The Cloud

[russell]

WHAT is it?
I don't trust it
If U2 can do that... It opens the flood gates.
Spooky.

 

[ECA]

 

[Zarjazz]

I do it for a living and the technical details are ...

 

[Scouse]

It's just normal IT infrastructure that is remote from your location.

I.E. A hard drive over the internet somewhere...

 

[Edmond]

She's worried her naked boobie pics will be hacked

 

[Moriath]

She's worried her naked boobie pics will be hacked

Why doesn't she get rid of that worry by publishing them here

 

[soze]

The girls in work were worrying about this the other day. It turns out that most of them at one point or another have taken the selfie style pics but they were more worried about their kids pictures and how at risk they were of being stolen. And we found out that some of them do not understand how Photo Stream on the iPhone works and one of them had taken some underwear pics for her squadie husband and they were on all the other girls phones because they share photo streams. And yes I saw them and yes they were great.

This did get them talking and they have all disabled stuff like photo stream and dropbox backups because they do not want the pics of their kids ending up on-line.

 

[Moriath]

The girls in work were worrying about this the other day. It turns out that most of them at one point or another have taken the selfie style pics but they were more worried about their kids pictures and how at risk they were of being stolen. And we found out that some of them do not understand how Photo Stream on the iPhone works and one of them had taken some underwear pics for her squadie husband and they were on all the other girls phones because they share photo streams. And yes I saw them and yes they were great.

This did get them talking and they have all disabled stuff like photo stream and dropbox backups because they do not want the pics of their kids ending up on-line.

But you didn't steal them?

 

[Olgaline]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27GgP6BXR6A

 

[soze]

But you didn't steal them?

Nope but I did scare them all. They all sync iPhones to their PC's thinking they were as safe as houses I showed them how wrong they were (teams have rights to the rest of the teams roaming profiles). And I got the impression that more than one of them then copied some naughty pics off their machines I did lend 5 of them disk keys to take pictures home and I know none of them will secure wipe them so I know that if I am evil / perverted enough I could steal them. But I am not.

 

[TdC]

WHAT is it?
I don't trust it
If U2 can do that... It opens the flood gates.
Spooky.

a) it's a bunch of computers somewhere.
b) good.
c) assume that everything you have ever done, ever, can be looked up and used by someone on the internets.
d) no, but it can be.
extra credit: every single "free" service uses your data in some way, perhaps not immediately evident. that's why its free. also, most of the not-free services do this too. remember, if you put something on the internet, it's there forever.

 

[Overdriven]

I imagine it's the God version of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud

 

[DaGaffer]

WHAT is it?
I don't trust it
If U2 can do that... It opens the flood gates.
Spooky.

U2 (or rather Apple) have been able to do that for at least a decade. The Cloud has nothing to do with that.

As a side note I find it quite interesting that most people loathe the whole U2 download idea, except marketing people, who are creaming their pants about it, despite it being the exact opposite (targeted, relevant, not wasteful) of what online marketing is supposed to be about.

 

[TdC]

according to diverse NL ICT judicial peiple, U2, or more specifically Apple broke all kinds of laws pushing data on to people's phones without asking them. that aside, the data happens to be impossible to remove. ferrreelz.

no wonder the marketing rat-scum are explosively venting jizz from all their holes.

 

[caLLous]

Honestly, fuck Apple. Not only for doing something like that in the first place but for making iTunes so bad and for making it so hard to get rid of the album afterwards. My net at home is still freaking slow and I know about every kb in and out (generally speaking, where possible), if I was an Apple user (lol) and they pulled a stunt like this I would not be an Apple user for very much longer. I get annoyed enough with stuff like Real Racing 3 on my Note 3. I start it up to show off how good it looks and it's like "hang on there matey I need to get this 300mb update first lol". Every time.

Am I the only one who just plugs their phone into the computer, drags MP3 and FLAC albums over to it (in Explorer, with no fancy bullshit middle-man apps) and then just plays them?

 

[soze]

They give people free music? I wonder if it is America only as it is not on my phone. But just as an FYI you can permanently hide any download using iTunes so this impossible to get rid of is a bit strong.

*I just checked and I have it but not on my phone because I don't have automatically download new purchases turned on which you do have to turn on so they have not pushed anything to me.

 

[Scouse]

marketing rat-scum are explosively venting jizz holes.

Fixed.

And, inevitably:

View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDW_Hj2K0wok


Edit: To be fair - it's a total n00b user error. If you're dumb enough to buy apple products in the first place you've agreed to have your options managed for you, whether you like it or not...

 

[caLLous]

*I just checked and I have it but not on my phone because I don't have automatically download new purchases turned on which you do have to turn on so they have not pushed anything to me.

So, out of interest. What happens if you don't have that turned on and you buy an album? Do you have to then go and manually download it? Surely turning on auto-downloads would seem logical to a lot of people (it's one less step when buying music), but they would *not* expect to have things that they hadn't bought sent to their phone without their knowledge or consent.

 

[soze]

Again this is being given a free album. I remember reading about the Android fans defending Google for uninstalling Apps from peoples phones because they were banned. This forum is so unfair

 

[soze]

So, out of interest. What happens if you don't have that turned on and you buy an album? Do you have to then go and manually download it? Surely turning on auto-downloads would seem logical to a lot of people (it's one less step when buying music), but they would *not* expect to have things that they hadn't bought sent to their phone without their knowledge or consent.

I use iTunes Match so all my music is in "the cloud" at 90 something GB I do not have room on my phone for all of it so I cant have that option turned on. I have to click the cloud beside the Album to download it or press play to stream it. But this album is now hidden as I think U2 are a bunch of cunts.

But yes most people might have had this Album appear on their phones but it is not a massive invasion of privacy it is something appearing in your account and being delivered to your phone if that setting is on. It takes all of 5 minutes to get rid of it if you are that offended about being given a free album.

If this was Google giving you that Michael Jackson album on all your Androids I bet not one fuck would be given.

 

[caLLous]

I don't really give 2 shits either way but for me it's not the free album so much as them sending something to your phone without your consent or knowledge. Like I said my internet at home is pants so it's more "fuck off using my bandwidth for some stupid marketing gimmick" rather than any privacy issues. And also fuck off making it so hard to get rid of (it takes 5 minutes to delete one album??).

 

[soze]

I don't really give 2 shits either way but for me it's not the free album so much as them sending something to your phone without your consent or knowledge. Like I said my internet at home is pants so it's more "fuck off using my bandwidth for some stupid marketing gimmick" rather than any privacy issues. And also fuck off making it so hard to get rid of (it takes 5 minutes to delete one album??).

Yes that is stupid. But remember these are not highly clued up users for the most part. If deleting the album on your phone deleted it from your account (so you don't see it on your phone anymore) then you would have hundreds of pissed off people every day asking where the album they purchased had gone. Maybe there needs to be an option to delete and hide on the iPhone so you skip a step?

 

[Scouse]

Again this is being given a free album. I remember reading about the Android fans defending Google for uninstalling Apps from peoples phones because they were banned. This forum is so unfair

You're such a fanboi Soze.

 

[Embattle]

A marketing term

 

[TdC]

Again this is being given a free album. I remember reading about the Android fans defending Google for uninstalling Apps from peoples phones because they were banned. This forum is so unfair

actually, it's being forced to accept data, with no way of getting rid of it again, ever. enjoy your "gift".

 

[soze]

actually, it's being forced to accept data, with no way of getting rid of it again, ever. enjoy your "gift".

Except you are not forced I have not been forced. It is not on my phone I have downloaded nothing, nor has anyone else that does not have that feature turned on.

 

[Scouse]

nor has anyone else that does not have that really helpful and practically mandatory feature for most turned on.

Yeah. If people don't like being "given" free stuff they never asked for and don't want they can just take all their music off itunes really easily and put it on another device with no hassles eh?

 

[soze]

Yeah. If people don't like being "given" free stuff they never asked for and don't want they can just take all their music off itunes really easily and put it on another device with no hassles eh?

Wow. I have said I download all my music from the cloud and still do I have not disabled any helpful or "mandatory features" I have turned off Automatic downloads. Now When I buy an album I click the cloud beside it to download it.

 

[Scouse]

Wow.

Yeah, other people don't have it configured how you do tho m8 - so they'll get something they didn't want automatically (maybe on their limited phone data plan too) - so should they disable what they use to stop shit like this?

And I widened the argument - it's not like people can switch easily if they don't like it is it?

Apple and their products are fucking awful. They're the EA of the phone/software world...

 

[ECA]

To be fair, at least EA games are competitively priced next to their competitors.

Their games would have to be like £250 before we could start comparing them to apple.