Football The 2011/2012 Season Thread

[gohan]

Bollocks, you have alot of recognised international out there tonight, more than enough to win against a weakened Gala. It might not even be close to your first team but that performance was just horrible. As for why they are playing, I would imagine he is trying to put some of them in the shop window to offload. Thing is, he needs to make the most of these games to get the first 11 totally fit, if not he risks a bad start to the season and more pressure.

Cannot believe he hasn't sorted that awful defence, 12 goals conceded in 4 very easy friendlies is disgusting.

again tho every friendly has been full of shit players like degen and krygalololololol then padded out with academy players like robinson kelly and flanagan who are like 17 and 18

not really a true indication or anything atm

 

[Wazzerphuk]

Doni's shit btw.

 

[Keitanz]

Looking at it, they played their strongest team just about, can't compare the teams we played, they would beat us 8/10 times.

But yea 12 goals conceded in 4 games is bad, prob due to us playing such a young defense in all 4 games :/

 

[Wazzerphuk]

You let BAROS score twice against you.

Surely as Liverpool fans you remember how shit he was. Well, he's much older now, so he's even shitter.

 

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Spanish Bank Puts Cristiano Ronaldo Up As Collateral For ECB Loans

is this bollocks or what?

 

[cHodAX]

C'mon Chodax who from that 11 does anyone actually rate? Flannagen, Kelly and Carroll are good prospects but unproven. Spearing too i guess, Poulson and Cole are well past it, the rest are just rubbish. No idea about Doni and Robinson.

Away to Galatasaray is never easy, especially with so many inexperienced players.

However conceding 12 goals in 4 games against shit to average opposition is pretty awful.

Carroll cost £35 million and for that money he had better be great. The rest of the side? Do we really need to start counting international caps and first team starts? Gala fielded a weakened side as well and yet battered a Liverpool side with alot of experience, especially when you take the substitutes of Aquillani and Kyut into account. The facts remain, they were shocking, badly beaten and the morale of the younger players hurt. The defending was horrible, the run of form is abysml and Kenny keeps picking second stringers instead of getting his first 11 fully match fit.

 

[gohan]

Carroll cost £35 million and for that money he had better be great. The rest of the side? Do we really need to start counting international caps and first team starts? Gala fielded a weakened side as well and yet battered a Liverpool side with alot of experience, especially when you take the substitutes of Aquillani and Kyut into account. The facts remain, they were shocking, badly beaten and the morale of the younger players hurt. The defending was horrible, the run of form is abysml and Kenny keeps picking second stringers instead of getting his first 11 fully match fit.

Doni 10 caps for brazil, played alot for roma, but obviously a back up keeper no first team prospects

Flanagan 18 years old 7 first team appearances no caps
Kelly 21 yrs old 12 apps no caps
Kyrgiakos, old greek and shit, tho granted experienced
Insua 22yrs old 4 argentina caps and a player I think will come very good
Poulsen old danish and shit, hasn't had a sniff at the first team, and with more midfielders coming in that won't change
Spearing 22 yrs old 14 apps no caps
Degen old swiss and shit also nowhere near the first team
Cole - the only decent international on the pitch that has played for a decent country and played at the top lvl for a decade
Robinson 17 yrs old, left back by trade playing LAM 3 apps 0 caps
Carroll a handfull of england caps and hopefully a great player to come#


hardly a glowing resume

only 4 players that could be called internationals 2 of them for very low ranked countries, then poulsen, denmark aren't too bad but he's shit

as said cole is the only international in that team that would be recognised as being a decent player across europe


I'm fairly sure gala C team would hammer san marino and that would be a team with 11 internationals

 

[Raven]

Cole hasn't been that great for a few years. Shame as I quite liked him.

I wouldn't write Liverpool off, I wouldn't bet against them competing for top 5.

 

[Wazzerphuk]

Degen was a Swiss regular before his injuries, no?

 

[cHodAX]

Doni 10 caps for brazil, played alot for roma, but obviously a back up keeper no first team prospects

Flanagan 18 years old 7 first team appearances no caps
Kelly 21 yrs old 12 apps no caps
Kyrgiakos, old greek and shit, tho granted experienced
Insua 22yrs old 4 argentina caps and a player I think will come very good
Poulsen old danish and shit, hasn't had a sniff at the first team, and with more midfielders coming in that won't change
Spearing 22 yrs old 14 apps no caps
Degen old swiss and shit also nowhere near the first team
Cole - the only decent international on the pitch that has played for a decent country and played at the top lvl for a decade
Robinson 17 yrs old, left back by trade playing LAM 3 apps 0 caps
Carroll a handfull of england caps and hopefully a great player to come#


hardly a glowing resume

only 4 players that could be called internationals 2 of them for very low ranked countries, then poulsen, denmark aren't too bad but he's shit

as said cole is the only international in that team that would be recognised as being a decent player across europe


I'm fairly sure gala C team would hammer san marino and that would be a team with 11 internationals

Joe Cole - wealth of experience.
Andy Carroll - £35 million with immense potential we are told.
Doni - wealth of experience in Italy and plays for BRAZIL!
Poulsen - highly experienced player that Liverpool have not managed to get a performance from.
Kyut - sub but he was on the pitch and Liverpool were no better, one of your most consistent players of the last decade.
Insua - good enough that you just bought him back.
Degen - 29 international appearances for a very competitive Swiss side.
Kyrgiakos, 32 years of age, 61 international caps, pushing 300 career 1st team starts.
Aquillani - Cost a fortune, did well in his season back in Italy, did nothing against Gala.
Shelvey and Spearing - Two of your most promising youngsters we are told.

That is not a weak side, just a weak performance. It isn't a starting 11 but all those named above are highly likely to be in the 25 man named Premier League squad. They are not reserves, saying otherwise as some people have is just nonsense.

 

[cHodAX]

Degen was a Swiss regular before his injuries, no?

Yes, 29 caps for a very good side considering the Swiss population. They have been decent during the era he has played for them and when fit, on form he is good.

 

[Scouse]

Lol

Why are we debating the relative merits of a team put out for a friendly? Who gives a fuck? Certainly not the players or manager

 

[cHodAX]

Lol

Why are we debating the relative merits of a team put out for a friendly? Who gives a fuck? Certainly not the players or manager

We are debating you Scouse fucks making excuses for yet another crushing defeat!

 

[cHodAX]

BBC Sport - Man Utd 4-1 Hartlepool

Nick Barmby's lad is looking like a player, funny he ended up at United.

 

[Keitanz]

You let BAROS score twice against you.

Surely as Liverpool fans you remember how shit he was. Well, he's much older now, so he's even shitter.

And Arsenal let some unknown midfielder named Sebastián Vázquez score against them, what is your point?

It's stupid to judge teams based upon friendlies.. I'm sure the manager and players do not care much about this, if they cared about it then a much stronger team would have played today.

Things could be much worse for us at the moment, if we still had those old owners, we wouldn't have signed anyone we have already spent about 90-100m in the past 6 months on players. That's pretty impressive for a team with apparently no money if you read the posts on here, even if 50m of it was from the sale of Torres.

 

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Javier Hernández's former club claim he has a neurological condition | Football | The Guardian

 

[Vladamir]

Temper temper Cristiano, it's only a friendly!

‪Cristiano Ronaldo Hits Chivas Player Like Judo‬‏ - YouTube

 

[Sydrik]

Once again my level of hatred towards that smug arrogant cunt increases by one point.

Tosser.

 

[Calaen]

Javier Hernández's former club claim he has a neurological condition | Football | The Guardian

The Daily Mash - Bedside vigil for ball victim Hernandez

As for the Ronaldo Vid.


It's handbags at 10 paces, two players holding each other and falling over. He doesn't hit him either, I was expecting some kind of god damn Judo Chop!!!!

 

[Vladamir]

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_7066743,00.html

'Felt right' because of his 200k a week wages perhaps?

 

[megadave]

and because despite delaying the city talks, Juventus pulled out in the end? ;d

 

[Vladamir]

That too!

 

[cHodAX]

Hardly hit him, just a nice judo throw.

 

[cHodAX]

BBC Sport - Manchester United through to Premier Under-17 final in Milk Cup

 

[Marc]

We're being linked more and more with Mata. Reports are that his release fee is only £13.5m. This would be the biggest bargain of the season, without a doubt. He's a special player and anything under £20m for him is astonishing value. He's at least twice the player of Henderson.

He's not "that" good. On his day, he can be brilliant. I remember watching him against Deportivo, circa 2007/2008 and it was one of the best performances by a single player I have seen, scoring a fine individual goal and setting up the other four. That was easily his finest season. Since then he hasnt really kicked on and has stagnated somewhat. £13.5m is about right for him and the change of scenery could may well do him the world of good, but hes not the kind of player the top echelon of clubs would be interested in. The interest from Arsenal and Spurs is about the level he is at currently but if he can reproduce his early career form at Arsenal, he could well be a shrewd signing and at £13.5m, not much of a gamble.

 

[cHodAX]

He's not "that" good. On his day, he can be brilliant. I remember watching him against Deportivo, circa 2007/2008 and it was one of the best performances by a single player I have seen, scoring a fine individual goal and setting up the other four. That was easily his finest season. Since then he hasnt really kicked on and has stagnated somewhat. £13.5m is about right for him and the change of scenery could may well do him the world of good, but hes not the kind of player the top echelon of clubs would be interested in. The interest from Arsenal and Spurs is about the level he is at currently but if he can reproduce his early career form at Arsenal, he could well be a shrewd signing and at £13.5m, not much of a gamble.

Hmm I dunno mate, maybe what he needs is a really great manager to light a fire under him? If the ability is there but he doesn't produce often enough then that is a matter of motivation/attitude and we all know the best managers can shake that out of a player.

 

[Marc]

Hmm I dunno mate, maybe what he needs is a really great manager to light a fire under him? If the ability is there but he doesn't produce often enough then that is a matter of motivation/attitude and we all know the best managers can shake that out of a player.

Dunno. The point I was trying to make was that hes not the second comming of Jesus that Wazzer made him out to be, but certainly has potential. But to claim he is a special player is complete nonsense.

 

[Wazzerphuk]

Er what the fuck are you on about? I said he'd be great value considering the market at that price. I never said he was brilliant. You're a moron, but then you're a Barcelona fan so I shouldn't need to state that, it's common knowledge. Learn to read.

Also, Mata was directly involved (scoring or assisting) in 20 La Liga goals last season. So whether or not you rate him, he's effective and consistent in that regard.

 

[cHodAX]

Also, Mata was directly involved (scoring or assisting) in 20 La Liga goals last season. So whether or not you rate him, he's effective and consistent in that regard.

Yeah those are the stats I was basing my opinion on, to do that in La Liga would suggest that price quoted is great value.

 

[Wazzerphuk]

But apparently he's shit because he doesn't play for Barca