The fuck?!

[Novamir]

Q: In an old Grab Bag, you said that empathy did nothing for a bard, that only charisma mattered in terms of our power pool. I’ve tested this out, and while it is true that only charisma affects our power pool, empathy definitely affects something – the amount of direct damage we can do! Do you have any plans to change this so that our damage and our power are affected by the same stat?

A: You are absolutely correct, your damage is affected by empathy. I’m sorry my earlier answer was incomplete. There are no plans to make any changes at this time based on testing and feedback.

hahah, what a joke. they aren't gonna make bard's empathy have any use at all, and it's the secondary stat! such crap.

 

[old.Charonel]

that a quote from the ever so knowledgable sanya? sounds like one , you can usually tell by the "oops, i got my previous answer totally and completely wrong, wont happen again...much...honest!"

 

[Novamir]

Yep its in the latest grab bag.

 

[HargloweHyfryd]

But this changes it all again:


Dear Bards:
from Sanya Thomas
2002-10-21 13:52:14

Last Friday's Q&A on the bard, and the discussion that followed, has led us to make a small change to the bard:

For the bard class, charisma is the major stat. It affects the bard's power pool, and most of the bard's spells. The direct damage spell in the music line, however, was affected by empathy, not charisma.

We have decided to change this; instead of having that single exception to the rule, after the next patch, ALL bardic spells will be affected only by charisma. We wanted to let you know our intent in this matter before anyone started looking for empathy gear!

Thank you for your feedback.

 

[<Harle>]

Still Empathy is the secondary stat, rises every other lvl, is highlighted at character-creation and does (after that patch) nothing for a Bard

 

[Feldegast]

Well there's not that many bards at high lvl with high emp anyways, might aswell be happy that they put even more power into our cha stat. Just wish I could get those 35 base stat points back (10(start) + 25(lvl))

damn mythic..

 

[spankya]

Yay, thats good news My emp sucks, but my char is well maxed and the +10 char I put in when I made my char will help

 

[Keri]

If bards' second stat is Empathy, and it does nothing for us, I think all tanks should have Piety as their second stat.

Also, I hope this (changing DD dmg to be CHA based), means they will introduce more items with +CHA .. but I highly doubt it.

 

[llixeraxu]

Whats a grab bag

 

[Feldegast]

Keri beleive me you wont have any problems capping Cha @ 50

now if they could just make +nurture +music do something usefull

(damn bards are full of crappy pointless stats)

damn mythic

 

[<Harle>]

Every Friday you can find that 'grab bag' on www.camelotherald.com - it's a sort of question and answer session where a Mythic-employee (Sanya) answers some questions asked by players via mail (I think).

It's a nice source for information, although Sanya is not always 100% correct...

 

[Juanita]

Originally posted by &lt;Harle&gt;
It's a nice source for information, although Sanya is not always 100% correct...

I'd even start trusting The Register before i trust Sanya's info.

 

[SingerOfSoul]

just another fuckup

bah trust me to put 10con 10emp 10cha at start
first they say nope emp does nowt (yet its raises every 2 lvls!!!) then they say it does then they change it so it dont (but afaik still will raise every 2 lvls!!) make con a bards secondary stat and dex at a tertiary stat. could just imagine the extra 10 in con for a bard with already 1290hp unbuffed

 

[Torin]

Nothing strange with that .... Myth is got to that .... for example Friars - they have only Staff as weapon, which affected only by dex - and they have STR as main stat ...

 

[Kobold]

Think the ae insta mez makes up for that one

 

[SingerOfSoul]

kobold m8 tbh it dont rvr battles r half hour running round and 2 mins fighting only thing insta will do is stop ppl then just to see em purge

 

[old.Charonel]

er, do friars have a different staff setup than everyone else? i was told that staffs do damage based 100% on str for their stat damage modifier, not dex (although they do look dexterous when wielding them ), cha, qui, or even int!!!

anyway, if i'm wrong about this please say, i'm quite irritated if yet another mythic official tutorial is wrong like the siege weapons one

 

[sorusi]

just like paladins get piety - wich is useless, and friars not being able to be saracens when staffs are 100% dex .. :/ sure there are more classes that got these issues

I think you should be able to set these skills youself, if you want int on priamray or con or whatever...

 

[old.Charonel]

being able to make custom classes in this game would unbalance it beyond all proportions, only good way to do custom classes would be to get rid of ALL classes and simply decide what you want as your primary/secondary/tertiary stats, which lines to spec, etc... for EVERYONE, that way it's entirely down ot the player, some class TYPES would be better perhaps, but everyone has the ability to make exactly what they want, so if you get gimped it's simply because you kinda "specced" wrong so to speak.

 

[Danya]

All staffs are 100% dex charonel.

 

[Kobold]

Originally posted by SingerOfSoul
kobold m8 tbh it dont rvr battles r half hour running round and 2 mins fighting only thing insta will do is stop ppl then just to see em purge

true, and purge will be even more annoying when it get cheaper for all tank classes. But still...insta ae mez sounds kinda nasty, purge is on 30 min timer too you know

Remember when I played my bard...was allways confused about the charisma-emp thingy. I was told several times that emp=mana and char=chanse to success a mez. But turned out to be quite wrong...but who cares...dam I was good to play music

 

[Pin]

Originally posted by old.Charonel
being able to make custom classes in this game would unbalance it beyond all proportions, only good way to do custom classes would be to get rid of ALL classes and simply decide what you want as your primary/secondary/tertiary stats, which lines to spec, etc... for EVERYONE, that way it's entirely down ot the player, some class TYPES would be better perhaps, but everyone has the ability to make exactly what they want, so if you get gimped it's simply because you kinda "specced" wrong so to speak.

That would be great! Get my infi wielding a 6second polearm. 2000 point PAs here I come