The main diff. between albs and hibs

[Noche]

Let´s flame a bit here, let´s flame a bit there

The problem´s that one of alb´s support classes is not intented to support (Friar) since a high rejuv friar´s pretty senseless, might well make a cleric for that use (friar´s rejuv line´s quite poor)

Another support class (Pally) is included into tank classes, I wonder if they have made em to acolyte instead of fighter would make more sense since they´ll soon get end regen and that provides a VERY important role in grp (every alb grp should get a pally with high chant spec).

Last support class is once considered uber smite spec clerics, now we have ppl who proved that a well played rejuv cleric is just a MUST in every good alb rvr grp, with two of em an alb grp is hardly beatable due to BoF each 15 min and very good heals. When Kate or other good healer is in a grp it´s just damn impossible to kill a caster, I remember a fight 2 hib tanks and me had vs one mincer who used Sos and allowed Kate to move further from us and heal him, he didn´t lose hps due to Kate´s heal, that´s really impressive (and no BoF if I can remember well).

So IMO the problem of alb rvr lays (to certain degree) to the lack of good healers, both mid and alb MAIN healer got an alternative which is/was viable to spec instead of heal and that hurts a lot on the overall realm healing power.

Hib druid got the bad (maybe good) luck of having a weaker line as an alternative and most of em don´t spec high in it which means better buffs and great heals compared to albs (I can count with my fingers how many hib druids got high nature affinity) Beside, most of hib supporters just support their grp since none of those 3 can do SIGNIFICANT damage.

So a good hib grp needs 1 druid 1 bard 1 warden, and a good alb grp prolly needs 2 clerics and 1 mincer (lacks of CC but got better healing power) to compete, and that´s RARE. Sometimes diversity isn´t that good compared to raw/pure focus.

 

[Qte Eth]

druid&cleric 2 lines are nearly absolutely same only last one differs-and since both last lines suck..

 

[old.Mitsu]

Nature > Smite...

 

[old.Cyric]

NOW it does, but back in myyy daaay..... *mists over*

 

[Qte Eth]

nature=waste of points

 

[Vasconcelos]

Originally posted by lofff




and yes, every good hib-rvr grp has those 3 classes in... not a secret... problem with albs is u dont even try to make good rvr grps...

Well no doubt of it: hibs make good rvr groups. ON MY PERSONAL POINT OF VIEW (after some evenings scouting near crim: yesterday i was up on crim watching how hibs w8 for around 30minutes just to reform 1,5 group) they need it badly coz they must travel huge distances across their frontier zone n dont want to die in 5 minutes (at least i wouldnt want it). Thats coz u dont often see any hib solo or small fgs (u can see it in odins but pretty rare 2).
Albs die, release, visur inc!!! n there we go again.

Im curious if some of the rr5+ hibs go to emain wo the perfect group, coz the ones i saw wo druid/warden was all brehons.


PS: another question is the lack of CC in albion, but it will take us to another thread.

 

[Ensceptifica]

Originally posted by Vasconcelos
Im curious if some of the rr5+ hibs go to emain wo the perfect group, coz the ones i saw wo druid/warden was all brehons.

I open the outer DL gate and just spam invite some people, including the lowbies as I know no one else will give them a chance. If I can get a bard that's great, but I'd rather head off quick and take my chances in RvR without waiting too long. Tbh I'm amazed what a group of lvl 30-50 without a bard can do in RvR sometimes, in a positive way. If we get outnumbered and killed, we regroup at DL and fill the group back up (if anyone leaves), and I make a cg to contain as many groups as the amount that killed us. Others groups often wait for 30 minutes or more for a bard, which means in that time I sometimes get lucky and find one too.

If I really want to do some serious killing I usually make a guild group and head to Odin's or Hadrian's.

 

[tazzke]

Last support class is once considered uber smite spec clerics, now we have ppl who proved that a well played rejuv cleric is just a MUST in every good alb rvr grp, with two of em an alb grp is hardly beatable due to BoF each 15 min and very good heals.

If i remember correctly

BoF -> 30 min timer (and vs Hibs it's not much use since they nuke a tank down in 5 sec and 3 bolts anyway...i hate Qte hehe)

And you are right about 2 rej clerics in a group -> hard to kill...(luve to "play" with Kate )

BUT...when being mezzed/stunned/rooted/nukes/3 pets on you/....

It's hard to heal....
If both clerics (these days REALLY hard to find) have ALL their insta's up...you might win from Hibs, if not...you are dead...even if clerics uses purge...he won't be able to save everyone...
since you get nuked to death within a split second.


The lack of clerics is rising...since whenever i get my cleric to emain..i get 5 groupinvites....very nice for me of course, but this ain't normal.

I went from almost full smite to almost full rej...completely different style of playing...but i still like it. Only prob is most fullcore smite clerics are playing alts now...since the "smite-nerf" got to them -> so less clerics -> even a smiter can heal enough to keep someone alive...but most of them ain't there anymore.

Only thing Mythic should change to get those clerics back is to put the insta-mezz on the base smite line like the stun instead of the spec-smite line (only thing i miss being rej cleric is the lifesaver mezz i had).

 

[old.Thanatlos]

Problem with albs is probably the fact that all their CC classes/healer classes got something better to do than keeping the group alive..
I notice it on my enchanter, just too busy nuking that 1 person to notice things around me (noob when it comes to being a caster)

Clerics stunning + healing is great imo and should be happening way more often than I see it now (too often do albs go down without any heals)

Never knew minstrels got unmezz spell btw.. Minstrels for me are the most annoying class in the game because they can mezz people so damn effectively (don't whine about the duration on aoe mezz please, targeted single mezz on wardens/druids/mages are very effective)

I heal my ass off in RvR and I often use 1 or 2 bars of mana on heals alone to keep my groups alive in a 1 fg vs. 1 fg engagement but that of course depends on how many RA's the enemy has available or whether we were mezzed first.

 

[lofff]

Originally posted by tazzke

(and vs Hibs it's not much use since they nuke a tank down in 5 sec and 3 bolts anyway...i hate Qte hehe)

lol ?!1? U_u

 

[old.Ramas]

The main diff. between albs and hibs

... is that hibs are so goddamn ugly. It hurts just looking at you.


Firbolg - freak
Elf - anemic freak
Lurikeen - short freak with strangely bulbous head
Celt - human beat with ugly stick

ick.

 

[Ensceptifica]

Originally posted by old.Ramas


... is that hibs are so goddamn ugly. It hurts just looking at you.

I agree. Except it's Albs that are the ugly ones.

 

[Noche]

Originally posted by tazzke


If i remember correctly

BoF -> 30 min timer (and vs Hibs it's not much use since they nuke a tank down in 5 sec and 3 bolts anyway...i hate Qte hehe)

And you are right about 2 rej clerics in a group -> hard to kill...(luve to "play" with Kate )

2 clerics turning their BoF makes it 15 min if well timed (since albs accused us of being able to use GP each 15 min with 2 druids )

2 rej clerics in grp is a nightmare for me hehe can never kill that damn caster... I remember once I PAed Tilda and kept hitting her, got her to 0 FOUR times and all four times she´s got healed till full, and she just stand there knowing that I can´t kill her :/

As said, sometimes focus role > versatility. Mincers shine in small grps, they REALLY shine, but when it comes down to be a zerg or 2-3fg their role´s greatly reduced (I know many mincers will agree with me on that). 1fg vs 1fg, unless u got well balanced hybrid, many times it´s preferable to have focus char to make the job.

 

[Noche]

Originally posted by old.Ramas


Lurikeen - short freak with strangely bulbous head

<Cries like a baby>

 

[Inada]

you using mentalist to heal groups?

Actually yeh my ment could outheal 5 of 10 druids in xpgroups

Oh and because the alb casters cant play their class(generaly speaking),
doesn't mean they are worse than hib casters

 

[Spudgie]

Elves > Avalonians

Pointy ears rule, nuff said