before PBing them claiming that pb was heat damage. You'd think after 40+ lvls he would have SOME clue as to his spells...
I've had mages nuke at mobs before they are even in range of tanks let alone been taunted by tanks and they wonder why they hell they die so fast.
I've had people go afk without saying a damn word and it gets the whole group wiped.
Those of some of the problems with xping - fucking stupid idiotic people who don't have a fucking clue >,<
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VodkaFairy
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Take it easy storm, everyone has to learn. When you can get SO frustrated because of new players you should quit. It's not like you never done anything stupid when you started.
When I started exp'ing was fun, cos I learned new things all the time. And I could really look forward to bg1, etc. Now it's just routine. Log on, kill mobs till time runs out, LD, etc etc.
I've been sooooo close to deleting and going to alb or mid to make a fresh start, but then I realised this game is going down fast and it takes too much time to get to level 50 (for me anyway).
When I started exp'ing was fun, cos I learned new things all the time. And I could really look forward to bg1, etc. Now it's just routine. Log on, kill mobs till time runs out, LD, etc etc.
I've been sooooo close to deleting and going to alb or mid to make a fresh start, but then I realised this game is going down fast and it takes too much time to get to level 50 (for me anyway).
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Kobold
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sounds very familiar
it's very frustrating, and sometimes you just wonder if the person is just totally braindead and utterly stupid
Well I don't get much groups with my NS anyways, so I'll better off PL myself on those dam lepras
Still amazing how Cjkace managed to solo his way to 50 in CM!! you're crazy man and got ALOT of patience lol
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Too many people are getting power-levelled or are in too much of a hurry to level imo. People these days seem to think that you stay in CM until you can get on the fins list ..... which is madness! The number of people in CM between level 36 and even 48 is just stupid!
I made a group in innis last night with my bard. It took quiet a long time to get going, as most had to come from TNN/CM/etc and I was worried the group would split before it even started. Managed it in the end though and the 7 of us went down to Ailline Bin to kill BW's. Other than me, there was 1 who seemed to recognise the Bog of Cullen and I'm pretty sure Ailline Bin was a new place to nearly all of them. The xp was v good and I think I can safely say that they were a little shocked by the xp that could be made from a 3 purple mob pull (being used to Abys at best in the CM pit). Those in the group ranged from level 35 to level 46.
If people were in less of a hurry to level, they'd actually get there quicker! For every bubble you make after level 36 in CM, you could make 5 or more down near innis.
Other than Muire/Parth farm/Sprag den/CM/Fins, there's very very few places in hib which get camped by groups and that leaves some large holes in the xp path to 50.
It's definately got worse since I was levelling my ns. Come on people, use a bit of imagination, put some groups together and have some fun fighting new and interesting mobs!
I made a group in innis last night with my bard. It took quiet a long time to get going, as most had to come from TNN/CM/etc and I was worried the group would split before it even started. Managed it in the end though and the 7 of us went down to Ailline Bin to kill BW's. Other than me, there was 1 who seemed to recognise the Bog of Cullen and I'm pretty sure Ailline Bin was a new place to nearly all of them. The xp was v good and I think I can safely say that they were a little shocked by the xp that could be made from a 3 purple mob pull (being used to Abys at best in the CM pit). Those in the group ranged from level 35 to level 46.
If people were in less of a hurry to level, they'd actually get there quicker! For every bubble you make after level 36 in CM, you could make 5 or more down near innis.
Other than Muire/Parth farm/Sprag den/CM/Fins, there's very very few places in hib which get camped by groups and that leaves some large holes in the xp path to 50.
It's definately got worse since I was levelling my ns. Come on people, use a bit of imagination, put some groups together and have some fun fighting new and interesting mobs!
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StormriderX
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I know that but its the same mistakes being made over and over and over is what annoys me. You keep telling them how to do it right and they just don't listen.
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VodkaFairy
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I know it's frustrating. I remember a dude pulling when nobody had power what so ever killing the entire group. After a rezzer got us all back on our feet he pulled again, with the entire group ress sick, oop, and on half health. We got a ress again and guess what, he took his bow out again
Ran off, saw his deathmessage again, just leave them and try again.
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Hey ch@m i share your opinion about the bog. If i was a bit higher id really like to join you
Btw: Why does every hib think that animists are useless in groups?
Btw: Why does every hib think that animists are useless in groups?
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i remember j000000 many many levels agoooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(nuff said )
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VodkaFairy
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Wasn't storm the guy from the uber pulls?
Tried to tell him all the time but he didn't listen.. sjeesh
Tried to tell him all the time but he didn't listen.. sjeesh
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Even though i know it can be frustrating to loose xp because of mistakes from others it somehow makes me laugh lots of times too. Or people doing crazy pulls and u manage to kill all mobs without dieing asking yourself... wow... how did we manage this, i dunno... i like that too.
Maybe some people take this game way too serious. I can feel really shitty when others die because of me but somehow i really don't care if i die because of some mistakes made by others. Dieing is part of the game too. I'd rather be in a group with noobs willing to learn then be in a group with people that think they know it all and prefer rushing and taking risks just because they are in a hurry.
Afterall... it took me some time to figure out how to play my char so i don't mind giving others to oppurtunity to learn aswell.
Maybe some people take this game way too serious. I can feel really shitty when others die because of me but somehow i really don't care if i die because of some mistakes made by others. Dieing is part of the game too. I'd rather be in a group with noobs willing to learn then be in a group with people that think they know it all and prefer rushing and taking risks just because they are in a hurry.
Afterall... it took me some time to figure out how to play my char so i don't mind giving others to oppurtunity to learn aswell.
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elerand
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Actually think most of us at some point have done stuff like this, we learned but we don't remember the lessons
There always have been and always will be those who don't listen though and there are those with lvl 50's who don't listen too and I think many who have been on item raids can attest to.
One of the predominant reasons for people not listening I put down to age, some kid doesnt' like authority figures and a know it all attitude will rub most people up the wrong way, I've seen experienced players have a total spaz at someone and once they left in disgust (having made a fool of themselves in the process) I've normally talked to the inexperienced player and enlightened them on what they can do to improve their game for their benefit and everyone elses. Doesn't always work ofc but that will happen from time to time and there really isn't much we can do about it