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No. It shouldn't.

It should be either ignored or (preferably) ridiculed by intelligent people who know not to step over the line into violence. Any other solution is against freedom of speech.

Mr Cameron told The Jewish Chronicle: "There's a difference between Spurs fans self-describing themselves as Yids and someone calling someone a Yid as an insult.
 

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Mr Cameron told The Jewish Chronicle: "There's a difference between Spurs fans self-describing themselves as Yids and someone calling someone a Yid as an insult.

Doesn't matter. Neither can be prosecutable offences if we are to have freedom of speech.

If you hate yids, spicks, coons, crackers, japs or martians - you should be able to say so, freely. And then have your opinions challenged in the open air.

If you hit someone, then that's a different story.
 

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That is all well and good until something you say causes someone to kill themselves. If you want to be able to say anything you want to anyone you want you need to be prepared to face the whirlwind when they decide to talk with their fists. You might think it is OK for you to use your intelligence to talk people in circles and sit there smugly afterwards but then it should be OK for someone else to do the same to you with their strength.

Stopping people saying racist and hate filled things is an evolution of stopping people using strength to do what they want. One has been socially unacceptable and illegal for a long time and the other is heading that way too.
 

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That is all well and good until something you say causes someone to kill themselves. If you want to be able to say anything you want to anyone you want you need to be prepared to face the whirlwind when they decide to talk with their fists. You might think it is OK for you to use your intelligence to talk people in circles and sit there smugly afterwards but then it should be OK for someone else to do the same to you with their strength.

Stopping people saying racist and hate filled things is an evolution of stopping people using strength to do what they want. One has been socially unacceptable and illegal for a long time and the other is heading that way too.

Fail argument.
 

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Idiots should be educated into not being idiots, banning it and sweeping it under the carpet doesn't do anything. It probably makes it worse.
 

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That is all well and good until something you say causes someone to kill themselves. If you want to be able to say anything you want to anyone you want you need to be prepared to face the whirlwind when they decide to talk with their fists. You might think it is OK for you to use your intelligence to talk people in circles and sit there smugly afterwards but then it should be OK for someone else to do the same to you with their strength.

Stopping people saying racist and hate filled things is an evolution of stopping people using strength to do what they want. One has been socially unacceptable and illegal for a long time and the other is heading that way too.


That's quite possibly the most retarded argument I've ever heard. I seem to remember a little nursery rhyme about sticks and stones when I was a kid. Basically you're saying calling someone names is the same as a punch in the face. Don't be a fucking idiot.
 

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That's quite possibly the most retarded argument I've ever heard. I seem to remember a little nursery rhyme about sticks and stones when I was a kid. Basically you're saying calling someone names is the same as a punch in the face. Don't be a fucking idiot.
Actually I was saying in the same way it is not OK to go and kick the fuck out of someone anymore it is changing so no matter how smart you are you can't just go around saying what you want and being a cunt. Verbal bullying does as much damage as physical.
 

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soze said:
Actually I was saying in the same way it is not OK to go and kick the fuck out of someone anymore it is changing so no matter how smart you are you can't just go around saying what you want and being a cunt. Verbal bullying does as much damage as physical.

Does it fuck. I don't notice A&E being overwhelmed with the verbally abused of a Saturday night.
 

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I bet Fernando Torres is thinking "maybe I just need s head injury to start scoring again?"
 

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I had a perfect day today. I got a job offer right after an interview, played GTA, ordered 2 for 1 pizza and got sent 3 and finally Orient won yet again (5-1 as well).
 

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Orient express choochoo!


It's unbelievable mate. Just got back from the game and we were absolutely quality. Russel Slade is one of our best managers of all time IMO. Every season has been exciting. Two 7th place finishes and an incredible FA cup run a couple of years ago (stopped only by Arsenal). 11 wins in a row last season and now this ridiculous start.
 

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It's unbelievable mate. Just got back from the game and we were absolutely quality. Russel Slade is one of our best managers of all time IMO. Every season has been exciting. Two 7th place finishes and an incredible FA cup run a couple of years ago (stopped only by Arsenal). 11 wins in a row last season and now this ridiculous start.

Your doing good, hope you keep it up. As far as we are concerned play-offs at best. Jackett is making a meal out of this, messing with a winning line-up is one of management 101 don't do's.
 

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Your doing good, hope you keep it up. As far as we are concerned play-offs at best. Jackett is making a meal out of this, messing with a winning line-up is one of management 101 don't do's.


I'm sure you will go straight back up one way or another. I just hope we can hold on to our players in January and make a real good go of it this season.
 

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Your doing good, hope you keep it up. As far as we are concerned play-offs at best. Jackett is making a meal out of this, messing with a winning line-up is one of management 101 don't do's.
You've won 5 of the last 6, I think you'll be ok to go straight back up. Sheffield United are on a horrible run.

Anyway, d'awww...

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I'm sure you will go straight back up one way or another. I just hope we can hold on to our players in January and make a real good go of it this season.

As I've said on here, the win against Swindon hid the fact that Jackett started to tinker with the formation when it wasn't needed. Hopefully, were Orient in the 2nd tier before or am I just imagining shit?
 

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As I've said on here, the win against Swindon hid the fact that Jackett started to tinker with the formation when it wasn't needed. Hopefully, were Orient in the 2nd tier before or am I just imagining shit?


The Championship? Not in my lifetime. We were in League two for ages.
 
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