The main diff. between albs and hibs

[mastade]

Forget about nerfs, forget about zergs and forget about whos overpowered or not...

the real diff. is the way you play...

see... When hibs xp, the tanks take a mob each and the casters start ae nuking em to the death, when hibs RvR, they mezz the enemy and kill em one by one.

now when Albs xp, they mezz the mobs and kill em one by one, but when they RvR, the tanks jump diff. targets and the casters start AE nuking!

Imagine how it would be if albs and hibs switched playstyle oO

ah well, better get some sleep ^^

 

[skile]

Hibernia has more casters since they are way better than alb ones, this is sort of where the problem is . Albion will get better with Purge and IP getting cheaper for tanks .

 

[Gahldir]

Naah, maybe we have more mages behind our frontierkeeps then you have behind yours, but I'd say that albion has way more mages/FG in RvR then hib has.

 

[Tyka]

Originally posted by skile
Hibernia has more casters since they are way better than alb ones, this is sort of where the problem is . Albion will get better with Purge and IP getting cheaper for tanks .

And why is that? because we have a baseline 9 sec stun? i dont even have it on my quickbar anymore, 90% of all alb mages get root, wich is far more better than my 3 sec stun, and most of them got some sort of pet, can spec in bladeturn etc etc. Alb casters are way much better than hib ones, imo.

 

[AbPoon]

Main thing you should look out for is Mid.

Being as massivly tank heavy as we are what cc you have got it's gonna be usless.

 

[lofff]

Originally posted by skile
Hibernia has more casters since they are way better than alb ones, this is sort of where the problem is . Albion will get better with Purge and IP getting cheaper for tanks .

sorry but:

alb casters are preety good caster, sorcs kick ass prolly best casters in game.

hib tanks > alb tanks. (hero is the BEST tank in game, chimps are best hybrids)

knpthx

 

[AbPoon]

Zerkers are best lights and we have a speed tank so where does this leave Alb tank wise?

 

[Duryn]

sorcs kick ass prolly best casters in game.

Maybe on paper, but if the class was so good then we would see so many more of them.
Sorcs enjoy pve in most cases, and then start to dislike the game when it comes to rvr.
I do totally agree tho that it's how albs react to an attack, most seem to turn into 'headless chicken' mode and run around wildy attacking anything. its not fun being the only person attacking a healer (damn their hp with instas ) when the rest are off attacking troll tanks.
I reckon armsmen are the best tank in the game too , biggest hitters, very high hp , best armour in game, that don't relie on a timed skill to beat others(generalising and not including RA).

 

[old.Nol]

I reckon the sorcer's get pissed because of all the fooking ice roots that get laid over their mezzes - it's super sweet. It's really suprising how many people lose the ability to think in RvR.

Sorcer's at least have a future when the mezz nerf comes...

 

[skile]

How i motivate my comment:

1. Power-relics, whose ever said I meant hib casters overall? ofc I only mean on excal.

2. Enchanters, pets need nerf?

3. Mentalist seems to have better dot and good nuke, which is IMO much better than cabbas abilitys.

4. Bladeturn and grp-purge, wardens (if im correct) protects casters with bladeturn when they are casting & what good is a sorc if the mezz doesnt count much? Eventhough SoS evens out this a bit.

But mostly, powerrelics.

 

[Ensceptifica]

Main difference is that Hibs look way better than any Alb. That's all that matters.

 

[Aussie-]

"The main diff. between albs and hibs"

hib support classes (pbt & mez) get 1.5x spec , Alb&Mid get 1.0x .

 

[old.Nol]

Originally posted by skile
4. Bladeturn and grp-purge, wardens (if im correct) protects casters with bladeturn when they are casting & what good is a sorc if the mezz doesnt count much? Eventhough SoS evens out this a bit.

bladeturn = warden
grp-purge = druid

 

[lofff]

Originally posted by Duryn

I reckon armsmen are the best tank in the game too , biggest hitters, very high hp , best armour in game, that don't relie on a timed skill to beat others(generalising and not including RA).

hehe... good joke

 

[lofff]

Originally posted by Aussie-
"The main diff. between albs and hibs"

hib support classes (pbt & mez) get 1.5x spec , Alb&Mid get 1.0x .

right... but minstrels and skalds have just 1 way to train all their "support" stuff? bard has to train nurture for songs and music for mezzes... HAS not enuff points to raise weapskills/healskills...

and friar gets 1.5x too? mb?

hope u not talking bout clerics or healers cos they are drood countermates and drood gets 1x ...


oh well

 

[razorboy]

cleric is 1x

 

[hotrat]

And why is that? because we have a baseline 9 sec stun? i dont even have it on my quickbar anymore, 90% of all alb mages get root, wich is far more better than my 3 sec stun

I can count the number of times i have used single target root on BOTH my level 50 casters on one hand (in rvr that is)

 

[lofff]

Originally posted by razorboy
cleric is 1x

hope u not talking bout clerics or healers cos they are drood countermates and drood gets 1x ...

 

[lofff]

Originally posted by hotrat


I can count the number of times i have used single target root on BOTH my level 50 casters on one hand (in rvr that is)

then u are a bit short cos its far way better than stun MANY times (ofc depends on situation) and i cant count how many times it has saved my lil rm ass

 

[Danya]

I think the spec points point is:
pbt - warden 1.5x, runie 1x, theurgist 1x.
mez - bard 1.5x, healer 1x, sorc 1x. It's compounded for healer as they're also expected to heal everyone.

 

[lofff]

ehm u comparing casters with support classes?

and btw, getting 1xdrood+warden+bard in rvr grp = KICK ASS, but they are just support, 3x full support classes. Theres not so many ppl up to play "support". U've got no 100%support classes in alb, all ur classes get sum offensive stuff

f u had 3 peeps in each grp looking for grp safety... at least u can see sum unmezzing minstrels and healing clerics lately but its still not the normal

 

[Aussie-]

Originally posted by lofff
ehm u comparing casters with support classes?

so you're saying albs have 0 support classes? ;(

Originally posted by lofff

and btw, getting 1xdrood+warden+bard in rvr grp = KICK ASS,

no shit einstein

 

[Danya]

Casters can be support as can any other class.

 

[hotrat]

With my minstrel mid casters are a lot easier to kill then hib ones. Especially eldrtich//mentalist who use qc mezz first then stun on top. While rooted i can stealth, use SoS, mezz the caster to interupt etc.

Also look on PvP server, i have yet to see an alb caster in Avalanche, its all
SM - pbae + pet
Chanter - pbae + pet
Eldritch - pbae + ae str//con debuff and other nice stuff
Runemaster (only 2 or 3) - pbt

 

[hotrat]

U've got no 100%support classes in alb, all ur classes get sum offensive stuff

That imo is a bad thing, full mind spec sorc or full earth spec theurg would be good, but are utterly gimped.

 

[Qte Eth]

albs have either same or better damage ,got 10 int more then elfs and 20int more then luri -only reason they do less damage is 3 power relics we got.
Look on ur minstrel who ganks everything including heros-we dont say heros suck ,on of reasons is- albs have got 3 str relics too .
And about 1.5 spec points for bard &warden- its nohow connected to power of class.Rm pbt spec includes nasty dd with snare,ae dd and 65% ns- while warden at 45 nurture has Only bt and resist-this is how class is made -he needs more points to work .
about 1.5 for bard-all speed classes got 1.5 and bard has got mes line so he cant spec weapon as other 2 classes do.

 

[lofff]

Originally posted by Aussie-

so you're saying albs have 0 support classes? ;(

ehm, cleric and friars are alb support classes... u know... its on daoc manual even... a)fighter b)caster c)support d)rogue <--- woot u wanna B!!?!?!?!!

and yes, every good hib-rvr grp has those 3 classes in... not a secret... problem with albs is u dont even try to make good rvr grps... just dont pick up sentences from whole paragraphs fugging its context trying to make me look fool, cos u are the only sad retard about this thread

 

[brommix]

Funny Lofff how you are being such a great man at debating and proper discussing, can show such lack of brain.
"alb casters are pretty good casters, Sorc casters kick ass, probably the best casters in the game"....ARE YOU TOTALLY DERANGED, did someone showel shit in your head or something ? Atm I feel like flaming if you didnt guess it. But views like that only shows your complete ignorance of the game mechanics, the only excuse is that your intent was to start a row and not enlighten us with your divine wisdom....and ohhh btw why do you play a runie on pvp server if sorcs are probably the best caster in the game. and why ohh why do 95 percent of all casters on pvp come from hib or mid IF ALB CASTERS ROCK SO MUCH. Jesus you are such a toad sometimes.

 

[lofff]

Originally posted by brommix
Funny Lofff how you are being such a great man at debating and proper discussing, can show such lack of brain.
"alb casters are pretty good casters, Sorc casters kick ass, probably the best casters in the game"....ARE YOU TOTALLY DERANGED, did someone showel shit in your head or something ? Atm I feel like flaming if you didnt guess it. But views like that only shows your complete ignorance of the game mechanics, the only excuse is that your intent was to start a row and not enlighten us with your divine wisdom....and ohhh btw why do you play a runie on pvp server if sorcs are probably the best caster in the game. and why ohh why do 95 percent of all casters on pvp come from hib or mid IF ALB CASTERS ROCK SO MUCH. Jesus you are such a toad sometimes.

1- i love u too

2- chill out

3- I play rm in pvp, yes, to b exact RC rm, bolter... BOLTS are nerfed to the bones, utterly useless and gimped spec and i play it cos its one of the few things i did not play on daoc yet... and its fun... bolts+AE+gtaoe+nearsight+pbt+root+baselineDD... might respec to full darkness on 40 getting the uber DD, nerfing the versatilty and fun... not even playing pvp seriously so dont really know f id ever go past lvl20. playing a sorc in pvp rounded my mind but since i play a pure CC char on exca am kinda feeded with that bussines and wanted sth new.


wonder wtf am giving yah explanations... and wonder whats ur daoc-knowledge-database ^^

 

[Aussie-]

since when did friar became a support class?
because he can heal a little? ;>

you using mentalist to heal groups?