The Lair .. US style

[old.Krusha]

Weve been discussing ths on the Midguard Alliance board

as a picture speaks a thousand words ill start with a picture
i gove ou a Lair pull US style....
http://tokfort.nu/uber.jpg

No list no waiting its all-join-in .. theyre usually around 30-50 ppl AEpuilling the forest then its free for all..

My guildie switched to US from EU (wh can blame him ...) he posted som comments on the how-to:

Ding-dong Tant in the EU house again (was a while ago).

In one month I managed to level my Runie to 45 (last 10 levels at lair)

Basically Midgard on Morgan Le Fey decided to do some massive powerlevelling to get more peeps to 50 since many have quit lately. It works. I've seen at least 4-5 ppl ding to 50 every night.

How it works:
Chatgroup for all group leaders and pullers (2 pullers is great).
Each puller pulls 4 or 8 darulvs.
Each thane and RM AE-nuke them inte the big pile of meleers (all have to stay close or the drakulvs will spread out and havoc breaks loose)
When the last drakulv dies the next batch should be incoming.

Occasionally its a wipe or semi-wipe, I've seen 70+ ppl die in 2 minutes but if all melee-type chars stay close to each other its _easy_ to constantly pull 16 drakulvs without casualties (and let me add.. 80+ ppl getting 1b/hour 24h/day)

So.. thats operation PL in US.

Tant - Semi-retired from EU

We were thinking of doing some test runs this weekend. so any one who wants can join in.. Tant will be there to lead us through the initial pulls as hes been doing it for a while now

So come on down to the lair and let the good xp roll.......

 

[old.Vodara]

hiya krusha mate sounds fun. ill come give it ago to see how it goes..

 

[old.Krusha]

Hey vodara buddy =)

Is the rest of the WR coming?

All of you whos comiong.. bear in mind as weve never done this before and it will take more than a couple of runs till we got it straightened out ..so dont be surprised (or angry) if you die repeatedly....

But im sure you all realised that already...

 

[old.Etoand]

Sounds good to me. Just the incentive I need to get the old bones out and start cracking on toward 50. Hope to see you there.

And as far as dying goes, I've lost count how many times it's happened so far at lvl42, what's a few more matter?

 

[old.Krusha]

Hey eto.. long time no see

Originally posted by old.Etoand

And as far as dying goes, I've lost count how many times it's happened so far at lvl42, what's a few more matter?

Thats the spirit Eto!

now all we need is a date

 

[old.Vodara]

not sure on the other WR.. at work at the mo so i will ask later, unless the word spreads before i get home

You could just merge the 4 groups already there (2main , 2 leech) and then any people on list make other groups.

 

[old.yaruar]

Originally posted by old.Etoand
Sounds good to me. Just the incentive I need to get the old bones out and start cracking on toward 50. Hope to see you there.

And as far as dying goes, I've lost count how many times it's happened so far at lvl42, what's a few more matter?

I'll be up for that, I'm sure we can drag a few more ghosts into the action, especially wiht the new lvl caps ;-)

 

[old.Kithara]

thats exactly the style how hibs on most of the servers play @ siabra city - no lvl restrictions etc - some highlvl ppl chainpull siabs - con purp to lvl 50 and every1 is welcome to whack em (lol i even spotted a lvl 20ish dr00d getting plvled there ) -
i personally like that style cuz no1 is left out and has to wait for a spot and so on <blinking at list owners at lair>
But i think that the ppl there gain lvls too fast and the result ~~> tons of 50ish n00bs that r useless in rvr etc =/

but thats another story

 

[old.Scooby]

Count me in, sounds like a much needed change from malmo or rau.

 

[Khalen]

Looks awesome Don't think we got something nice in Albion.. Stonelords, Oracles are a bit hard when they come with 20-30

 

[old.Krusha]

Well.. how does Sunday .. around 1300 hrs CET?

Just make sure youve ½dinged or full dinged.. i alsop think fo rthe trial runs we should keep it a bit highlvl.. and when we worked out the what-nots then its free for all no lvl requirements...

It is about time Mid zerged out =)

and about rvr being filled with n00bs.. dont worry .. theyll learn fast enough

 

[old.Etoand]

Well...

Might not be such a great idea to put the time here. I can see large armies massing at portals one minute after the start time if we do. Although it might be interesting if they both bumped into each other...

Sadly, if it is Sunday I won't be able to make it. Prior commitments and all that. I'll be sure to check up and see how it goes if it happens.

 

[old.Krusha]

hehe i can see it now.. 80 ppl 45+ in lair .. /as <hib or alb> at relic keep ... can you say mass suicide at the hands of gjalp and a quick run from hugin the relic keep

 

[old.Etoand]

So can I take it from your post you're thinking of maybe level 45+ for the initial trials?

Not flaming or complaining, just wondering what exactly our definition of high level is here.

 

[old.Krusha]

no i havent set a lvl all are welcome if you think you can follow order and take a death or two =)

but the post above was ment that if there were 80+ 45 (and equally amount below 45) not that it was only 45+ ppl .. sorry my bad =), tired as hell and i think faster than i type so my phrasing can be off..

 

[old.Krusha]

heres the How-To from the alliance forum:

Sadly Tant cant attend this weekend but hes given me the rundown on how they do it... so here we go





Line up
0 The enemy comes from here
1 Pure melee and Spear hunters here
2 thanes (zapping all they got) and Bow hunters
3 RMs (nuke-a-rama etc etc)
4 Healers

Two pullers (RMs) pulling from forest (4 each = 8 mobs inc.) if the players are atleast 30 ppl or more, NO execs from sides.. But if forest is empty pull one exec grp at a time. Not both simultaneously.

Pullers and GL in a single CG

All tanks stand in a tight grp (so AE spells can cover as much mob as possible) dont rush forward to meet the enemy.. stay put and let them run into grp .. if the mob backs away and you got agro pull him back to main grp.. dont let them stray..

Thanes AE as they approach to pull aggro in to the melee grp
ir there is enough players RMs AE on the way in aswell.. if not wait till theyve engaged in Close combat

NO mezz only AE stun when the mob is in the grp fighting, AE poison, AE nuke and other similar DMG spells are encouraged to use excessively.
Ofcourse if one mob breaks through and goes for a healer or such ten its more than OK to mezz it



as you can see its pretty much as we do already but on a larger scale =)

so i cant see why we cant do it with out Tant, might be more trial and error but im pretty confident we can pull it off...

one other thing.. given the amount of pulls that will be incoming .. there willbe an increase in drop rate aswell... i suggest (given the number of ppl required) that the person who get the drop decides on to whom it goes. It can be unfair at times.. but it cuts down on squabbling and arguing during pulls.. we need to stay 100% focused here IF the person who getrs the drop has no use or candidates for it that person will announce the item DURING dragon time.. NOT during pull... Bur the person getting the drop has final word on to whom it goes.. otherwise it will take ages to sort out whos the highest lvl, coppertoss it or what not.

I think i forgot something but cant remember what it is... hopefully not important =)

Over to you.. feedback before we put this operation into action =)

 

[herjulf]

The Dark Disciples will shurely be there with as many as possible lvl40+ to behin with during this trial.

Herjulf Hornbrytare - LVL43 Skald

 

[old.Krusha]

new time for the maneuver is 1700


and for all of you whos thinking about doing something naughty to our relics.. bear in mind the amount og highlvl ppl just 50 meters from gjalp and a express train to our relic keeps

 

[daarken]

n00b question, but where is this place?

(I need to get out the dungeons more often)

 

[Zuri]

Good luck all. Let all us noobs know how it went .

 

[old.Saborion]

17:00 CET sunday?
lvl req? =)

 

[old.Krusha]

1700 cet normal Lair restrictions atm... but that WILL change .. right now we need ppl who know what theyre up against .

But the lvl will be lowered once we get this thing into gear and the glithches has been worked out...

And some piccys will be posted im sure =)

wanna know where Gjalpinulva is? go HERE

(Press the map button )

The Drakulvs were pulling is just a tad N of Gjalp's lair

(Malmöhus is located S of Skona Ravine )

 

[old.Scooby]

The normal lair lvl restrictions being..?

 

[herjulf]

Usually the unoficiall restriction is lvl43+.

However i have only been denied ONCE when sub 43.
So it is not the much a demand, but for the trial it would be nice to have 43+ i think.
So we have "some" room for error. while we all get a feel for it.

 

[old.Krusha]

just logged of from a pretty interesting day first the relic raid and then it was time for The 2nd "Main Event" (now you know why it changed from 1100 to 1700 ).

It all went well got some nice screens and a summary that i will be posting later.. but now its bed time

 

[herjulf]

I must say results of this trial is:

BIG success!!! with some issues to work out.

Exp was low for me ranging from 1.5 - 12mill mostly 4mill.
However we are talking 5-6 mobs or double pulls 12+ mobs at the same time. And CONSTANT pulls.

So EXP OVER TIME is maybe even larger i think.

Downside is DROPS.
Higher lvl teams gets drops which is logical ofcourse.
However since it depends on all dealing damage it should be fair that loot is shared to the highest extent possible.

I saw no less than 7 Cloak of the dragonwolf drop in between DT´s. And i want one very bad so i asked.
Not ONE response, not a single one.
btw this is the cloak.
http://camelot.allakhazam.com/item.html?citem=3059

And saw other ask for items aswell, and no answers.
I say if you have equipment that u personally need right away keep it or noone ask for it KEEP it and give save for guild or whatever.
otherwise distribute it at DT it helps all.
And makes our realm better equiped to deal with the infidels.

I also gives GREAT respects to krusha for taking this initiative,
very good work indeed, there was many wills in the beginning but we got it working finally, and it flowed nice.

Hibs though we were to occupied but didnt realise that we had our express ticket Gjalpinulva nearby.
And went for our Strenght Relic.
They did good work, but were taken care of with great determination, and doors were repaired fast and swift.

Herjulf Hornbrytare - lvl43 skald

 

[old.Scooby]

Grats Krusha - wasn't the best exp I've had, 2-5 mil per mob usually but at that pace it added up nicely. It was brilliantly organised by Krusha and the pullers did a great job. I agree with herjulf about drops but as this was the first time I had expected it and didn't mind at all. This type of event looks very promising for the future, be sure to organise the next one soon Krusha

 

[herjulf]

CAMP MAP

And finally, and dont laugh at me hehe.
i liked this way of exping, it is actionpacked.

So i made e little helper map to explain what krusha explained in his early post.
Explaining the main mechanics of how to make it work.

And dont laugh now, i am not the best artist.
i did what i could with what resources i had.
so kiddiedrawing warning done, so here it is.

http://hem.passagen.se/robemell/lair_mass_camp.jpg

And since we are to see more pre lvl40ish players coming here, something must be explained.

DRAGONTIME: (DT) The bad bad furry dragon Gjalpinulva makes daily patrols of her domain. at Gametime 1200-1400 the camp area must be evacuated or all will be slayed.

How to get there.
It is quite hazardous, and chances are very slim if u are aggro to svartalfs.
Hug the left wall in malmo, go straight over at a valley to left where there is a svartalf camp and keep hugging the left wall.. looong walk til u get to an illuminated stone formation that looks like an H, or to some people an N, but commonly called the "H".
if u keep hugging the wall past the H, just after u see a tree. stop before that tree and go diagonal staight ovet valley to a tree on the hillside on the other side and hug that wall and run to left.
This an be tricky since DRAKULV patrols have relativly wide aggro range. so take it easy when running and HUG the wall.
The especially tricky part is just before the hill turns before the LAIR.
Those drakulv patrols can sometimes spawn and patrol high on the mountainside.
if u get past u are there u should see all the people on the field to the right of the lair. or on hillside on right.

Well that was all.

Peace

 

[Hulbur]

Damn that was fun

To bad you all had to go and LD in the middle of the MOTHER OF ALL PULLS

I think i counted some 30+ Drakulvs incoming there, and suddely everyone just stopped hitting the mobs. Except me, but im a troll, so im a bit slow on picking up the new trends.

(the no-hit-incomming trend was very new to me )

We have to do this again, and Herjulf, sorry about the cloack, ill give you one next time I get one i swear. All i got was Yet Another DE Hauberk

Exp wasn't THAT great for me, but it sure was better then sitting on my flat arse and waiting for a spot in a group somewhere, and i got to help some Guildies getting exp

Next time, groups without AOE nukers should yell for one! Like with skalds in RvR, if your group have more then one, be a good boy and share

Hope to c you all there again soon.

Here comes the cow

 

[old.Marabeth]

If the svartalf's hate you what should you kill to get back in their good books?