The end is nigh.

[old.mattshanes]

Max you think that's bad you should see the whining of mids of the left axe nerf on usa servers

 

[maxgirth]

Originally posted by old.mattshanes
Max you think that's bad you should see the whining of mids of the left axe nerf on usa servers

LOL, I bet, but think of the reduction in friendly fire deaths it will cut down on.

 

[minstrel_kyra]

I think you guys are missing the whole point here.

When we were given our Epic armor we were told that it would last indefinately. To me, this means for a very very long time and this just isn't the case. To replace af 100 chain qual 100% is very costly. Yes MP's are meant to be rare and that is fine, but I agree with Max that to make up for that our epic armor should last longer. We should be able to turn it in for a new set when the durability gets down to say 25% or so. I think this would be a good exchange and take the pressure off our crafters.


Maybe to some people 20 plat isn't a lot, but to me it is. That means I have to do a whole lot of hunting to afford it. (esp for someone who never has more than 2p of her own money on her char.) For an example, think of it this way: One breast plate costs 22 diamond seals. Before patch (I haven't trinketed bp's since then so I don't know how much its changed yet) one bp would yield 146 asterite bars. Divide that by 2 (2 bars=1 hinge) and you get 73 hinges. Multiply that by 4.5 = 328.5 gold. To make over a plat you need to earn enough seals for 4 bp and then spend your whole evening at the forge. Now for me, this is not fun. To earn 20 plat (again figures are pre-patch) you need to get about 60 bp's to salvage and trinket!!

My reason for becoming a crafter was to help my guildmates. Nothing is more pleasing than to know something you created is so appreciated. It was not so that you could spend your free time trinketing while your friends go off and have fun. Even with my metalworking at nearly 950, it still takes time. It does help that I can make the leather for my chain items but still its costly.

Max, I know you are tired of all of this and I can respect your reasons (and the other reasons you gave me but didn't mention in this thread). I hope you stay but I wouldn't blame you if you didn't.

I wish you luck with whatever you do next.

 

[Danya]

Items wear too damn fast in this game. If you have a MP quality item, you don't want it burned out in a couple of months.

 

[Addlcove]

they should implement a

"give epic armor to class trainer in camelot when dur% is less than 5% and get new set in exchange"

function

P.S. oh and meatball it´s P.P.P.(*N).S not P.S.S.S.(*N).S

 

[maxgirth]

Originally posted by Danyan
Items wear too damn fast in this game. If you have a MP quality item, you don't want it burned out in a couple of months.

Agreed, life after 50 is increasingly getting harder,are they trying to encourage us to roll alts?, with maybe a buffbot thrown in for good measure.

 

[Sagba]

Originally posted by minstrel_kyra
I think you guys are missing the whole point here.

When we were given our Epic armor we were told that it would last indefinately. To me, this means for a very very long time and this just isn't the case. To replace af 100 chain qual 100% is very costly. Yes MP's are meant to be rare and that is fine, but I agree with Max that to make up for that our epic armor should last longer. We should be able to turn it in for a new set when the durability gets down to say 25% or so. I think this would be a good exchange and take the pressure off our crafters.

Stats on Minstrel Epic Armour:

Stats:
Str: 28 Int: 0 Hits: 39
Con: 50 Pie: 0 Power: 8
Dex: 47 Cha: 18
Qui: 27 Emp: 0

Resists:
Body: 16 Energy: 14 Crush: 16
Cold: 14 Matter: 0 Thrust: 8
Heat: 16 Spirit: 0 Slash: 8

Not that bad really. Just too much Con and body resist.

Stats on crafted (without overcharging) AF102 99% set:

Stats:
Str: 23 Int: 0 Hits: 36
Con: 45 Pie: 0 Power: 7
Dex: 42 Cha: 16
Qui: 19 Emp: 0

Resists:
Body: 14 Energy: 14 Crush: 14
Cold: 14 Matter: 0 Thrust: 7
Heat: 14 Spirit: 0 Slash: 7

I haven't done Minstrel SC templates but I'm pretty sure you will have way too much body resist and constition if you try to use good jewelry with Epic Armour--> 99% crafted set will be better. I had 151 Constitution from items with my armsman when I used Epic set. That's 76pts too much

How about Wizard for example? I have +fire and +earth on my Epic set and as a Ice Wizzie I really dont need it. Using pretty crap jewelry atm and still have too much Int. With spellcrafted armour I can get stats/resists/etc that I'm missing from jewelry.

So far I have used 8.5plat for Sagba's armour set and got 5 MPs. That is more than enough to cap everything and will be even easier in every new patch as Mythic seems to give us new uber jewelry. In 1.61 I could cap everything leaving one armour part clean if I use full MP set and MP sword/shield(this is for S/S armsman, for some classes it's harder).

To earn 20 plat (again figures are pre-patch) you need to get about 60 bp's to salvage and trinket!!

Agree, this sucks. I dont craft so I have no idea how boring trinketing can be and how much cash you should get by doing it. To earn 20plat I have to kill 20 000 rocots. That will take some time too

Btw, Armsman epic set was worth of 400g by salvaging

 

[Meatballs]

Using 99% overcharged chain armour and some good quality dropped jewellery (hunt yoo lazy lot!):

Str Con Dex Cha : 75
Qui : 22
Body Cold Heat Energy Matter : 26%
Spirit Crush Thrust Slash : 25%
Hits : 195
Stealth Slash Instruments : +11

If you are a merc with only 4 stats and 3 skills you should be able to cap everything on overcharged 99% armour as long as the jewellery configuration fits.

 

[Turamber]

Originally posted by maxgirth
Agreed, life after 50 is increasingly getting harder,are they trying to encourage us to roll alts?, with maybe a buffbot thrown in for good measure.

I know you're joking ... but of course they are! And making epic armour wear out, bringing in spell crafting et al are all designs to keep people renewing their subby and to keep them in game.

Can't blame Mythic, they want to keep hold of their cash cow in the light of new games, but you have to decide where you want to be playing and what you want to be doing in-game.

I know I have...

 

[maxgirth]

Originally posted by minstrel_kyra
Max, I know you are tired of all of this and I can respect your reasons (and the other reasons you gave me but didn't mention in this thread). I hope you stay but I wouldn't blame you if you didn't.

I wish you luck with whatever you do next.

Thx hun,the one aspect of this game that never changes every patch,is the great peeps you meet whilst playing.

 

[old.windforce]

max,

if it helps i can sc your stuff reall cheap

 

[old.mattshanes]

Max come rvr with my group for the day miss playing alongside you,bet you will enjoy it.

 

[aphid]

The salvage is now less per item post patch, but didn't I read that drops occour more often now to compensate for this?

 

[Heffer]

erm guys if i say i am having a really hard time and that this games crafting systems sucks a few times can i get SCing real cheap and RvRing for a day next Mr 'LOL!' man matt?

 

[old.mattshanes]

Originally posted by Heffer
erm guys if i say i am having a really hard time and that this games crafting systems sucks a few times can i get SCing real cheap and RvRing for a day next Mr 'LOL!' man matt?

Yeah whatever:sleeping:

Hmmm i might not be in alb much longer

 

[maxgirth]

Originally posted by old.windforce
max,

if it helps i can sc your stuff reall cheap

Awww thx loads,but it`s not really the cash side that is the problem,but the when ever we have something 1/2 decent it get`s nerfed,I will pm you in game though as I have 4 pieces that need sc`ing

 

[maxgirth]

Originally posted by old.mattshanes
Max come rvr with my group for the day miss playing alongside you,bet you will enjoy it.

Not long now bud,the shackles of the forge are loosening.

 

[maxgirth]

Originally posted by aphid
The salvage is now less per item post patch, but didn't I read that drops occour more often now to compensate for this?

The one decent place dropwise we had pre patch, was the families, the drop rate has dropped significantly,but the quality rate has improved, trying to keep in touch with crafted and sc`ed items,but fails miserably.

So now we have slightly higher quality gear, but less of it,and lower returns salvage wise.

P.S. the spawn rate is now slower to.

 

[maxgirth]

Originally posted by Heffer
erm guys if i say i am having a really hard time and that this games crafting systems sucks a few times can i get SCing real cheap and RvRing for a day next Mr 'LOL!' man matt?

Heffer i`m not saying i`m having a hard time personally,I put forward a strong valid point,that a lot of people make cash farming SI areas for the 1/2 decent returns they got pre patch.

However I subsidise a lot of my orders,when they have got ridiculously high with cash from my own pocket,cash which I make through the only side of crafting which pays,and that is hinging,
you don`t have to be a rocket scientist to work out what this now entails.

 

[old.mattshanes]

They have nerfed the salvage value on some things too much,i noticed it today on si items oh well farm frontier in 1.61 and get shitloads of drops.

 

[Fightersuntzu]

Originally posted by old.mattshanes
Yeah whatever:sleeping:

Hmmm i might not be in alb much longer

Ooh, ill break your legs if you move somewhere else matt !

 

[cadiva]

Not sure how it works over in Alb cos I don't have any chars high enough to farm DF or a crafter to trinket but...

on Mid/Excal buying the 1h diamond seal axes at 15 seals returns 100 asterite bars so 50 hinges at near enough 45g per 10 and the 2h saph seal axes return 60 bars for 27 seals.

Maybes they've changed which items return the better bars per seal cost value on Albion?

 

[maxgirth]

Originally posted by cadiva
Not sure how it works over in Alb cos I don't have any chars high enough to farm DF or a crafter to trinket but...

on Mid/Excal buying the 1h diamond seal axes at 15 seals returns 100 asterite bars so 50 hinges at near enough 45g per 10 and the 2h saph seal axes return 60 bars for 27 seals.

Maybes they've changed which items return the better bars per seal cost value on Albion?

Seals still have the same returns here bud, i`m talking in general about the SI hotspots,a bit lame imho that on the release of SI it was very much a crafting add on,of which salvaging is a very big part,then it gets a hefty whack with the nerf bat, to me it`s selling something under false pretences.

 

[maxgirth]

Originally posted by old.mattshanes
Yeah whatever:sleeping:

Hmmm i might not be in alb much longer

Dont leave m8ty, we`ll go out drop farming,only today I got 7 items and the return was fantastic:- used bus ticket,west ham season ticket,rubber hammer,200 bronze bars,10 bazooka joe wrappers,solar powered torch, not bad for all day hey?