The Great Armsman Revolt of 2004 (TM)

[NetNifty]

Armsman TL hasnt logged in his Pendragon (US Test server with New Frontiers on it) chars for 2 months and now posts this on VN boards... i think the "What makes you think I have to play on pendragon.. " comment shows why 90% of armsman are unhappy about him tbh.

 

[eggy]

lol, my armsman's been sitting in barrows for the last 3 months, and I think even I would do a better job.

 

[Kagato]

link doesn't work for me, but if its anything to do with Armsman and the Armsman TL it'll only piss me off to read it anyway, I think we've said all that needs to be said on the subject many times before in recent threads.

 

[Glottis]

I'm afraid that even having an active, knowledgeable TL will not help you in the fight against the evil overlords of Mythic... The previous archer TL, Oaklief, knew this game better than any Mythic employee, allways thought of the bigger picture (not some Savage TL asking that their weapon durability is lengthened because they decay so fast due to all the quad hits they do...) yet was very much ignored.
Mythic just sucks donkeyballs, all the TL can do is make the users believe Mythic actually gives a rat ass.
Regards, Glottis uke:

 

[TeaSpoon]

Links not working, but the Armsman TL is a twunt, and if that link helps show that, then we all agree.

What an idiot.

 

[Fedaykin]

armsman are the worst heavy tank and always have been - Mythic wont change you as long as people still play the class enough

wizards are the same

 

[Danamyr]

link doesn't work for me, but if its anything to do with Armsman and the Armsman TL it'll only piss me off to read it anyway, I think we've said all that needs to be said on the subject many times before in recent threads.

Agreed.

Would just state that I think it's brilliant how dedicated you are to your class though - read many of your posts before, and think it's a shame that Mythic can't consider Euro players for Team Leads, because you'd get my vote.

 

[Ilienwyn]

lol, my armsman's been sitting in barrows for the last 3 months, and I think even I would do a better job.

Mine is sitting in my house, paying the rent from time to time and putting items at CM...

 

[Moo]

on the subject of euro TLs

we need them

even if its just like 3 representatives from each realm per server who can send their comments to mythic and get slightly more notification etc. Cuz atm it anoys me that a bunch of whiney no-skill yanks get to have their say in things like NF, where euro players (who have the best rvr servers) dont.

 

[Tualatin]

yeah, im sure all the yanks are no skill..

Anyway, Mythic doesnt get direct money from us, so i dont think they cba to put extra work for europe while GOA handles it all for them, and Mythic not getting extra penny for it.

Tho it may be a good idea to do this for GoA, and that they can forward the good ideas to Mythic.

 

[Drav]

My armsman isnt shelved yet, he is still my main and occassional he is bearable to play...altho kinda boring...

Mors needs to go, Keersdan with all his test data and his dedication to the class should really be the TL..... plus he actually plays rather than beta testing WoW for months on end.

 

[Kagato]

Agreed.

Would just state that I think it's brilliant how dedicated you are to your class though - read many of your posts before, and think it's a shame that Mythic can't consider Euro players for Team Leads, because you'd get my vote.

Thanks but i'd soon get kicked from the scheme for being to sarcastic with Mythic. they don't seem to like TL's who don't kiss there ass and beg.

 

[Frostor]

Kagato for Arms TL!!
maybe theres some hope left then xD

 

[Aadia]

Agreed.

Would just state that I think it's brilliant how dedicated you are to your class though - read many of your posts before, and think it's a shame that Mythic can't consider Euro players for Team Leads, because you'd get my vote.

Hmmm no offence on everyone here, but tbh i need to have something of my chest now.

You say you love Kagato's posts on armsmen and how to play them with all the abilities on it in group and solo as stating that he knows all about it.
He probably might know all about a soloing armsman who runs around with his buffbot as that's what he does.
I've never or very rarely seen him in groups as i know he hates going rvr where it's 'zergy' or in a group. He once said that he rather goes solo (what he always does / or almost solo) then him being in an rvr group.

So tell me this then... how on earth could a solo armsman running around with a bb on his tail know ALL about groups in rvr ? Just cuz he might have ever been a few times in exception in one? That doesn't mean that you know how armsmen work in rvr. Nor does that for knowing how a cleric works in rvr.

Kagato i don't have anything against you but stop acting like you know everything tbh as you don't.

 

[Kagato]

Hmmm no offence on everyone here, but tbh i need to have something of my chest now.

You say you love Kagato's posts on armsmen and how to play them with all the abilities on it in group and solo as stating that he knows all about it.
He probably might know all about a soloing armsman who runs around with his buffbot as that's what he does.
I've never or very rarely seen him in groups as i know he hates going rvr where it's 'zergy' or in a group. He once said that he rather goes solo (what he always does / or almost solo) then him being in an rvr group.

So tell me this then... how on earth could a solo armsman running around with a bb on his tail know ALL about groups in rvr ? Just cuz he might have ever been a few times in exception in one? That doesn't mean that you know how armsmen work in rvr. Nor does that for knowing how a cleric works in rvr.

Kagato i don't have anything against you but stop acting like you know everything tbh as you don't.

Now now hun, don't hold back, say how you feel :wub:


Ok but seriously, what is your problem with me? And where exactly have I claimed to be the God of armsman lol, or even claimed to know everything? I don't, I have said before and openly say it now, I don't have a clue about defensive Armsman or shield or one handed fighting, because I don't and never will play like that, however if it comes to offensive and polearms then I think I am in my element and know what im talking about. But I have never claimed to know everything.

As for me and grouping or soloing, please tell me how exactly you are suddenly an expert on what I do or don't do? I wasn't aware I had you watching over my shoulder to see when I was or was not grouped but for your infomation soloing is increasingly hard now even for veterans, if I was happy soloing then I would not of bothered joining First Cohort lol. But groups are sometimes full and im not one to hang around yelling LFG when I could be hunting stealthers, sorry to disapoint you.

However getting back to the core of the issue if you are not happy with my knowledge of Armsman or what I say then please feel free to debate it with me, theres plenty of threads of late on the subject, if I am wrong in my opinions in any of them (and as shown here alot of Armsman do agree with what I have said) then feel free to point out where I am at fault.

 

[Belomar]

Kagato i don't have anything against you but stop acting like you know everything tbh as you don't.

Whoa. It seems this was a sore point. Very sore, as a matter of fact.

 

[Aybabtu]

and as shown here alot of Armsman do agree with what I have said

One might raise a question on how active these Armsman's are, 1 claims to be active, and I don't doubt him, but the rest doesn't play an Arms or it has been put a side for some time, and some doens't even have one.

They can agree all they want but do they actually play enough to see the true problems?

 

[NetNifty]

well I'm very much active on my armsman, but im s/s which means I dont see the issues associated with pole or 2h. I do however see the problems with getting groups (i'm mainly competing with paladins for the defence role than mercs for the offence) and our use in groups.

 

[Calamore]

armsman 4 teh winzor

 

[Asha]

Chuffy would have been a great Arms TL ;/

 

[Moo]

take off dual spec from arms and it would be quite a decent class

i can see a nice spec of 42 shield 50 pole xx parry xx slash/crush/thrust being nice on a ho arms with low quick and high str and a 6.0 pole

altho thats just fixing them, they still need spicing up somehow, no ideas here

 

[Sigh]

ye chuffy\o/

 

[Kagato]

Whoa. It seems this was a sore point. Very sore, as a matter of fact.

Just an excuse to have a go at me methinks,

 

[Kagato]

One might raise a question on how active these Armsman's are, 1 claims to be active, and I don't doubt him, but the rest doesn't play an Arms or it has been put a side for some time, and some doens't even have one.

They can agree all they want but do they actually play enough to see the true problems?

You don't really need to play alot to see the problems with Armsman, but you do need to play alot to get a realistic view of the best way to solve these problems and maintain balance. However my point there was simply that if my suggestions and comments on the class to date were so out of whack then there wouldn't be be so many people agreeing with me, and I was refering to past threads on the Armsmen (oh which there has been quite a few in recent months) not this one.

As for active Armsman, its merely just another sad sign of the times that there is so few left, plenty level them up and try them out but few stick with the class.

 

[Kagato]

take off dual spec from arms and it would be quite a decent class

i can see a nice spec of 42 shield 50 pole xx parry xx slash/crush/thrust being nice on a ho arms with low quick and high str and a 6.0 pole

altho thats just fixing them, they still need spicing up somehow, no ideas here

No thankyou, I do not want double-spec removed, I want it fixed, the whole concept behind 'advanced weapons' and the ability to narrow the damage flucturation is a sound one and if it did what it was supposed to do then it would be great and a nice defining feature of Albions plate tanks, its the fact that double-spec is not working that is the problem with it, damage variance is still very high even with capped thrust/slash/crush.

 

[Dawn]

kagato pWNs. he posts between swings and aadia BACKOFFMKAY??///slash

 

[Aadia]

kagato pWNs. he posts between swings and aadia BACKOFFMKAY??///slash

such a postfarmer

 

[gunner440]

yes let's ask mythic to make kagato armsman TL (haha)

that way the armsman class will become even more useless than it already is and we'll end up with a char more suited to the style of tekken than one for group combat

yeah kagato

round 1.. fight !

 

[Aoami]

Coim For Armsman Tl!!!11

 

[Kagato]

kagato pWNs. he posts between swings and aadia BACKOFFMKAY??///slash

Only every second swing, need time to make a cup of tea on the first.