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I get annoyed hearing of all the terrorism killing people in places like Iraq. Especially just after this disaster :/

 

[Chrystina]

I get annoyed hearing of all the terrorism killing people in places like Iraq. Especially just after this disaster :/

well, you can blame Mr. Bush for the Iraq shit ... before he "rescued" and "cleaned" Iraq from the evil evil people there was no terrorist attacks and daily killings of soldiers etc .... THANK YOU MR. BUSH FOR DOING US THIS FAVOUR!

 

[Jayce]

Does anyone have any guildies that were in the effected area's? Puffdaddy from DA was in Thailand, last in Bangkok, but we've heard nothing since. Hopefully all is well.

 

[ghoulert]

Does the fact that i didnt make a thread on FH, but i donated all the money i could spare, make me a bad guy ? :[

 

[Tuppe]

There is an ethical difference between the Twin Towers and this disaster. Atleast many will feel like it is. In the Twin Towers 4000-5000 people were murdered.

its like when US dropped 2 nuclear bomb to japan and how many japanese, childs, young, old, males and females, in end get killed? what i have read cancer is still killing japanese people, was it murder or war act? how twin towers different from this? i guess those stupid jerk terrorists think they are in war against US.

disaster, in any form is terrible, at this point all kind support to these countries who suffer is needed.

 

[Morchaoron]

its like when US dropped 2 nuclear bomb to japan and how many japanese, childs, young, old, males and females, in end get killed? what i have read cancer is still killing japanese people, was it murder or war act? how twin towers different from this? i guess those stupid jerk terrorists think they are in war against US.

Be happy they used those bombs, a full scale invasion in Japan would have costed millions of lives

 

[Chronictank]

USA: £18m
UK: £15m
Japan £15m

with the US being the largest donators....

actually japan is the largest contributer at 500m currently

Japan
$500m (£264m) in government donations

USA
$350m in government donations

Britain
$96m in government donations

difference between this and 911? 911 was a propaganda event to justify a war and there was the discussion of whether it was sufficient grounds to do so or not. this is a natural disaster of a huge scale,not much to disagree about

 

[VivaLaHag]

The shame is that the worlds countrys are just trying to look more generous and out bid each other. I was so shock that I donated a little which is all i could afford. Hope it does come to some use for them.

 

[fionnel]

Be happy they used those bombs, a full scale invasion in Japan would have costed millions of lives

a) Not true, Japan was isolated and w/o resources to keep this war for long. Nothing suggest they could hold on more than Germany did and that hardly cost as many lives.

b) There's a difference between killing army soldiers, however tragic that may be and just bombing unsuspected civilians.

It's pure propaganda bs that bombing was needed, it was just a show off.

Sorry for going off topic, carry on.

 

[Ssera]

a) Not true, Japan was isolated and w/o resources to keep this war for long. Nothing suggest they could hold on more than Germany did and that hardly cost as many lives.

b) There's a difference between killing army soldiers, however tragic that may be and just bombing unsuspected civilians.

It's pure propaganda bs that bombing was needed, it was just a show off.

Sorry for going off topic, carry on.

a.) No, the Japanese Army would have fought to the death, just like they did in almost every battle they fought against the allies. An assault on the Japan and Tokyo itself would have resulted in hundreds of thousands of deaths, and even more civilian casualties.

b.) True but people seem to forget that the attacks on Hiroshima and Nagasaki killed less people combined than one night of bombing over Tokyo (the allies used incendiary bombs and as Tokyo was almost solely built with wood... well I'm sure you can imagine what happened).

Sure, they probably could have managed without but it would have taken far far longer and cost far more lives in the end.

(btw even when the Germans were retreating back to Berlin, were without resources and on the brink of defeat - they still fought for every inch of their land, just like the Japanese would have.)

Now back on topic - to be honest, I find this "let's see who can donate the most" attitude by the media and governments of the world to be quite disgusting. Furthermore if you look at the scale of things, 150,000 deaths isn't really a lot... especially when there's far more people dieing every day in onther places of the world which we never hear about. What makes this so special compared to the famine in Somalia or the civil war in Darfur where the armies are made up almost exclusively of 11 to 15 year old kids!?

 

[[TB] Benedictine]

Interesting fact I heard from an Aid Agency Director yesterday...

50% of all aid funds pledged by Governments never materialises...

 

[Jayce]

it would have taken far far longer and cost far more

I think you've hit the nail on the head ....

 

[Milne]

Thing is though right, i know what happened totally sucked majorly, but think about it, shit loads of people are dying, because of man made pap like wars, and that can actually be STOPPED, but then as soon as it's natural and it couldn't be helped everyone gets all pissy about it. Well fuck me but is everyone so retarded to see that mad shit like that is happening all the time, but it's not natural, it's man made.



Bush

 

[[TB] Benedictine]

The only people who belive war is unavoidable are pacifists and teenagers

Both are naiive

 

[Tesla Monkor]

a.) No, the Japanese Army would have fought to the death, just like they did in almost every battle they fought against the allies. An assault on the Japan and Tokyo itself would have resulted in hundreds of thousands of deaths, and even more civilian casualties.

Actually, there were already tentative negotiations for the Japanese surrender underway. The Japanese government wanted, at any cost, to keep their Emperor untouched.

The USA nuked Japan anyway - Eventhough Japan had no resources left to fight. But that's over and done with. History.

b.) True but people seem to forget that the attacks on Hiroshima and Nagasaki killed less people combined than one night of bombing over Tokyo (the allies used incendiary bombs and as Tokyo was almost solely built with wood... well I'm sure you can imagine what happened).

We'll never know if it had ever gotten that far, now.

Australia has already offered 600M Euro, Germany 500M Euro and the Dutch population and companies collected 112M Euro last night. My donation is in there, too.

It's horrible, it's terrible, but in the end, shit happens. IMO this thread does not belong here in the game forum and should be moved to an unrelated section.

 

[Morchaoron]

And guess what? Thailand doesnt even want money from foreign countries... -.-