Thats It Im Gonne Whine!!!!

[Eroa]

you port.
you buff yourself.
you leave apk.
you get to amg.
you get unstealthed by a poisonspike.
you get killed by 1fg stealthers.
you release.

good enough reason for not soloing? and if it's not stealthers, there is 3 fg mids coming by as you unstealth when doing /use2 on som, coincidence? ya ofc. QQ more meighty!

only difference here for a hib is that they

you buff yourself.
you leave to run to emain.
you get dont get to emain, cause of campers.
you release.

 

[Tesla Monkor]

Press <Forceful Zephyr> Shoot a helluva lot of crush arrows. Assasin with relics down.

Now ask yourself. think thats funny?
Oh and my rr3 pala beat the shit out of you and some of the jiv/jix family added and was very cocky as fuck towards me to when I said dont add.

You always solo when I see you about. Your a good player and person it seems.

But I also make whine threads and just get flamed.

Remove FZ from archers and assasins might fight you

Soo.. basically people who group go to hell and people who solo are holier than the pope? ;D

People really need to get off their high horses about how the game should be played. If YOU prefer to run solo, then good for you. I run in groups, I run in stealther groups and occasionally I solo - and nothing that is brought forward in these 'solo or you suck!' threads has convinced me that the game should be played otherwise.

 

[xxManiacxx]

you port.
you buff yourself.
you leave apk.
you get to amg.
you get unstealthed by a poisonspike.
you get killed by 1fg stealthers.
you release.

good enough reason for not soloing? and if it's not stealthers, there is 3 fg mids coming by as you unstealth when doing /use2 on som, coincidence? ya ofc. QQ more meighty!

Can say the same about mmg and albs. God knows how many time I have done just that to get to mmg and get poisonspike on me and see Asharith, Arauddry, Kklas and a bunch of leechers camping there.

Or like yesterday when I got bored of all the mids in Emain and ported HW just to have a sorc, a cabba, a scout and later on another sorc with DD traps, PNs etcetc camping mmg alb side and a hib ns on mid side with poisonspike. Was standing on mmgH bm for over 40min, placing poisonspike now and then and they don´t move an inch. They maybe killed 6-7ppl during those 40min I was standing there. So fun.

Only fun thing during that time was when a scout stepped on my poisonspike and died from it.

 

[Lokir]

The game changes.

Mythic actually want more "epic battles" and and thats not a 1vs1 fight
Like it or not, thats the fact.

All realms have stealtherzergs from time to time. So dont always blame the other realms. Midgard and Albion have more ppl=chance of a stealthzerg is bigger, but Hibernia have stealtherzergs aswell.

Who started it?
I have my thoughts about it but does it matter?
Dont think so.

You wont find me in 1v1 fight (hopefully) as i play healer now.
When out with a gg we always try to not add 1v1 fights when mids involved
(i say try coz sometimes i am a bit trigger happy.sorry)

 

[Solthyann]

Or like yesterday when I got bored of all the mids in Emain and ported HW just to have a sorc, a cabba, a scout and later on another sorc with DD traps, PNs etcetc camping mmg alb side and a hib ns on mid side with poisonspike. Was standing on mmgH bm for over 40min, placing poisonspike now and then and they don´t move an inch. They maybe killed 6-7ppl during those 40min I was standing there. So fun.

Aye sorry about the first kill Grym - was kinda stuck Mid side due to the Sorc/Cabby (with 5 brittles and PNodes) and then their Scout friend. First kill was gut reaction when I saw you run back through but only noticed you were down to 5% as I hit PA - otherwise I might have left you..... honest

Second one was a bit more fun - at least I kept you from getting ganked by the Albs

I did the same tbh, spent around 90 mins dotting and decoying near them trying to get them to do something, and never saw them kill anyone the whole time - in the end joined a few stragglers who were after them and cleaned them out

 

[Phooka]

Well u can grp all u want.. In my honest oppinion in stealthwars nothing is more fun and satisfying then a 1vs1 battle...

And yeas i did duo alot with Tuthmes, i also duoed with Sneakylamah , Babealicious and valkybabe.. But since i dinged rr5 I went more and more solo.. I really dont object too duo's or zergs as long as the high rr stealthers stay out of em.... And if they do would be nice for them too grant the other solo player some fun and not add or something.. FFS just show some respect for the non rp horny players out there....

And that shit about noone likes too die... tssss
I dont mind too die if i loose in a 1 on 1 fight (wich will be 75% of the 1 on 1 fights i find) And i dont mind dying being zerged if i got fraps running hahaha always gives me a laugh too see them sad zerglings jump 1 luwi


and too be honest i didnt expect so much responce too the thread just wanted too whine a bit
Now get on with it and Flame me....

 

[willowywicca]

you get dont get to emain, cause of campers.

I still don't understand why people complain about this..

Why are you going to emain? To find people to kill..
If you get killled before emain why does it matter? You've just found people to kill sooner..

 

[Eroa]

Becourse its boring to run to emain, to avoid getting killed by campers you will have to make long detours which takes long times, or run stealthed all the way from ligen to emain. Anyway, problem is solved in NF. Its not realy a whine tho, more of a fact

 

[Shadster]

Guess you havent learned yet that being a archer means people run from you if you ever have the chance to actually start a fight....

Why bother killing a hib stealther you guys are worth 1rp.. 1rp isnt worth blowing, TS, purge or IP.. The list goes on and on and tbh only stealther from hib thats not been worth 1rp last couple of months is Luon.. I actually used to camp your route to emain just to get 1 on 1 fights but there was no point since all hib stealthers are worth 1rp... I´d say standing around waiting 30mins to 1hour for a good 1 on 1 fight is worth it if you get your hard earned rps... The same long wait and after kill realizing that your opponent have made every thing possible to ensure I dont get full cred of a possible kill just makes it silly, so back to the normal route "amg-mmg apk spot 1 2 3" and thats where all people hang around= adds, zerg etc.. :kissit:[/QUOTE


Urm where does this 1 rp come from prove it tbh or have u been in df and killing grey 20 stealthers and thats why u getting 1 rp, ahh that must be it you kill greys and thats why u get 1 rp per kill. enough of that no 50s kill greys its lame eh

TBH m8 i got nothing what so ever against you and see you solo or with ur duo hunter m8 but accusing all hib stealthers for fixing rps is lame with hibs running to emain and if we not have keeps like we do not now u will have to understand we have to take diff route and get aggro hence sometimes by guards some times by mobs so if it effects the rps it is not hibs fault blame the mobs for attacking and the silly mob called reamon

 

[Cylian]

Urm where does this 1 rp come from prove it tbh or have u been in df and killing grey 20 stealthers and thats why u getting 1 rp, ahh that must be it you kill greys and thats why u get 1 rp per kill. enough of that no 50s kill greys its lame eh

there's a thread about this with a nice collection of screenshots/logs somewhere deeeeep down in the dungeons of this board.

Mostly about Evex at that time, but since then more and more 1RP-Hibs showed up.

 

[willowywicca]

Becourse its boring to run to emain, to avoid getting killed by campers you will have to make long detours which takes long times, or run stealthed all the way from ligen to emain. Anyway, problem is solved in NF. Its not realy a whine tho, more of a fact

You're missing the point..
If there's people killing you before emain.. why do you need to even get to emain? You can kill the people who are on the route.. thus saving you the longer trip for some action.

 

[Shadster]

there's a thread about this with a nice collection of screenshots/logs somewhere deeeeep down in the dungeons of this board.

Mostly about Evex at that time, but since then more and more 1RP-Hibs showed up.

The thing is i kill mids at mpk and alb at apk and cause they have rezz sickness i get no rp's does it make um lame ? Nope im camping there i take the risk now for hibs we have to run by lots of mobs aggro guards so it is more like the same you do not get the rezz sickness from us if you kill us after bolg but you might get less rp cause we have had agrro from mobs or a keep guard but whats point in all this anyway we can port there soon in nf so you will be killing us and getting no rps as well as we will have rezz sickness 2
and rps should not be affected when no rezz sickness as we do not have to dodge any mobs and stuff

Giv NF

 

[Cylian]

The thing is i kill mids at mpk and alb at apk and cause they have rezz sickness i get no rp's does it make um lame ? Nope im camping there i take the risk now for hibs we have to run by lots of mobs aggro guards so it is more like the same you do not get the rezz sickness from us if you kill us after bolg but you might get less rp cause we have had agrro from mobs or a keep guard but whats point in all this anyway we can port there soon in nf so you will be killing us and getting no rps as well as we will have rezz sickness 2
and rps should not be affected when no rezz sickness as we do not have to dodge any mobs and stuff

Giv NF

this is just going to be the same excuses as in the other thread.

tested this 'aggro by mob' theory ... camped at various locations along the route to Emain. As soon as people realized there's someone on it, it didn't matter if you kill them right outside the BK or just on the Emain border, 1RP.
But when I started that day, about all were worth the full amount of RPs.

 

[Solthyann]

this is just going to be the same excuses as in the other thread.

tested this 'aggro by mob' theory ... camped at various locations along the route to Emain. As soon as people realized there's someone on it, it didn't matter if you kill them right outside the BK or just on the Emain border, 1RP.
But when I started that day, about all were worth the full amount of RPs.

Well I guess you'd better contact GOA then, obviously they've messed up the RP system somewhere.

Pointless discussion, been done to death before, no-onme has proved anything (and that includes Hibs who've tried to see what - if anything - is happening)

 

[Polkadot]

this is just going to be the same excuses as in the other thread.

tested this 'aggro by mob' theory ... camped at various locations along the route to Emain. As soon as people realized there's someone on it, it didn't matter if you kill them right outside the BK or just on the Emain border, 1RP.
But when I started that day, about all were worth the full amount of RPs.

That doesn't make sense though - if you're camping right outside the BK and then getting only 1RP for hibs then are you suggesting that we go back into the mainland and fight some mobs first?

I find it hard to believe that a majority of people would resort to this tactic - sure I can believe maybe one or two do it intentionally but not the numbers you imply. There must be more to this than 'lame Hibs cheating' tbh.

 

[Polkadot]

You're missing the point..
If there's people killing you before emain.. why do you need to even get to emain? You can kill the people who are on the route.. thus saving you the longer trip for some action.

The difference is that as a stealther you rely on stealth to aid in combat. The people camping the route to emain can set up shop and lie in wait stealthed. The hib stealthers running to emain are not stealthed and are pretty easy prey for those camping the route as they, generally, follow a reasonably fixed route and in relatively straight lines (with the obvious detours to aggro the occasional mobs).

However, going over it again wont help anything. People will continue to camp the route, hibs will continue to think it's lame and albs/mids will continue to try and justify why it isn't and soon it won't be a problem at all!

 

[Shadster]

That doesn't make sense though - if you're camping right outside the BK and then getting only 1RP for hibs then are you suggesting that we go back into the mainland and fight some mobs first?

I find it hard to believe that a majority of people would resort to this tactic - sure I can believe maybe one or two do it intentionally but not the numbers you imply. There must be more to this than 'lame Hibs cheating' tbh.

agreed and when you think on the nearest place apart from the frontiers its self where the mobs con to 50 is like Cursed forest or heroes / port to ligen
would be some 1 who has 2 much time on there hands to resort to that

 

[Cylian]

just don't forget that this 'mob theory' comes from the hibs that were accused of this.
Unless someone at GOA takes a look at what this is caused by, I doubt that anyone but the ones doing it will know what it is.
And since GOA won't even run a little maintenance/reboot to fix the Lag in Mid/ToA once a week, I don't see that happening.

 

[Illtar]

"I seen many alb guilds do it, i never post here, why should i? if people camp an artifact it's their own fault for this happening(their own stupidity too even requiel said" if people camp artifacts so much why not just get the landscape as wallpaper?") and they just whine because they wasted their own time doing so which they do not need to.(i even learnt this myself a few times after camping some then i gave up and just got them when i had the people, this caused less whines even though i never argued over people taking them before me)

Funny how these so-called people never pm me, nah they just say it on forums.(anyway can't be bothered arguing over something that can't be changed or even have one side of it)
"

so what you are saying is that you find it ok, just becuase you are first to pull him.

Guess it is ok to pick up an arti aswell after someone kiled the mob, becuase they could just be quicker at pressing F8+G?

 

[Samaroon EatsCheese]

And yeas i did duo alot with Tuthmes, i also duoed with Sneakylamah , Babealicious and valkybabe.. But since i dinged rr5 I went more and more solo

got nowt against u

and sux gettin no solo fight anymore so me grp

 

[willowywicca]

The difference is that as a stealther you rely on stealth to aid in combat. The people camping the route to emain can set up shop and lie in wait stealthed. The hib stealthers running to emain are not stealthed and are pretty easy prey for those camping the route as they, generally, follow a reasonably fixed route and in relatively straight lines (with the obvious detours to aggro the occasional mobs).

However, going over it again wont help anything. People will continue to camp the route, hibs will continue to think it's lame and albs/mids will continue to try and justify why it isn't and soon it won't be a problem at all!

Yes, undoubtedly the first time they'll get the jump on you going emain.. but after that you know they're out there somewhere along the not very wide route to emain, so you can go back stealthed and fight them on fair terms.. yet people complain about not reaching emain for the nth time in a row.. which is just stupid since they should just kill the route campers rather than trying to get to emain to kill the mg campers instead..

 

[Polkadot]

Yes, undoubtedly the first time they'll get the jump on you going emain.. but after that you know they're out there somewhere along the not very wide route to emain, so you can go back stealthed and fight them on fair terms.. yet people complain about not reaching emain for the nth time in a row.. which is just stupid since they should just kill the route campers rather than trying to get to emain to kill the mg campers instead..

I agree - I don't understand why people keep running the route and getting farmed by the campers. If it's a soloer I'll go back and look for them or if it's more I'll just avoid the area they are. Doesn't make it less annoying the first time though

 

[Sparrow]

So we assume that you lose the first fight automatically because you're running unstealthed - second fight is fair.

Now here's a random example of an "Emain" (not really) session:

1) I pick up Hastener speed at Ligen, again at Ailinne, just before Breifine border I get jumped by a eBaystrel #714. He uses AP and eventually IP and I die. My ranger is RR2. Before you say rangers are overpowered, I find it very unlikely a minstrel who knows his class would've need either RA.

2) I pick up Hastener speed at Ligen, stealth out (in case he'd run there), unstealth after the hill and run to Ailinne, pick up Hastener speed, stealth not far downhill, continue stealthing to Breifine and past Reamonn. As I'm there I see eBaystrel #714's death message, to Spinesprout if I remember correctly. And there was much rejoicing. I guess he picked the wrong target.
Note that if eBaystrel #714' hadn't been stupid picking his targets and sticked to the low RR he would still have been there as I stealthed past.
Not 5 seconds after seeing another minstrel fighting a nightshade. Nightshade is at very low HP and minstrel obviously got the jump (why wouldn't he? The shade would be running unstealthed). My stance on Emain route campers being what it is I help dispatch him. I pick up Hastener speed from Bolg again and head towards Emain, finger on the stealth button in case of FG's patrolling. Not far down from Bolg, minstrel+infil pop from stealth and, surprisingly enough, manage to kill me. Back to Ligen.

3) I pick up Hastener speed at Ligen, again at Ailinne, stealth from Ailinne to Bolg. *sigh*. Stealth from Bolg to Ridge. Almost unstealth into none other than Evita, heading off to show off his button 10 skills to whomever escapes the other campers. Minstrel-count camping Emain route back at 2. Camps unknown. Shortly after I die to an AoD group with an infil in it.

4) I pick up Hastener speed at Ligen, see deathspam from the minstrel+infil duo, consider stealthing all the way to Emain, log instead.

My ranger is almost RR3, obviously good challenge for all these enemies.

 

[blackshadow]

Same as blackdeath , i've been soloing since rr3 tho the only point where you could find me with other stealthers is running out mpk and passing mmg , just for security reasons etc hate dying because of a stealthzerg camping mmg... oh and on amg i pop sl just to jump it

 

[TheBinarySurfer]

So we assume that you lose the first fight automatically because you're running unstealthed - second fight is fair.

Now here's a random example of an "Emain" (not really) session:

1) I pick up Hastener speed at Ligen, again at Ailinne, just before Breifine border I get jumped by a eBaystrel #714. He uses AP and eventually IP and I die. My ranger is RR2. Before you say rangers are overpowered, I find it very unlikely a minstrel who knows his class would've need either RA.

2) I pick up Hastener speed at Ligen, stealth out (in case he'd run there), unstealth after the hill and run to Ailinne, pick up Hastener speed, stealth not far downhill, continue stealthing to Breifine and past Reamonn. As I'm there I see eBaystrel #714's death message, to Spinesprout if I remember correctly. And there was much rejoicing. I guess he picked the wrong target.
Note that if eBaystrel #714' hadn't been stupid picking his targets and sticked to the low RR he would still have been there as I stealthed past.
Not 5 seconds after seeing another minstrel fighting a nightshade. Nightshade is at very low HP and minstrel obviously got the jump (why wouldn't he? The shade would be running unstealthed). My stance on Emain route campers being what it is I help dispatch him. I pick up Hastener speed from Bolg again and head towards Emain, finger on the stealth button in case of FG's patrolling. Not far down from Bolg, minstrel+infil pop from stealth and, surprisingly enough, manage to kill me. Back to Ligen.

3) I pick up Hastener speed at Ligen, again at Ailinne, stealth from Ailinne to Bolg. *sigh*. Stealth from Bolg to Ridge. Almost unstealth into none other than Evita, heading off to show off his button 10 skills to whomever escapes the other campers. Minstrel-count camping Emain route back at 2. Camps unknown. Shortly after I die to an AoD group with an infil in it.

4) I pick up Hastener speed at Ligen, see deathspam from the minstrel+infil duo, consider stealthing all the way to Emain, log instead.

My ranger is almost RR3, obviously good challenge for all these enemies.

This can be summarised as:

"WAAAAA i died on the way to emain a lot and didnt have the common sense to port to another zone"

Oh and I like a challenge - hence why i jump spinesprout when i get the chance - wheres the fun in killing someone you know you can beat - spine is very very tough in melee so gives a good scrap (think the running score is about 8-4 or better to him).

And i hunt HW/Odins mostly - your info is at least a month old.

Thank you and goodnight Going to HW shortly if theres any action might stay for a bit. Come fight me if you like piffany

 

[Puppet]

spine is very very tough in melee so gives a good scrap (think the running score is about 8-4 or better to him).

If you think Im too tough in melee you can try from range xD

 

[Phooka]

skillzz

Only fg's in emain from 10pm cet on

alb stealthzerg at 1 am

PE ganking poor cow duo

after 10 runs emain with 0 rps i had enuf.... ( if u say port odins or hadrians )
BTW wich brainiac thought it would be a good idea too giff Bonedancers instant DD ur nipples should be twisted at least 5 times evryday sicko!!

Soz just continuing qq i made this qq thread so i think i should be allowed too... And start in me grrrrrrrrrrrrr

 

[Elitestoner]

Lately its more retarded then ever; to name (and shame) a few of tonight:

3 Hibs in Emain at 0:45 AM CET (Acu, Evex and me); I attack

Doyou - RR5 infiltrator and he RUNS from me. Not once; but twice in a timespan of 1 hour. WTF is up with that; dont dare to fight me 1 vs 1? You got relics, are an assassin (with 2.5x specpoints I might add). Afraid of a solo ranger?

Later on I attack Garrak - RR6 scout and I get added on by Robber, Myrkula, Tracer, Outlander simultanously. Good game running groups of 5 at 0:45 AM, retards.

Serious tho: Whats up with that? You afraid of fighting me 1 vs 1? Some of those guys are RR6 (like me), and you ALL have the added benefit of relics.

Its just retarded lately; grow some fucking balls and try to solo abit more. You even dont have to run the entire road to Emain; you got the best stealther-class(es), relics and spec-AF (which rocks in stealth-wars)

Just think its stupid people like you dont dare to solo and some actually run from a 1 vs 1. Even more retarded; FIGHT fgs its not like you die IRL or loose money or something.. jeeez

LOL

ok today you, an almost rr7 ranger ml10, full arts etc met my rr3 zerk, with only arts being malice/battler (neither high enough to recieve melee speed etc from) u shot me with a total of EIGHT arrows of around 400 a pop, including some being from zephyr, using IP after the zephyr, then me finally reaching u at about 60% ish health.

what happens?

u take an end pot and sprint away at full speed.. i couldnt believe it tbh, u say get some balls and u wont even try me in that situation?

but hey, maybe im just that tough..

 

[Shadster]

same with me tbh phooka did 5 runs last night after i tryed to take some keeps back with my warden and to be ganked by mealstrom guild shame on you lot

first run saw a solo got beat fir play

2nd run died before getting to emain

3rd run saw solo mid urmmm where the fec them 5 stealthers come from 5 middies on me

4th got over amg got my first kills of the night made 2k before i die

5 run emain
got killed by more than a fg of stealthers after fighting near bowl


so i log cause cba

Started a char on another server last night so i got some other stuff to do than be rp farmed

one thing about u albs why the fec when peeps having a solo fight do you run from top of mg to get like 50 rps each to spoil a fight? stealth down see how fight goes and then all rush to kill but you are not only stealing rps from a fellow realm if he beats me but you are spoiling a good fight

 

[civy]

I did the same tbh, spent around 90 mins dotting and decoying near them trying to get them to do something, and never saw them kill anyone the whole time - in the end joined a few stragglers who were after them and cleaned them out

Heh. So for 90 mins you watched us doing nothing while you did nothing and you whine about it.


Yeah we did die. First hibs came with 2, then 3, then 5, then 7 in the end to kill us. Did we moan? No. We released and ran back.

And btw when we first went to HW, mmg was camped by a fg of hibs. Best make sure your own house is in order before criticising others.