The Autopsy

[throdgrain]

Indeed, the off button is generally the only censor required .

 

[Durzel]

Originally posted by throdgrain
Durzel, fair point you have made, though I dont believe its usual on the news to show the bodies of crime victims or whatever.

It's not unusual however to see bodies, body parts, etc when reporting on war scenes/suicide bombers. News programmes in the UK, particularly with war stories, have pretty much given up trying to completely sanitise these events - in most cases such scenes would be impossible to film otherwise (i.e. there would be no shots available that were on topic that didn't contain blood n' guts)

The way I look at it is this - its neither the responsibility of broadcasters or programme makers to speculate on whats morally reprehensible to show or not. I would rather have the option to watch something like this autopsy, than not. If you, the consumer, wishes to remain desensitised to these things, wars, etc then simply switch off the TV. It really is as simple as that.

The ironic thing is, you could witness a pileup on the road tomorrow which would be 100 times more graphic and harrowing than any orchestrated meticulous analysis of the human body in an autopsy.

there is a slight difference between the news and a full blown documentary though.

Indeed. One might argue that in not giving scenes of carnage more than x minutes air time, they're trivialising the lives of those that died. To put a different slant on it.

 

[Lester]

I'm against censorship but I do think that the kids are exposed to too much sometimes, what with the news showing blood and gore and details of rapes being broadcast even early in the day. Yes you have the off switch but you can't sit with the kids all day just editing out the news etc. I have spent a lot of time making sure that my kids know that films and programmes are not real, there's no such thing as monsters etc, so the news is probably the scariest programme of all because it's real.

As far as I'm concerned thay can show what they like as long as it's late.

 

[throdgrain]

I agree with the Lester bloke. Though I do find the contents of the 40 or so channels my tv offers me to be incredibly poor a lot of the time, to the point of being depressing.

 

[Testin da Cable]

Originally posted by Durzel
Indeed. One might argue that in not giving scenes of carnage more than x minutes air time, they're trivialising the lives of those that died. To put a different slant on it.

hmm I don't think that's a truely valid slant. thousands of people die every day, some of them quite horribly. of those, a very small percentale make the news. does that mean that those who fail are trivialised beyond compare?



on a different tangent, I was once a photographer. Many times I wrestled with the question of ever lending my talents to say, the police [forensics] or perhaps correspondence [read war, famine, bad shit]. The police won in my personal battle, not the nature of the job but perhaps it's context. I found it would be easier to take a picture of a child hit by a car than that it would be to take a picture of a child mutilated by a landmine. I respect those who can do the other thing and stay human very much. It's a hard world sometimes.

 

[Panda On Smack]

I read the topic as 'The AutoSpy'

 

[granny]

Originally posted by throdgrain
I agree with the Lester bloke. Though I do find the contents of the 40 or so channels my tv offers me to be incredibly poor a lot of the time, to the point of being depressing.

Nah you're just smoking too much weed throddy

 

[throdgrain]

Hardly watch tv tbh, too shite mostly Possibly an hour or 2 a day ? Doubt if much more. Im too busy looknig for teh rizlas

 

[granny]

Same here, I watch Buffy, The West Wing, The Sopranos, 6 Feet Under and maybe some Simpsons while I eat. Not even 2 hours a day on average.

 

[throdgrain]

Yeah I do watch the Sopranos, though none of them other programes Im afraid

 

[granny]

But back on topic...

I agree with lester quite a lot - but I worry about more than just kids tbh. Like I said before some people simply may not realise what's going to be involved in an autopsy and the strength of the death taboo is so heavy for some people that they may have ended up pretty badly upset by what they found themselves watching. And I only say this because I know how difficult many medical students find autopsies at first - and these are medical students - people who know full well what's going to happen, people who've chosen to be there.

I dunno, I'm really in 2 minds about the ethics of C4 broadcasting that. On the one hand I strongly agree with the anti-censorship approach but on the other hand I think we need to live in a more well-adjusted and supportive and educated society before we could feel safe to show absolutely *anything* we wanted to on TV.

 

[granny]

Did you see the Sopranos on E4 lastnight? Wanna bet on how many more episodes Ralphy's got before someone clips him?

 

[dysfunction]

I watched Scrubs...it was quite funny...

 

[mank!]

I watch Hollyoaks and that's it

 

[mank!]

I saw Scrubs last night, it was damn good I must say. I shall try to remember to watch it more often.

Oh, and I watch Football on TV whenever I can, but that's about it when it comes to programmes I set out to watch. Usually, if I'm bored at night I'll go downstairs and watch some random TV but that doesn't count.

 

[throdgrain]

Originally posted by granny
Did you see the Sopranos on E4 lastnight? Wanna bet on how many more episodes Ralphy's got before someone clips him?

The thing is that none of the characters are likeable, which is something i think they have done very well. Just when you begin to sypathise with one of them he does something so fucking awful you realise how horrible they are. Remember when Ralphy killed that girl in the praking lot of that club they go to ? What a nice man .
I thought the end bit with Tony sitting in the stable with the sick horse and the goat went very well with the bit where he takes all Ralphy's money from the horse. Clever programme I think .

 

[throdgrain]

Wait! Did I say goat ??

No links please anyone !!

 

[legendario]

I wish I had watched Sopranos from the start.

oh well 24 is better in any case and cleverer

 

[Wazzerphuk]

Originally posted by old.Kez
throd: No, I'm quite happy being an anonymous twat. There are a couple here who've seen my photograph, and they'd be sure to vouch for my immaturity or rancid features - whichever - as thats clearly what you're fishing for. I'm not entirely sure it comes into play here, though.

It's true, Kez is beyond ugly.

 

[granny]

Resurrecting this in light of today's news that the ITC has dismissed the 130 compaints lodged against this program

"Although the subject matter and content of the programme approached the limits of what is allowed by the programme code, those limits were not exceeded," the Independent Television Commission (ITC) ruled.

Nice to see a public watchdog type body (no pun intended....) that's sensible.