The happenings in Thailand

[Leleith]

So...
So far i havent seen a single thread about it in here. A friend of mine told me there were 1 or 2 in the "excal rvr-discussions"... Please, tell me that we can stretch a bit more than that? Please tell me that everyone stand speechless, unable to even start a thread about it. Since ANYONE can start a thread here, about ANYTHING, at ANY TIME. Ive seen thread after thread, after fucking thread being made, without anyone even mention one word about this. Are people being more concerned in pixels, than other peoples health and well-being, or is everyone, as i said, standing speechless, waiting for someone else to do something?
I know, for some people the reality is bound to the computer. But i can tell you, reality struck once again. But this time, outside the computer. And this time it hit us hard. Even though it might be "far away"... I´ve read and heard that about maybe 80´000 people are dead and more are to die, for sure. I know we had threads about the "twin towers" on barrysworld.com back in the days, and many people know that "disaster" cost nearly 4000 people their lives. And even though that forum itself isnt anynore, many of the people that were playing back then, still are here.
Let me tell you, for those that havent understood the whole width of this: 80000 people is MUCH more than 4000, and they surely deserve a thread.

I didnt make this thread to point at anyone. And i really hope someone will point me to a VISIBLE thread somewhere near here and correct me if im wrong somewhere and somehow... I just hope that people can show some spirit (or balls, as i would put it) here, as well. Please, take care of yourselves and eachother out there.

Happy new year to all of you (even though i still think that albs suck donkeyballs. Nothing can change that )

 

[Jobil]

or maybe they dont talk about it on a game forum, but talk to rl friends etc

 

[Leleith]

or maybe they dont talk about it on a game forum, but talk to rl friends etc

So, they take their time to start and dedicate a whole thread to 1 person alone, to whine, thank for a good fight, congratulate to a "ding" or ask a question, but they cant write a few fucking letters about whats happening in the so called "real life", around us, when 80000 pepole+ dies? Dont you dont think i have spent time, discussing this with my friends and the people around me?

Let me tell you something... I pay this game with REAL money, that i earn from a REAL job, that i spend REAL hours on. Just to "waste" real time. Do you really think i want to waste my entire lifetime on a game, based on a community that cares about that game alone? Do you think those people were born with that game and with that community alone? And if so, what will happend to them when that game dies?

Seriously...

 

[Vilje]

Let me tell you, for those that havent understood the whole width of this: 80000 people is MUCH more than 4000, and they surely deserve a thread.

There is an ethical difference between the Twin Towers and this disaster. Atleast many will feel like it is. In the Twin Towers 4000-5000 people were murdered. Don't get me wrong, it is still a disaster just as terrible and cruel, worse imo, but people will think differently of it. And thats probably why that got a thread and this dident get it ( until now ), and I'm glad it finally happened.
In addition the Twin Towers were much more focused on in the television, in the newpapers, etc imo. This might be another reason.

I will be donation all the money I have available to help down there. 800 of my countrymen ( Norway ) is missing, many probably dead. I know some people that were down there at that moment. Have not heard from them yet.

EDIT: I heard that last time there was an incident like this down there in the 70's it hit Sri Lanka. The death counts started out on 7000 and in the end it escalated to 300 000 ( or was it 3 million? Anyways ALOT of people ). This time, the wave struck 11 more countries besides this one, and the death count started at 20 000 (?). Imagine what it will be like in the end...Horrible.

 

[Marczje]

~120.000

 

[Krissy]

Although yes its a huge issue, many people have lost their lives, and this is only the start with disease spreading fast now to boot.

But as many have said this is a daoc forum, it is a place to scape in to a fake world, this is called escapisum. If you want to take about rl issues that dont effect daoc then use off topic, sounds harsh but its the right thing to do.

And not everyone cares, also sounds abit strange but then everyone has a different set of morals, you may not like it, and may feel the need to flame people who dont agree with your threads but hay, if you truely wanted to show your remorce then you wouldnt use your own thread to flame others who dont agree with you.

Lets just hope the aid can save afew lifes, thats all we can hope for now.

 

[Jaem-]

Donated some stuff to charity shop hope they get a few quid for it at least.

Natural disasters kill people, but also current meaning less wars are doing exact same thing, which is worse... :/

 

[Jupitus]

Guys, keep it respectful. I will not be moving this thread but I will ban people who show a lack of respect about this. My comment from another thread may help you to understand:

https://forums.freddyshouse.com/showpost.php?p=624755&postcount=97

Now behave please.

 

[Dakkath]

Ok, for me at least, this is how it is...

I play DAoC to escape RL...
I come to FH to talk to others who enjoy the game about the game...

RL sucks... I don't want to come on to these forums and talk RL... I have friends, family and a partner to talk to about those kinda things...

Besides.. a lot of unpleasant crap happens on a daily basis... You don't see a thread about the Argentina club fire which killed 169+, about any of the genocide in parts of Africa, the situation in Nigeria... I could go on and on... Just coz the scale of this is larger than of any of those events it doesn't make any of them more worthy of sympathy or discussion...

These things happen, they're very sad and I do feel sympathy for those affected but no, I won't ever start a thread dedicated to this, or any other, tragic event that happens in RL.

Now, just incase anyone out there thinks I'm being a heartless bastard and coz it didn't affect me, I don't care, I'll close with the following...

Two friends of the family went to Sri Lanka for the xmas holiday... We know that they were planning to spend Christmas and Boxing day on the coast... No one has heard from them since X-mas day... At this point, it doesn't look like we ever will

 

[Firebirth]

How is discussing it on a electronic forum going to help them ?

Get your wallets out and call 0870 60 60 900 to make a donation to the DEC set up for the disaster, they dont except diners or amex call will take about 3-4 mins.

 

[Archeon]

My feelings are pretty much in line with Dakkath's - i've donated what I can afford and I do feel sorry for those who it's effected but I play games to get away from such things, not be reminded of them.

So please don't lord it over me that i'm an insensative twat for not mentioning it, especially when i've spent the past two days comforting a friend over the loss of over half her family. K?

 

[Khale]

What I find so odd is that people even went outside to see why the ocean retreated so far. I don't know about them but I've seen plenty of things (or read) about all kind of disasters and causes. And seeing an ocean retreat would be a major alert in my eyes to move away as fast as possible (I know the wave went with over 900 Km/h but still...).

I feel very sorry for the people who lost someone and hope they find any "evidence" if they are still alive or deceased. It's a dreadful disaster and one of nature's most devastating.

 

[Cirandi]

My feelings about the disaster isn't very important, but what i find interesting is that i (i as in part of the group that frequent these boards.) get pointed at by some guy sitting on a high horse (i know you wrote you didn't want to point your finger, but that's exactly what you did).

Through my work i get very much involved when something like this happens, and you can trust me when i say i've been spending over 12h/day at work filling my whole day with thinking about this since this happened.
When i load up DaoC i do it to "shut off" my brain, let go of worries about the rl stuff we face everyday such as war , murder, children starving to death all over the world (even in europe) etc etc.

There are far better forums for discussion about these things then these boards, people here come here to GET AWAY, not get more involved.

I'm not angry or anything, just trying to analyze why there hasn't been a single thread about it.

 

[Boomeruk]

havent watched tv for about 2 months, i found out via the bbc news website and followed it there...

its frikkin horrible, the bbc did a special half hour program on it which you can view via the bbc news website.

i donated the last of my paypal savings, felt it was the least i could do... although this is on a much larger scale, i have to remind myself that natural disasters happen and people die..

what really pisses me off, and i mean REALLY hits a nerve..

on this program, they were stating the national donations to aid the "hit zone" and it was something like this:

USA: £18m
UK: £15m
Japan £15m

with the US being the largest donators....

now add that to all the military and other donations these "super nations" have donated it still doesent amount to shit.

how much did bush spend on the elections? how much did the uk and us invest in an illegal war on iraq? these figures make me physically ill. entier towns, cities have been completely wiped out - i mean, theres nothing left but bodies, and they are donating £15m innitially? jeezus christ what has the world come to. all the human donations are going to far far far exceed these silly figures.... hell, i bet a few of the paintings in the whitehouse would be worth more than the entier US donation.

makes me furious..

 

[SoWat]

How is discussing it on a electronic forum going to help them ?

Get your wallets out and call 0870 60 60 900 to make a donation to the DEC set up for the disaster, they dont except diners or amex call will take about 3-4 mins.

They do accept Amex, but not Diners.

 

[Chesnox]

The difference is this was a natural disaster affecting huge areas of Asia whilst 911 was an act of terrorism on two huge US cities. 911 was heavily covered in real time by the worlds media. This event filtered through on boxing day as what seemed to me to be a localised natural disaster. Almost a week later the death toll has risen exponentially and it is only now the true extent of this disaster is becoming apparent.

Also, most the the FH threads about 911 were about the act of terrorism, not the disaster itself. Theres not much to talk about on forums about natural disasters. People generally can't get angry about earthquakes, but they can about terrorism.

 

[Vilje]

Theres not much to talk about on forums about natural disasters. People generally can't get angry about earthquakes, but they can about terrorism.

Aye, you've got a point. Because when a disaster is caused by terrorists, we've got someone to blame, someone to get angry on. Somehow we can't really blame mother nature for anything.

Imagine if the earthquake was caused by a man.

 

[Cirandi]

Imagine if the earthquake was caused by a man.

Wasn't that the plot of some James Bond movie?

Of not, it shouldv'e been. (but stopped by Bond at the end ofc)

 

[Chrystina]

pffff... can't you see it? It was the Korean's testing their Weapons Of Mass Destruction they bought off Saddam before the USA could get hold of 'em ... now let President Bush do his job :kissit:

 

[Jeriraa]

Blech, its the same every time. Some people die in a plane/train crash, because of a natural disaster or even a terrorist attack for that matter and its on the news people all over the western hemisphere go nuts.

There is ten thousands people dieing every day in Afrika. There is ten thousands of people mutilated by landmines (produced by the so-called civilized countries) every day. Do you care about them or do you keep claiming you didnt know about them? Why not claim you didnt know what happened down there either? Its hypocrisis isnt it?

 

[MrCeill]

What difference does it make? One extra thread among millions.

One extra thread that brings sadness and gloom.

Please dont misunderstand, i am saddened by what happens around the world. But i have my own troubles to worry about, and the troubles that happen in the streets that i live in, in MY country.

Should we be making threads about every disaster that happens from now on then? So if my neighbour gets run over i should make a thread about it for us to discuss?

I see enough miserable happenings just going through the average day, all thats ever in the news and tv is death and mass killings. I dont want to come to a *GAME* discussion forum to read about more death. FH has a proper forum for such discussions, this isnt the place for it.

Thank you.

 

[Escape]

The area affected does decide how much coverage it gets. If a tsunami rips through Florida and 20k+ people die, you'll never hear the end of it. Every channel will run 24hour programs to show you the chaste, holy americans being wronged by nature.

What will possibly be 200k+ south asian casulties will get the odd bit of coverage, foriegn aid and construction engineers to get those beaches back into shape by March!!

It's all about perception and how well you can identify with the afflicted. How many people give a shit about south indian fishermen?... and now that hundreds of them have drowned? well, enough to give them 2 minutes air-time. A few seconds for Indonesia... but save the rest for Thailand and Sri Lanka, where internationals can identify with the holiday resorts and so feel a sense of tragedy.

I hate it when people link 9/11 to tragic events. Worse events have taken place in the past decade which only get a fraction of the attention.

 

[Morchaoron]

Something odd happend, during the night of the earthquake my tortoise who was hibernating in the garage woke up and was knocking on the inside of the box in which i 'buried' him, i let him out and he was restless all night, then he continued his hibernation next day...

the temperature was low enough all the time, he must have noticed the earthquake somehow Oo

 

[semanon]

pffff... can't you see it? It was the Korean's testing their Weapons Of Mass Destruction they bought off Saddam before the USA could get hold of 'em ... now let President Bush do his job :kissit:

I personally don't think this is a joking matter...keep your jokes to yourself at time like this.

 

[Marcus75]

For those who feels jokes are suitable in this thread, think twice next time and ask yourself if you would have made that joke if one of your loved ones would have been among the hundredthousands that died...

 

[Job]

Thankyou Escape, couldn't have put it better myself, this is the world we live in.
The day every life is important as every other is the day we truly become humanity, we are so far from that ideal right now it makes me weep.

 

[Elenos]

For once i agree with everything that has been said ... except for the original post. My ex-girlfriends mother died today of cancer. I should therefore create a thread on a non-related internet forum so that I can co-herce other people into grieving and make sure that everyone feels as sad about the matter as me? No. I have donated my £5 to the DEC on the basis that if all of the 64 million people donated £1 to the fund then we would have £64m . If everyone donates £5 then the fund will have £320m. Call me a heartless bastard but without the time to fly to south Asia and physically help rebuild houses and such, my donations are the best i can do. As i myself were not directly involved and neither were my family i feel i have done my bit and i can now move on. Yes the disater was tragic. Yes i feel a great sense of loss for the families and friends who have lost loved ones. But the things i can help with closer to home will take my full attention. Yes it was christmas day and the disaster happened on boxing day. It was my 19th Birthday on the 31st of December and my ex-girlfriends mother died an hour after it was over. Please .. tell me i am being unreasonable ?

 

[Gamah]

USA: £18m
UK: £15m
Japan £15m

The UK increased its donation to £50million, money which it can't seem to find to increase pentions or put more police on the street.

 

[Jobil]

FAO Leleith

Leleith
(just came home from 2 week vacation so sorry for bumping old thread)

I didnt mean to come off disrespectful or say "you're a twat for caring".
I do care, but like someone said, FH isn't mt reality and it's the place same as DAoC i go when i dont wanna be faced with RL, but just wanna bash some liddul kobbie silly.
so if you misunderstood me, sorry for that, it's awful yes but it's also not fair to expect people to want to talk about on a RL-escape forum.

 

[Bellona]

Im fasinated by the earth, able to move that much, so fast...


the day scientists predict a meteor will hit earth, and destroy us, I will travel to the exact location that it will hit and enjoy every moment of it