The Fail(War) Z

[BloodOmen]

http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/12/24/the-war-zs-trademark-suspended-name-change-likely/

just keeps getting worse for War Z lol.

 

[Mabs]

<3

 

[BloodOmen]

haha

 

[Shagrat]

surely thats got to be fake. totally lol if its not!!!!

 

[Kryten]

Apparently it's not, nor does it surprise me.

 

[Ctuchik]

It's not faked, they ban people for the most retarded reasons.

 

[Ctuchik]

Interesting read. The OP claimed to be one of the mods on their official forum..

http://www.rhinocrunch.com/forum/ge...-rhino-you-were-right-about-warz?limitstart=0

 

[BloodOmen]

Interesting read. The OP claimed to be one of the mods on their official forum..

http://www.rhinocrunch.com/forum/ge...-rhino-you-were-right-about-warz?limitstart=0

I seen the video he made before that post, quite funny really the best part is definitely

"they plan to HALT DEVELOPMENT AND ABANDON THE GAME in SIX months if revenue is not enough for them (I.E. People are not buying GC and spending the fuck out of it) -- take note, if they do not get ENOUGH revenue. They will have enough revenue to pay for the game development for over a year at this point in time already, but if they don't get enough to give themselves regular raises they will stop making the game and shut down the servers and website."

 

[opticle]

• You have to pay to make the clan!
• The clan deletes itself after an hour!

..then having to pay more and more money to expand it to more players

Wtf is this shit ? What a joke. Who in their right mind would do that.

 

[Ctuchik]

He started backpedaling later on though. Apparently he's been offered a JOB at that fucking company and he seems to want it bad enough... >.<

 

[BloodOmen]

Wtf is this shit ? What a joke. Who in their right mind would do that.

Stupid cunts that are too arrogant to realize they're being ripped off? thus continue defending the game in all its "Glory"

 

[opticle]

He started backpedaling later on though. Apparently he's been offered a JOB at that fucking company and he seems to want it bad enough... >.<

What does it say about the job ? Can't find that. Pathetic people out there.

 

[Ctuchik]

It's pretty far down the thread, think it was on page 6 or 7.

 

[BloodOmen]

http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/1...-producer-blames-problems-on-the-games-succe/

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHHAHAAAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA *takes a breath* AHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

 

[WiZe^]

"Open Letter from Hammerpoint Interactive to The War Z community"

Dear fellow Survivors,

It has now been more than two months since we launched public access to The War Z. We’ve definitely had our ups and downs, and I thought that this Holiday break was the right time for me to try to step back a little and think about our journey since it started. This may be a little long, but I would appreciate if you could stay with me for a few minutes as I try to go over the highlights of the game as well as some of the hurdles and controversies, how we have addressed that and what our plans are.

First of all a very big and sincere “Thank You!” to all of you. We are really proud of the community we have formed with you guys. Every day we have hundreds of thousands of players on our servers, and this is a life-changing event for the team and me. We are blessed to have you as members of the community and we are well aware that without you the game would be nothing. Along with that thanks, though, I need to admit that we failed to effectively communicate some of our plans and actions to both our existing players and to our new prospective players. This failure to communicate resulted in some very negative feedback from some members of our community, but while it might be easy to label them as “haters” or some other dismissive term, in all honesty this is my fault. I became arrogant and blinded by the early success and quick growth of The War Z, our increasing number of players, numbers we were getting from surveys, etc., and I chose not to notice the concerns and questions raised by these members of the game community as well as others. This failure is entirely on my shoulders and if anything I owe thanks to that vocal minority and admit that I should have paid attention sooner. I chose instead to concentrate on the bigger picture – my dream of turning The War Z from being a game developed by a small indie team into a large online venture, instead of addressing small things first and staying focused on the game issues. At the end my arrogance led us to the moment, when all those small things finally caught up and created a “perfect storm” that affected all of our community members. For that I’m truly sorry and apologize to all of our community as well as the larger PC gaming community that is not yet playing The War Z.

I do not take this situation lightly, and last week events were especially humbling for me. I’ve experienced a range of emotions, most of which centered on regret for not having addressed some of the issues differently than we did, but we can’t change the past. The only thing we can do is to be sure that we won’t repeat the same mistakes in the future. I have realized that as the leader of this ship, I missed all early warnings that were saying, “Your community is not as happy as you think they are, you need to alter course.” I was too focused on how great we are and how a small independent team got their first game to over 700,000 users in a two-month period. Though that is something to be very proud of, allowing that to overshadow the existing community and their satisfaction was poor judgment.

I want to give you some insight into what our plans are for the future, but before we get to that, I’d like to clear the air with you on several important topics.

Community management and moderation – the problem
Even since the early Alpha launch, this game has always cultivated a large and loyal player base that is very active in the game. Again, thank you for this. Unfortunately, we weren’t prepared for this large success and the way we managed the community was not the way it should’ve been. We relied too much on forum moderators, whose primary role was to punish those who break rules, not to engage the community and guide conversations into productive discussions about problems. There wasn’t enough presence of the development team on forums, there wasn’t enough updates on development of UPCOMING features. We failed to communicate our position and messaging on the outside platforms such as Facebook, twitter and various online websites, and when we did this we chose to rely more on arrogance rather than being humble and trying to understand why people were saying negative things. We chose to tune out negative reactions to the game, not paying enough attention to them – and this, again, is my fault. We chose to rely too much on numbers – percentage of refund requests, number and dynamic of our daily and monthly active users, etc. Well, in hindsight – those things probably work well for more casual games, but the hardcore PC gaming community is much different and can be very vocal about what they feel. Even when the percentage of players with negative comments is small, as the community grows, even a small percentage can add up to be a very significant absolute number. And it’s not just a number – those are real people with real issues they are having with the game. OP Productions (publisher for War Z) and me personally have failed to address those issues effectively.

Community management and moderation – the solution!
We’re changing our community management procedures and rules right now. We’re going to reevaluate publishing and marketing team performance, and I will make sure that Hammerpoint Interactive developers will have a much stronger voice when it comes to community management and we won’t rely 100% on OP Productions to single handedly handle this. Lots of changes will be happening very fast in the weeks to come. One of the ideas that I proposed was to select 10 players from around the world who can represent the player community and invite them to our offices in Los Angeles, to meet the team, check out what we’re doing, and share with actual developers their concerns, wishes and thoughts on the game. We also will involve community, to a much higher degree, in the process of making our next map for the War Z (called “California”). We’ll be discussing many of the aspects of the map with you and asking for feedback.

We’re revisiting our forum policies; we’re going to bring on an additional community management team, additional moderators and we’ll train them how to respond to things properly. There will still be restrictions on harassment, trash talk, etc. But we’ll make sure that every opinion is heard. At the same time, I must also be cautious: we cannot address all issues and there cannot be only one voice. Please accept that. With hundreds of thousands of players playing, talking, chatting, voicing their strong opinions, there will always be diverging opinions. And some issues that are minor ones are sometimes brought to light by very vocal channels. I would even say there is sometimes a beginning of controversy because the game is now so popular. So there is sometimes a distortion between the severity of the issue and the attention it gets. But we will clearly implement steps to better listen to the community.


What is Foundation Release?
The most asked question of the last week was “is this the final release?” My answer has always been that for an online game a “final” release means that the game is dead – so there’s really no such thing, you never stop developing, making changes to and adding new features to the game. This is how we came to call the current version of The War Z “Foundation Release.” We launched the Foundation Release on December 17, 2012 as our first-stage release that we use as a foundation to build upon. It does include the core features and a fully playable environment. This is our version 1.0, and of course we will continue to improve that version as time goes on. Did we rush to get it done? That is a tough question, but to answer honestly I think that we all pushed very hard to be first to market and in time for the holidays. Our entire team was working late, long hours to iron out issues and include as many features as possible. This is part of the reality of being a smaller, independent game developer. If we had a larger team and more funding we may have done things differently, but I’m not sure. I don’t think it was a mistake because our numbers have been strong since day one and, even with the recent negativity, our metrics are really solid and we’ve been continuing to grow. The negative opinions are always the most vocal, but most players are really enjoying the game and we’ve been attracting more and more daily active players every week. A lot of the gaming journalists that have been playing the game have also given us some great feedback. I realize that we will take a few hits from some of the traditional gaming press in terms of review scores, but I’m hoping that even they will consider that this game is a living project that will continue to evolve as time goes on. We are very proud of our Foundation Release, and we do stand behind it like we have stood behind any previous version.

What’s on the Horizon?
As for what will happen next with The War Z? We’re currently evaluating the relationship between Hammerpoint and OP Productions. I firmly believe that Hammerpoint should be playing a more prominent role in publishing/game operating process. We’re in a process of adding new key members to our team, bringing on guys who have much more experience operating and growing successful online games and I know this is going to make a huge difference in terms of development. We’ll be making some big decisions in terms of leadership for both companies and I will personally change how I handle many things. Above all we will continue to develop and make this game the best that it can be.

I know that to some people my words won’t matter much. I understand that. I hope that will change as we move forward and deliver the features that our players have been waiting for. I can promise you that from now on things will be much more transparent, and we’ll provide better communication and engage our community to discuss upcoming features way before they appear in the game.

I do believe that we aren’t even close to uncovering the true potential for The War Z, and I hope that in the coming year, we’ll be able to regain trust from people who were alienated by our actions and we’ll be able to move forward and grow the game together.

Thank you for reading all this, thank you for supporting the game and thank you for helping us to change and realize what’s important as well as what is not.

I hope you are all having a happy holiday and I wish you the best for the New Year!

Sincerely,

Sergey Titov
Executive Producer, The War Z

 

[rynnor]

What a trainwreck - wont see these guys again in the gaming industry.

Edit - according to this the Trademark was suspended on November 15th - long before the launch.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/121257-USPTO-Suspends-The-War-Z-Trademark

 

[BloodOmen]

Hundreds of thousands of users my arse, if they had hundreds of thousands of users they'd have the revenue to implement changes/fixes/graphical increases 100000000000000000000000000000x faster than they are, i'd wager my life savings they wont even have 80000 active users.

 

[fettoken]

I've bought crappier games for 15 dollars. Has been fun running around scavenging with a few buds, finding weapons, kicking some ass and so on. Not the best money i spent. Tho, i ate dinner yesternight that cost me the same amount. Not worth it at all.

 

[fettoken]

See, do you see my point that i am trying lay forward here? Man up, move forward.

 

[old.Osy]

See, do you see my point that i am trying lay forward here? Man up, move forward.

How do you feel about slimfit jeans and scarfs?

 

[fettoken]

Son, you are talking out of your ass now.

 

[BloodOmen]

Are you actually trying to defend WarZ? please see a psychiatrist.

 

[fettoken]

I am not defending the game, or the devs. It is nothing to get all worked up about. You play the game or you dont.

 

[old.Osy]

Eh, no hard feelings - it's like when you have some friendly banter aimed at that mate that stepped into the gaybar and was clueless until Bubba asked him to dance.

 

[fettoken]

I've done that once in my life. 4 years ago Lesson learnt. Club was named Sidetracked. Fitting name.

 

[Raven]

Me and a mate went to a gay bar by mistake once, suffice to say we didn't finish our drink.

 

[Mabs]

Me and a mate went to a gay bar by mistake once, suffice to say we didn't finish our drink.

you pulled that quickly ? result!

 

[old.Tohtori]

Weird paranoia about gay bars going on here

 

[old.Osy]

Talk about gay bars, Toht makes an appearance. Coincidence?

 

[TdC]

you pulled that quickly ? result!

you're assuming Raven's the puller. never assume anything!