The Future of RvR

[dazam]

As i see it atm, (this is not a whine so i will mention no realm names)

Logging on first thing i se on alliance 130 invaders at amg i do i /who emain see 7 ppl there i think well hmmm i dont wanna waste my time goin there givin the invader 1 rp each makin them uber strong . SO i will log my alts go Bg1 or maybe wonder around another realm.
Zerging in those numbers cannot be fun for any realm
1) because of the lag
2) because of the lack of competition

So in 1.54 you can duel ppl of ur realm, hmmm 130 vs 8 or 1v1 fun in ur own realm, The more zerg the less ppl will go an in 1.54 it might stop completely it will for me if it does.

Just somthin for all of u to think about....

 

[Tigerius]

"We are the borg..."

Actually, no, we're really not. We're just all the players who chose to jump in the boat with a fancy knight on not realising this would bring us down a path of gimped CCness, several nerfbats and utter zergage.

I don't know what your intentions are here but it seems you are trying to speak to the Alb collective, to try and affect the sheep mentality that crowded the 100 people together in the first place. Everyone just wants a good time in RvR, what a good time is can be argued but anyway, and you can't ask people as a collective to stop doing a certain thing because of it's greater effects. Which 50 are the glad ones allowed into Emain and which 50 are exiled into a cold and empty Odins? You can't expect individuals in a game to take a collective responsibility :/

Maybe you should rethink what YOU can do to attract RvR actions to other places than Emain? I'm for one certainly up for RvRing elsewhere, I always have been and commonly spend an while in other zones but right now it's undeniable that in comparison to emain they are ghost towns.

 

[dazam]

i agree emain is Boring there is no challenge i would rather duel a person then zerg Anyone wanna Duel best outta 3 just pm me i will be there cause nethin is better than zergs :/ Or maybe 1fg vs 1fg could be arranged

 

[skile]

Again, what is that u guys want? Us not being allowed to Rvsr?

 

[Danya]

Use the other frontiers. You don't have to zerg emain you know.

Had some good RvR in odin's and even Breifine. Never had good RvR in emain.

 

[Ensceptifica]

Originally posted by skile
Again, what is that u guys want? Us not being allowed to Rvsr?

I'd like more albs to consider other places to RvR. Instead of logging on and jumping on the pad to Emain with 60 mates, just run out and discover your own frontier with a group or 2. Maybe you won't drown in action right away, but once it gets going -maybe challenge an enemy guild a couple of times on BW (hey I'll give that a try myself )- it will be a lot more fun than being one of 60 people rushing at 8 peeps hoping to get 1 hit in before they die.

 

[Tigerius]

This goes both ways though, all three ways even. Telling albs to spread out when the enemy will stay focused on the same place won't work, it might seem a bit more fun to you but it won't be to the albs in the alternative zones.

So, lets just agree to use Odins more shall we? I've never been opposed to ports there as they can be more fun but they can also be entirely unrewarding.

One thing I must admit to never understanding is why we port to Emain when we see the deathspam many times not 50 meters outside in Sauvage, but hey I'm just a buffbot now so who am I to decide or try to affect.

 

[AbPoon]

Dont tell em 2 bring the zerg to my frigging backyard :/

 

[Flimgoblin]

I like that dazam - if you can't go gank in emain, then you play alts - ever thought of porting somewhere else? or clearing out FC from the Gorge? It ain't just the Albs and Mids that need to go somewhere other than Emain

 

[alithiel50]

Originally posted by Fingoniel
I like that dazam - if you can't go gank in emain, then you play alts - ever thought of porting somewhere else? or clearing out FC from the Gorge? It ain't just the Albs and Mids that need to go somewhere other than Emain

Yes, please come out - in party's of 1-2 fg - and join us in our playground... Erm, Gorge that is....

We'd only be to happy to let you Hibs join in our fun and games

 

[-optical-]

Pretty simple tribone, go to Albion.

 

[appollo creed]

whats wrong with out and out zerg war ???, i quite like a mass free for all, survive and think: how the fuck am i still alive

 

[dazam]

yes all out free for all maybe u albs get all excited over 130 of u killin 1fg for me thats just pure gay but u persist in doing it ruining RvR for every1

 

[Aussie-]

don't you like the hidden nerf from mythic?

bindstone at sauvage

 

[Tiarta]

Originally posted by dazam
yes all out free for all maybe u albs get all excited over 130 of u killin 1fg for me thats just pure gay but u persist in doing it ruining RvR for every1

Have Hibs never zerged ? and camped AMG too ?

well for us to break through we have to build a bigger zerg, as simple as that.

and if u think rvr is ruined then i have some info for you - ssssh please keep it a secret though.

the info comes here - T H E R E is other places to rvr than Emain and the zergs is nearly nonexistant - But i have to keep it a secret otherwise the Z E R G might come there


p.s. try check Odins, uppland, HW & Sauvage (Hint Hint)

Best regards

 

[old.BJ|Bored]

+ a peak zerg times u virtually need to be at least 2fgs to get past the 12 odd stealthers between amg and apk.

 

[old.Odysseus]

If you dont like emain, why go there? Its a free country and theres lots of action in odins (my group got owned repeatedly by 2,3 or 4FG hibs/mids so its definately not desolate).

Now stop the whining and stop putting that hib necky on!

 

[Flimgoblin]

he is a hib so he has to run all the way from DL to get steamrolled - maybe he's not learned how to use the medallion merchant yet?

 

[Ensceptifica]

Originally posted by Tiarta
Have Hibs never zerged ? and camped AMG too ?

They have, but they never start out as a zerg. Several fg go to Emain. They don't move together. Then they get zerged by 3-4fg albs. Yes, because Albs, apart from an occasional guild group, never go as single groups. All realms zerg, but only hibs and sometimes mids also play as standalone fullgroups.

the info comes here - T H E R E is other places to rvr than Emain and the zergs is nearly nonexistant - But i have to keep it a secret otherwise the Z E R G might come there

p.s. try check Odins, uppland, HW & Sauvage (Hint Hint)

Last night, Benowyc switched owner 4 times in 30 minutes, I was hoping that would be a good hint that there was action in Hadrian's too. We ran into 2fg Mids taking Beno there, got killed, released and came back.... 3fg Albs !!! yayyyyy... but we were outnumbered and died. Mainly outnumbered coz our 3fg wasn't expecting albs, and so we fell 1 by 1. Ok, we knew we could do better than that, so we released, ported again, ran to Benowyc.... but no albs in sight ) : So we took Beno and moved on.

We ran to Sauvage, took Renaris, but... no albs.
Hurbury fell.... no albs.
Camped sauvage realmgate... Ah, 5 non-grouped albs (we were 2fg left), suiciding on us 6 times in a row.

Finally, with most peeps already planning on suiciding out of boredom, we get killed... by 2fg MIDS. Asking around where albs were -> Emain. I hope the majority of alb players likes zerging, because otherwise they're making it very boring for themselves. But we'll try again. We'll get you fighting in your own backyard yet (;

 

[old.Odysseus]

Yes, because Albs, apart from an occasional guild group, never go as single groups. All realms zerg, but only hibs and sometimes mids also play as standalone fullgroups.

bullshit
Pure and utter BS whining crap.

edit:
sorry for the rude choice of words, but think about Knights of Pendragon, DVE, GoL, HB, DK, RB just to mention a few that field at least one guildgroup continously from 1700 to 2400 every day.

 

[karlophin]

Well I also remember the days when I could stand at the alb mile gate in mid, talking to one or two people at most. Now even that place gets uber camped and it ends up with 2fg hibs. Yesterday I formed a cg and shouted out numerous times "Lets take Bleedmoor" Then the tumple weed passed.

Its not only that fact that the majority of the time albs seem to zerge, but standing around with those numbers is just silly. Come on hibs, this isn't our style. Next time we have those numbers lets go take a keep and get a good old fight going. Not following the repeatative pattern of..

1 Alb comes past gate... zerge him
3 Albs pass..... zerge them
1fg pass..... mez.... zerge

then as usual

4fg come through and kill us all.

 

[Ensceptifica]

Originally posted by old.Odysseus

bullshit
Pure and utter BS whining crap.

I've had some more time on my hands lately, and was able to play early in the morning. Even very early, when I get maybe a group of 6-8 to Emain, we get beaten by 2+ fg Albs. Very rarely we run into anything less. I've always been kind of neutral in this coz when I logged in at prime time, I saw people from all realms zerg, but having played more at different times now, it's very obvious that albs zerg at any time, regardless of the number of invaders. Guess it's unavoidable with Alb population though, so I wouldn't know what to do about it.

 

[old.Odysseus]

edited my post above.

Everyone zergs. To say that albs do nothing but zerg is outright wrong.

again: sorry for the rude language

 

[Ensceptifica]

Originally posted by karlophin
Well I also remember the days when I could stand at the alb mile gate in mid, talking to one or two people at most. Now even that place gets uber camped and it ends up with 2fg hibs. Yesterday I formed a cg and shouted out numerous times "Lets take Bleedmoor" Then the tumple weed passed.

Its not only that fact that the majority of the time albs seem to zerge, but standing around with those numbers is just silly. Come on hibs, this isn't our style. Next time we have those numbers lets go take a keep and get a good old fight going. Not following the repeatative pattern of..

1 Alb comes past gate... zerge him
3 Albs pass..... zerge them
1fg pass..... mez.... zerge

then as usual

4fg come through and kill us all.

Well yes, this is also true, and I try not to do it. If there's anything causing zergs, it's the amg bottleneck. If I lead a group, I go around it as far as possible. I look for action everywhere else first before we go and see what's at amg. Usually helps to have a cg that keeps eachother informed on things so you can support as quickly as possible without having to stick around all the time.

 

[Ensceptifica]

Originally posted by old.Odysseus
edited my post above.

Everyone zergs. To say that albs do nothing but zerg is outright wrong.

again: sorry for the rude language

Thank you ( ;

I'm sorry to jump the accusing y'all-can-only-zerg bandwagon. With the last bad experience still fresh in memory, I tend to exaggerate. Nothing-but is putting too extreme, but it certainly is true that it's seldom that you meet Albs in a number below the 16-24 range at any time. Ofcourse if there's more albs on the server, there will be more albs playing at any time, but the fact remains. I appreciate if some Alb guilds move out as 1-2 fg, and I wouldn't want that initiative to go to waste by some whinge of mine, so please do keep it up ( ; The guilds you've named don't ring a bell btw; I know FC peeps camp the gorge a lot, which is fun (even though it means my fellow hibbies die more often )': ), and if you could point out where and when I could run into 1-2fg of those other guilds, I'll try to put up a matching opposition (;

 

[old.Odysseus]

I'd say anywhere but emain would give you a fair chance of avoiding zerging action.

But when it comes down to it, what is a zerg? 2FG? 3FG? 4FG?
If you are travelling with 1FG, then 4FG certainly seems like a zerg, but really....

A "zerg" is, by my definition, a bunch of ppl with no proclaimed leadership that just follows the general direction of movement, just like a herd of sheep.
The number of ppl varies from some 20-30 and up.

I tend to hang around in Odins, Uppland and ofc Emain (sometimes with the zerg, sometimes away from it, im not religious about it or anything).

Emain is a place that ensures that you will run into a zerg within a short while.

 

[appollo creed]

Originally posted by old.Odysseus

bullshit
Pure and utter BS whining crap.

edit:
sorry for the rude choice of words, but think about Knights of Pendragon, DVE, GoL, HB, DK, RB just to mention a few that field at least one guildgroup continously from 1700 to 2400 every day.

Knights of Pendragon never field a full group, from 1700-2400.

This is because through there choice, they only have normally a max of 4 ppl online at peak times.

Are you mixing them up with Avengers ???