The future of TG, and behaviour of Rauthan

[ormagaa]

Here is the deal about this post:
I know it is lots written, im just trying to give the truth
about how TG is becoming.


About 1½ week ago, i posted on guilds private forum, that i was arranging a tgraid for tonight. Very well, we met up in Hagall, saw there already were ppl from Snakes of Panaker and Nolby Pride in TG. Asked them "What bosses are you going for", he named 4 of them, and i said, thats fine, then we wont disturb you, and get the rest of the councils that they cant do with that smgroup.

Just as we are leaving, i come up with rauthan arranging a tgraid tonight. and therefor we are not allowed to do our.

And since we broke these rules, PP and Bannana Bunnies (Where i have one char) was suddenly banned from his upcoming Dragonraids.

He told me all gms have had an agreement that FoMs caledar is some sort of official bookingcalendar for TG, where you have to book the cave when you wish to go there.


Anyway, he said he booked this over a week ago, (where did you write that, all i see is a discrete bwpost from yesterday), he sais he have mailed an officer from fom about booking it, spoke to the guy in FoM, no mail, its STRONG LIES my friend.

So would that make that bwthread an official booking of tg for tonight?


He after this said, you can join my raid with your 2fgs, OR ELSE, they would be hitting on the mobs that we attacked and steal them.

WHAT IS THAT F'CKING ATTITUDE COMING FROM ?

Ofcourse after this, i said no to his offer, and said to my guildfriends i didn't want any childish attitude on the raid im arranging, to go in there stealing eachothers mobs.
I wished him good luck on the raid, and said to my friends that
this hunt was over.

You also told me that you were a volunteer from goa, knowing that yesterday was the patchday and you booked the cave after that date. Is that true aswell or strong lies like the rest?
And if its true, why would i care about it..

You do much for the realm, but in my and lots others oppinion its only your words that count. And you never have any respect for others.

What makes YOU more elite than ME and can descide what people are allowed in Tuscarien Glacier a Thursday Evening.


The guild Bannana Bunnies and Pro Patria have nothing to do with this, and should not be banned from future DR:s. Ban me if you want to. I would never want to help you in the future anyway until i get an appology for your acting.

And what is the difference on 3fg random people going down (maybe same alliance), and 2fg from a guildgroup.


Cincerely

 

[Carlos Bananos]

thanks for being kind enough to share.

as for rua..he's a tit, organises a few raids an thinks he rules the world, he has no right to just take over a tg raid spot.

 

[old.Sko]

imho make a raid of your own.
though i have a strong distaste for pve, i`ll try to drag our group to dragon =D

 

[raithian]

fatc 6 weeks ago all guilds agreed if a private tg raid for guilds was planed then thay would post it on l;fom calender to prevent anyone els aranging a raid pp and bb did not post anything there so i did a public tg raid.
i made an offer to merge the 2 raid groups pp refused and asked me to cancil the public raid instead as we was about to leave i refused to cancil and yet again offer to merge our 3 fg with there 2 fg pp yet again refused to merge so i went tg with my team at the pre aranged times that was posted.
now oganaa tryed to claim that no one in pp or bb read the raid i posted on bw if thay had and had bothered to inform me thay had a raid that night id have changed the day but to tell me 30 mins beofre raid starts and expect me to cancil well a few words for you not a bloody chance.

now everything could have been made easy if pp had agreed to merge the 2 groups but thay refused 3 times the fact you posted it on your forus means nothing to those in realm.
that is why i asked all gm from guilds able todo tg raids to post them on fom calender to prevent clashes in tg raids TO POST GUILD RAIDS as public raids are posted on bw but guild raids are not fom calender was clear last night no raids on it bw was clear no raids planed .
pp gm agreed to the idea of posting guild raids on the calender if pp failed to do so that is there problem.
all this could have been avoided if pp had posted there guild raid as thay agreed to do or had merged the 2 teams as was asked.
when there has been other tg raids and 2 groups going thay have agreed to merge so why did pp refuse are thay to good to join in with the rest of the realm is that why thay refused to merge your better than all the rest well if thats the case then you must be good enought to solo dr so your not in need of rest of the realm to do it at no point did i say you could not go on tg it was you who surgested i canciled my planed raid and when i refused you got stropy i made u an offer to merge you refused i just informed you that the repop time was 6-8 hours and that once a mob was dead thats it
now it seams it was ok for you to expect me to cancil the raid to alow you to go ahead with yours urm 2 fg go and 3 fg get canciled urm na no thanks as i stated an offer was put to you to merge both raids pp refused to do so that is there right but to expect me to cancil 10 mins before planed departure time was kinda lame ass thing to expect..

as for the rules well pp gm was in the meeting pp gms agreed to post any guild raids as did all other gms in the meeting 6 weeks ago to prevent this from happening thay never so we had a clash of raids

 

[agreiloth]

Originally posted by ormagaa
Here is the deal about this post:


You also told me that you were a volunteer from goa, knowing that yesterday was the patchday and you booked the cave after that date. Is that true aswell or strong lies like the rest?
And if its true, why would i care about it..
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Ruath is not a volunteer, don't lie about that Ruath if people report it your account is on the line. Don't ever claim to be a Volunteer or GoA employee, GoA takes that very seriously (ie. ban).

And another thing, I've been on one Ruath raid and it went ok, but seriously learn some people skills Ruath don't go flaming peeps because they want to raid the same time as you.

Not all GMs agreed (or have been told) to : "post priv. TG hunts on FoM Calender", so dont use that you have no more right to be there just because you have a hunt posted in FoM's calender or a post here on BW (lots of players dont read BW or FoM's Calender).

Another thing if you leech from other peeps pull, you're breaking the RoC and that can get you reported -> warned -> banned.

So basicly I'm saying don't threathen other players Ruath, that will get you nothing but grief! If you treathen me, 'cause im starting a raid same time as you, I'd go anyways and kill everything i can w/o leechin'.... but if you ask nicely in a soft tone... i'll postpone my own hunt....

People skills Ruath this is after all a (M)assive(M)ultiplayer.... game

 

[living]

its a game!

 

[Oddgeir]

Originally posted by raithian
fatc 6 weeks ago all guilds agreed if a private tg raid for guilds was planed then thay would post it on l;fom calender to prevent anyone els aranging a raid pp and bb did not post anything there so i did a public tg raid.
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pp gm agreed to the idea of posting guild raids on the calender if pp failed to do so that is there problem. all this could have been avoided if pp had posted there guild raid as thay agreed to do
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as for the rules well pp gm was in the meeting pp gms agreed to post any guild raids as did all other gms in the meeting 6 weeks ago to prevent this from happening thay never so we had a clash of raids.

Well neither I nor Heimer (as being GM's of PP) have ever been on any meeting where this have been decided. We have never even heard of this.
So it is NOT a fact that all guilds have agreed to this. And it's a damn lie that PP GM agreed to anything. You should get your facts straight mister.

Originally posted by raithian
now oganaa tryed to claim that no one in pp or bb read the raid i posted on bw if thay had and had bothered to inform me thay had a raid that night id have changed the day but to tell me 30 mins beofre raid starts and expect me to cancil well a few words for you not a bloody chance.

Well what do you think when you use a subject like this for your post here on BW announcing your raid. "tg better or not after patch", how the hell are ppl supposed to know that inside a thread with this subject there's an announcement for a TG raid? I thought it was simply a discussion about TG, and thus never bothered to read since that didn't seem very interesting. And seems like noone else from PP read it either.
You have to use subjects that actually reflects the content if you want your posts to be read.

Well finally. I wasn't present when all this happend and I don't know what happend and what was said by either party so I'm not going to pass any judgement.
But I definately don't like that you are lying about GM's of PP haveing agreed to anything of the sort that you state Raithian. And we did not participate in any meeting where this supposedly was decided, we didn't even know of any meeting like this.
So stating that we were there and agreed to anything is just pure lies.

And btw, didn't see anything about your raid on the LFoM-calender either.

 

[ormagaa]

Originally posted by raithian
fatc 6 weeks ago all guilds agreed if a private tg raid for guilds was planed then thay would post it on l;fom calender to prevent anyone els aranging a raid pp and bb did not post anything there so i did a public tg raid.

A public tgraid that you announced yesterday in a discrete post.
Why the hell should I use lfoms calendar for booking TG?
If you find booking TG amusive, then you might think EQ is a fun games where that is done all the time.
This is a quote i have from you "TG is a FREE zone".
Think about that one more time.

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i made an offer to merge the 2 raid groups pp refused and asked me to cancil the public raid instead as we was about to leave i refused to cancil and yet again offer to merge our 3 fg with there 2 fg pp yet again refused to merge so i went tg with my team at the pre aranged times that was posted.

Yes you offered us to join your raid, and if we didnt, you would steal and hit every mob we attacked.

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now oganaa tryed to claim that no one in pp or bb read the raid i posted on bw if thay had and had bothered to inform me thay had a raid that night id have changed the day but to tell me 30 mins beofre raid starts and expect me to cancil well a few words for you not a bloody chance.

Why should I ask YOU one week before raidtime, if its ok for YOU, for us to go to TG. Friend, if i had known this 1 week ago, that you were making a public tgraid, i woulndt set this neight either. But posting on BW "PP will have a TGraid Thursday 7/8 so stay the fuck out of there" is just lame. And that includes the fom calendar.

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that is why i asked all gm from guilds able todo tg raids to post them on fom calender to prevent clashes in tg raids TO POST GUILD RAIDS as public raids are posted on bw but guild raids are not fom calender was clear last night no raids on it bw was clear no raids planed .

Am I theonly that that not want a booking system for TG?
EVERQUEST 4 TEHWIN

pp gm agreed to the idea of posting guild raids on the calender if pp failed to do so that is there problem.

Appearently its your problem next time raids crash

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why did pp refuse are thay to good to join in with the rest of the realm is that why thay refused to merge your better than all the rest

Did i ever claim so? For your information, we are not.
I just wanted to go down with my friends in the guild for some nice hunting.

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well if thats the case then you must be good enought to solo dr

another threat banning PP from future DRs ?

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at no point did i say you could not go on tg it was you who surgested i canciled my planed raid and when i refused you got stropy i made u an offer to merge you refused

You told me that you would be stealing the mobs we attacked, and do what you could do destroy my raid. Thats childish enough for me.


as for the rules well pp gm was in the meeting pp gms agreed to post any guild raids

Btw, heres your chance. NP and SoP was in TG when u started your raid. have you flamed them too for breaking the rules.

Maybe i should just mail the screenshots to goa about the volunteershit, and that you would be hitting and stealing our mobs. Getting so tired of it.

Thank you for destroying a great evening for the guild

 

[Zanbatou]

im planning a solo Spindel Raid 15aug
stay away kthxbye

 

[Whoodoo_RD]

I was gonna flame ruath here, but I think its a waste of good typing.

Can I book to log into my account next week, any time after 6pm GMT would be nice.

Oh and how much you want to rent Malmohus for a day too, i see your app for a toll booth there...

etc etc etc etc

 

[Runolaz]

Makes me kind of sad that ppl can't play together.

As for Ruathian he has done a lot for many Mids, but not awlays have he choosen the rigth way to go about things, but hey who's perfect.

I was not there, but IMHO both parties should take some of the blame. It would have been much easier if you had all merged IMO, but having said that I do not support Ruathian in what he later said/did.

For the future, we have 2 alliances in Mid and most guilds that can arrange hunts in TG are in one of them. So it would be much easier if ppl posted either on BW or used the callender on the FoM site - should choose one of them as the "rigth" place to post though. I think the callender is much better, cuz post booking TG hunts tends to drown among other posts.

Now kiss and make up plz, cuz we don't need such tention in Midgard.

PS! Ruathian, as a side note. Both BB and PP are good guilds and I will never attend a raid were a raidorg. bans these 2 guilds from coming. I hope you only said this in frustration, cuz I think a lot of peeps don't agree with you on this.

 

[Danamyr]

Perhaps someone can explain this to me - WTF do you have to book a XP spot at all? Surely there must be enough mobs for everyone?

I really am trying to put this into a context I can understand - comparing it perhaps to Tur Suil in Hib. A dungeon with loads of bosses that you run around and kill.

If that's what TG is like, all you need to do is follow the first group once the mobs have repopped, it's not difficult

 

[noaim]

Originally posted by Danamyr
Perhaps someone can explain this to me - WTF do you have to book a XP spot at all? Surely there must be enough mobs for everyone?

I really am trying to put this into a context I can understand - comparing it perhaps to Tur Suil in Hib. A dungeon with loads of bosses that you run around and kill.

If that's what TG is like, all you need to do is follow the first group once the mobs have repopped, it's not difficult

I think the problem is the 12 hour respawntime

 

[Danamyr]

Originally posted by noaim
I think the problem is the 12 hour respawntime

Wow! OK - I'll STFU

Point made and understood

Use the FoM Calender then

 

[[RD]Ignious]

FAO: Rauth /cry more gimp!

 

[AbPoon]

Comon peeps just lay off him will you, getting lame this is

 

[speshneeds]

rua is a liar.. end of story


wouldnt go on his raids even i was guarenteed uber drops tbh.

 

[svartmetall]

Threads like this make me want to leave Midgard.

 

[Thelion]

Originally posted by svartmetall
Threads like this make me want to leave Midgard.

k

 

[ormagaa]

Originally posted by svartmetall
Threads like this make me want to leave Midgard.

So I should shut up about the current situation.

THIS my fellow midgardians, is a new step into the future of this game. Shall we, like in EQ have a bookingsystem of TG or not?

My personal oppinion is No.

 

[kaod]

Originally posted by svartmetall
Threads like this make me want to leave Midgard.

Not pointing the finger at you Svart, but there's a whole load of people in Midgard these days (seems to be getting worse) that makes a lot of people feel like that.

My problem with this thread is that people don't seem to be judging the situation on it's own merit - just whether they hate or love Rua and going with that.

 

[bjaadi-]

TG is for all at any time/day its all about respect for one and another, if someone sais they gonna have araid... if you got some sense you dont go to tg that day... ie you cant claim tg

and ruathian... yes he has done shitloads for midgard.. and its great, but you cant treat ppl how you see fit just because of that..
and you ppl that say dont flame him its getting old etc... you think its ok to do as he said to follow a group of ppl to tg and leech of there mobs just cause he couldnt get his raid together... and to ban BBs of hes raids dragon etc is just pure bs, just to state that made me pissed, so i wont come to any of your raids...(not so great loss etc but thats how i feel)

just cause your important doesnt mean you can do whatever you want... i always had respect for you rua.. i got none left

 

[osy]

Originally posted by AbPoon
Comon peeps just lay off him will you, getting lame this is

With all due respect Poon, you don't know the guy. Or is it that control freaks back-up each other, lately ?

 

[raithian]

with regards to bb on dr raids why should 1 person play 2 chars on a dr he cant operate both proper;ly ever dr raid i run i had to turn ppl down then to see some shamans just standing there not resing not giving end and dam adds when there asked wtf is the point in taking a bb to be used by only 1 person when ppl are turned away your taking up a spot that someone els can use so as i said after last dr where 3 shamans stodd in the corner only resung and buffy ppl from there own guild and refusing to buff others no more bb permited.
i just dont see the point if thay refuse to buff all who ask.

and bjaadi you missing the facts here pp claimed to have a tg planed 1 and a half weeks ago yet i was informed 15 mins before a raid that was posted on bw that thay was going there and would i there fore cancil the public raid i refused to cancil as pp did not as thay agreed post it on fom calender.
i made pp an offer to merg both teams thay refused if as you claim tg is free then why was i asked to cancil we all no that the named mobs take upto 8 hours to repop and i agree no one should claim tg but when a raid is posted on bw to then tell the raid planer 15 mins before raid due to start "o you cant go tg i have a guild raid there soon" was both pathetic and stupid pp had same rights to raid tg as did the raid i was doing if thay realy wanted to raid tg then why did thay refiuse to merge the 2 groups.with the new parry system with mobs tg named are about 25-30% harder to kill than before so 2 fg cant do much unless your all rr6+.

i got mad at pp when thay surgested i cancil my raid to alow them to go there instead so i returned the faver and said no either merge or pp cancil .
it was pp who mention canciling raids( my raid) i just asked them the same question thay asked me and now i am being slaged off for asking the same question thay asked.
what i do i do for realm 18 tg raids 8 dr raids 12 legion raids over 70p raised from my raids for alliance funds.
and all i have from all those raids is 2 respec stones 2 tg items i claimed out of 18 raids so to those that flame 1 short saying


ITS A GAME NOT LIFE AND DEATH BUT ONLY A GAME

now question if ppl had planed the raid weeks ago why did thay wait untill 15 mins before raid to say somthing why not say when thay read my post about it why not say somthing hours before and not when ppl had gathered at hagall rdy to go
also why did pp refuse to merge the 2 teams then every one would have been happy
2 questions its that simple pp new about my raid on that night yet did not say anything untill 15 mins before raid was due to start WHY

 

[raithian]

Originally posted by ormagaa
So I should shut up about the current situation.

THIS my fellow midgardians, is a new step into the future of this game. Shall we, like in EQ have a bookingsystem of TG or not?

My personal oppinion is No.

the booking system was agreed by all gms at a meeting to prevent raids clashing and to maxermise tg to its upmost alowing mid to get better and stronger
to me it seams reasonable and simple for a guild to post there intention to raid tg at a set date it then alows other guilds to say ok pp going there monday we go there tuesday instead or you end up with a guild going there 2 hours before pp and all the mobs dead if your happy to go all the way to tg and find out that all named been killed 2 hours before god thats so sad and as your not gm of pp and was not at the meeting what you think does not realy matter pp gm agreed to the idea that guilds post plans for tg raids on fom calender to prevent any raid clashes if you disagree with that talk to your gm .
you screwwed up an offer of a joint raid was made to arepa he informed y=me no pp was going solo i just informed you that i would not cancil the raid as you surgested to alow pp to go there i informed you that we was leaving in 15 mins our aim was councilers only as it turned out the same mobs you wanted no suprise there we was rdy beofre you we left with in 5 kins of the start time posted on bw so go cry me a river and next time dont upset ppl by surgesting thay cancil there raids to alow you to go 15 mins before raid time

 

[Urme the Legend]

I want to make one thing clear here.. the only things _non_ LFOM members can write in the calender are hunts for the _realm_ and LFOM can write both alliance and realm hunts in the calender on FoM forum. NO guild should sign up guild hunts on that calender! (except FoM of course but only FoM members can see those hunts)

So don't use the calender to sign up guild things! That would only be confusing, but realm/lfom alliance activity like TG, DR raids that everyone can sign up for is more then welcome in that calender.

It happened now and will happen in the future that two TG raids will be at the same time etc. That is almost impossible to avoid, but you can make the life easier to sign up realm/alliance hunts in time.. atleast 2 days before in the calender!

Happy hunting!

 

[heimer-pp]

Originally posted by raithian
the booking system was agreed by all gms at a meeting to prevent raids clashing and to maxermise tg to its upmost alowing mid to get better and stronger
to me it seams reasonable and simple for a guild to post there intention to raid tg at a set date it then alows other guilds to say ok pp going there monday we go there tuesday instead or you end up with a guild going there 2 hours before pp and all the mobs dead if your happy to go all the way to tg and find out that all named been killed 2 hours before god thats so sad and as your not gm of pp and was not at the meeting what you think does not realy matter pp gm agreed to the idea that guilds post plans for tg raids on fom calender to prevent any raid clashes if you disagree with that talk to your gm .
you screwwed up an offer of a joint raid was made to arepa he informed y=me no pp was going solo i just informed you that i would not cancil the raid as you surgested to alow pp to go there i informed you that we was leaving in 15 mins our aim was councilers only as it turned out the same mobs you wanted no suprise there we was rdy beofre you we left with in 5 kins of the start time posted on bw so go cry me a river and next time dont upset ppl by surgesting thay cancil there raids to alow you to go 15 mins before raid time

Did you miss Oddgeir's post somehow?
Here, let me quote what he said:

Originally posted by Oddgeir
Well neither I nor Heimer (as being GM's of PP) have ever been on any meeting where this have been decided. We have never even heard of this.
So it is NOT a fact that all guilds have agreed to this. And it's a damn lie that PP GM agreed to anything. You should get your facts straight mister.

And if you try to comprehend what Ormagaa/Tiny is saying in his first post before you come here mouthfarting with the same crap over and over again, you'll get the answer to WHY he didn't want to merge and WHY you were told so late.


Hrm, I can't figure out what the buffbot issue has to do with this

 

[ormagaa]

Originally posted by raithian
with regards to bb on dr raids why should 1 person play 2 chars on a dr he cant operate both proper;ly ever dr raid i run i had to turn ppl down then to see some shamans just standing there not resing not giving end and dam adds when there asked wtf is the point in taking a bb to be used by only 1 person when ppl are turned away your taking up a spot that someone els can use so as i said after last dr where 3 shamans stodd in the corner only resung and buffy ppl from there own guild and refusing to buff others no more bb permited.
i just dont see the point if thay refuse to buff all who ask.

WTF has this to do about my post and TG?
Im not interested in how you run your Dragonraids, cause im not going on them anymore. And banning a guild from a raid cause 1 or 2 ppl fuck up, is that the right way?

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and bjaadi you missing the facts here pp claimed to have a tg planed 1 and a half weeks ago yet i was informed 15 mins before a raid that was posted on bw that thay was going there and would i there fore cancil the public raid i refused to cancil as pp did not as thay agreed post it on fom calender.

If you read Urmes post raithian, he tells that guilds are not allowed to book TG on FoMs calendar. Is this something that you have dreamed about. Or why does foms officeres say that what you are saying isnt true. We did never post on bw that we were going to TG, so that is a lie. And PP never agreed on a booking system of TG. That is a lie. Guilds shall not book TG on foms calendar, as fom say themselves, so we cant!. Having a meeting about this, is also a big lie, as Urme sais it isn't true.


pp had same rights to raid tg as did the raid i was doing if thay realy wanted to raid tg then why did thay refiuse to merge the 2 groups.
Because your acting as a child and leaving us with 3 possibilities.
1. goto TG and you will hit all mobs we attack 2. merge with you 3. cancel our raid.

i got mad at pp when thay surgested i cancil my raid to alow them to go there instead so i returned the faver and said no either merge or pp cancil .

yet again, are you the king of this server and can tell everyone what to do?


what i do i do for realm 18 tg raids 8 dr raids 12 legion raids over 70p raised from my raids for alliance funds.
and all i have from all those raids is 2 respec stones 2 tg items i claimed out of 18 raids so to those that flame 1 short saying

I know raithian, from my experience with you, so as bjaadi, i had respect for your raids, but i have none left.

ITS A GAME NOT LIFE AND DEATH BUT ONLY A GAME

You raithian is the one that started acting like a child in our discussion, and said you would be hitting our mobs, if we would go to TG.

now question if ppl had planed the raid weeks ago why did thay wait untill 15 mins before raid to say somthing why not say when thay read my post about it why not say somthing hours before and not when ppl had gathered at hagall rdy to go

1. I still dont agree with your bookingsystem of TG, and never the less i have never heard about it.
2. That post you did on bw, is in my eyes official TGraid.


so why did pp refuse to merge the 2 teams then every one would have been happy

I have already answered why i did not want to merge with you 3 times, and if you can read, then scroll to my first and second and third post, then you will know.


2 questions its that simple pp new about my raid on that night yet did not say anything untill 15 mins before raid was due to start WHY

I didnt know anything about your raid, until you showed up in Hagall. Sorry friend. I dont read all posts on barrysworld. Therefor I didnt know about your raid, and i say again, IF i had known this for more than 1 week ago, id choose another date.
YOU were the one that pm:ed ProPatria about that you were having a raid, and we couldnt.


Now, please read my last answer and answer my questions, in this post, you have no new facts at all, except that you have done 18 TG raids. Read through my last post again, answer and comment my questions for you.


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From the first you say you "booked" TG for one week ago, you did not.
You said you mailed a fom officer about it. You did not.

 

[Thelion]

You need to reschool badly little pal. You dont even have trouble writing, you have trouble reading and understanding aswell. My suggestion is that you stop play daoc all days and get back to school.

Originally posted by raithian
and bjaadi you missing the facts here pp claimed to have a tg planed 1 and a half weeks ago yet i was informed 15 mins before a raid that was posted on bw that thay was going there and would i there fore cancil the public raid i refused to cancil as pp did not as thay agreed post it on fom calender.

First of all.. HOW THE HELL are ppl suppose to see that descret post that you wrote on BW about your little TG raid? And why didn't you booked your raid on the FoM calender if u had agreed to it?

Second of all.. If you can read and understand (fact sais you can't) BUT Oddgeir wrote that we hasn't agreed to anything about booking up on the FoM calender. We didn't even heard anything about such meeting.

Originally posted by raithian
i made pp an offer to merg both teams thay refused if as you claim tg is free then why was i asked to cancil we all no that the named mobs take upto 8 hours to repop and i agree no one should claim tg but when a raid is posted on bw to then tell the raid planer 15 mins before raid due to start "o you cant go tg i have a guild raid there soon" was both pathetic and stupid pp had same rights to raid tg as did the raid i was doing if thay realy wanted to raid tg then why did thay refiuse to merge the 2 groups.

I don't think that you would share your cookie if someone just told you that they will eat it up if u didn't chared it. As the mather of fact I don't think many people would like to merge if you get threated that "if you dont merge that I say I will steal all your mobs and will ban you from all my future DR and TG raid. I dont know how you walers are (no offence) but in sweden we dont take any crap. Live and learn.

Originally posted by raithian

i got mad at pp when thay surgested i cancil my raid to alow them to go there instead so i returned the faver and said no either merge or pp cancil .

Not much thruth in that like the rest of your crap talk.

Originally posted by raithian

now question if ppl had planed the raid weeks ago why did thay wait untill 15 mins before raid to say somthing why not say when thay read my post about it why not say somthing hours before and not when ppl had gathered at hagall rdy to go

No one saw your little descret post because it doesn't sais anything about a TG raid planned in the headline. So why necesserely read it if you get a headache trying to read what comes from you.

Originally posted by raithian

also why did pp refuse to merge the 2 teams then every one would have been happy
2 questions its that simple pp new about my raid on that night yet did not say anything untill 15 mins before raid was due to start WHY

As I said, don't think many people would accept to merge under threatening.

And as I said before.. We didn't knew anything about your raid. But if we knew, well we are good people, we would have spoken to you as we did with NP and Snakes of Panaker about how many lords they would take. They where there before our raid so we asked them how many, and what lords they was going to take. They told us that they was going to take 4 lords and we asked if it was ok if we took the rest of them. And we made an agreement.

Originally posted by raithian

thats so sad and as your not gm of pp and was not at the meeting what you think does not realy matter pp gm agreed to the idea that guilds post plans for tg raids on fom calender to prevent any raid clashes if you disagree with that talk to your gm .

I think Oddgeir as our GM knows better than you if we agreed to it or not. And please do u know what a "dot" is?

Originally posted by raithian

you screwwed up an offer of a joint

I dont smoke that crap

Originally posted by raithian

arepa he informed y=me no pp was going solo

Well we had a guild hunt. And was arepa intended to explain to you was that we wasn't there yo join your hunt we where there on our own. Next time you maybe should ask for the huntleader before messaging people around. Then no missunderstanding.

Originally posted by raithian

no suprise there we was rdy beofre you we left with in 5 kins of the start time posted on bw so go cry me a river and next time dont upset ppl by surgesting thay cancil there raids to alow you to go 15 mins before raid time

I read that 3 times. We where ready to move, but our huntleader had other intensions.

 

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Originally posted by raithian
with regards to bb on dr raids why should 1 person play 2 chars on a dr he cant operate both proper;ly ever dr raid i run i had to turn ppl down then to see some shamans just standing there not resing not giving end and dam adds when there asked wtf is the point in taking a bb to be used by only 1 person when ppl are turned away your taking up a spot that someone els can use so as i said after last dr where 3 shamans stodd in the corner only resung and buffy ppl from there own guild and refusing to buff others no more bb permited.
i just dont see the point if thay refuse to buff all who ask.

you threatend to ban BANANNA BUNNIES my guild that Tinyheals/Ormagaa is a part of... i couldnt care less about buffbots, they have no place on raids.

ITS A GAME NOT LIFE AND DEATH BUT ONLY A GAME

this is also a statement that i dont like... yeah its a game but its a mmrpog, its still "real" ppl thats in the game...