Thane template

atos

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Oh yeah, another issue will be powerpool. Honestly I think thane spells should have a locked % value instead of a number for powercosts.
 

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Seems alright to me.

Im a hp monkey so im not gonna skim on that but see how much I can get in while still having fast castspeed from dex cap+%cast speed.
 

atos

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Dont forget +dex raises your blockchance. And I also imagine +11shield/parry would help our defence alot. (Gifv hybrid only gem with +11 all skills)
 

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Indeed powerpool is a issue and that are one of the reasons why I dont think Thanes will do that well in the casting area after all. They simply go oop to fast from a already very low powerpool due to no effect from piety buff and low piety already.

If you want to include more %power then its gonna be even harder to make a suit. On the top of my head I can only think of charisma and archer toa bonuses that thanes doesnt need.. :eek7:
 

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atos said:
Dont forget +dex raises your blockchance. And I also imagine +11shield/parry would help our defence alot. (Gifv hybrid only gem with +11 all skills)

I have +11 shield in my current suit. Wanting to raise caster stats tho for 1.82 and there simply arent room for it. Just have to comprimise somewhere..
 

Eithor

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The comprimising sux :/

Me myself will settle for no less than 330 dex (fullybuffed and augdex3) and 8% to toa castingspeed bonus.

A 1300~ hp caster should die in a few seconds with nukes each 1.2 sec :)
 

Aerendur

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For casting dex should be 310+. But above that the return in casting speed (especially with toa bonus) goes down to several points behind the . .

Also eithor, do you still go for 25 pie cap, or are you aiming for 209 pie with aug pie3 and saving itemspots for other stuff?

Working on my frosty suit atm and might aim for 15'ish pie cap and take in more hits and str in return.

And yes, powerpool is crazy. Will most likely drain power in about 7-9 casts. With 1.2 second casting, do the math! :(
 

Eithor

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Running around with 205 piety atm(209 absolute cap for me) with no aug acuity.
Think i'll let it stay there for a while (although i'm gonna try alot of different stats, ra's, specs, items in template to augment my casting).

20 piety cap, or so that i at least got 200 piety all in all with template and no aug acuity.

Power gonna go down fast, but i think i can do 17-23 (or something) nukes atm, if only the dd(but in rvr, the 2 instas make the power drain all the much faster :/ ).

Think i'll try and see the actuall dd's possible with 205 piety, will have to be after work, tonight that is.
 

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Since dex affect, castingspeed, block and parry... AND indirectly the melee dmg (the more you parry, the more you gonna land Lambast (and if 50hammer spec also more chances to land mjollnirs fury) i'll stick with my 330+ dex.

Have found out that with 320+ dex both the parry, blocking and the ability to land slam is nicely enhanced.
 

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I suppose I should try and rework my template and try and work more dex cap in than spell haste. But frankly I just can't be arsed. =/
 

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really annoyed that the race has such a big impact atm.

would have never gone troll if I knew these changes were coming. Low dex, low piety.. gg.
 

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With the changes I at first was kinda wondering if frostalf was the right race. But since you can get that pie cap easily and dont have to worry about that too much in template (15-20 pie cap can still be obtained from decent util items). Im actually quite happy with being one atm. Template can be based around other stuff instead.

Its still hard work for my template but Im gonna be basing it around 209 pie, 310+ dex and then see how far I can go for util and melee boosting. Hard part will be the shield, I like cyclops for its 'healer' looks and SL along with nice util, but swapping that means hits loss and such, which isnt that lovely. Best would be a shield with high +shield and casting stats, to switch with a big hammer of doom (malice probably) for 2 handed bashing.
 

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Hm, I had 15pie at start. So whatever I do I'll have 173 pie as a base afaik.
 

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Made a new version. =(

Config Report

Stats

Str: 100 Int: 0 Hits: 292
Con: 79 Pie: 79 Power: 0
Dex: 90 Cha: 0
Qui: 80 Emp: 0

Resists

Body: 23 Energy: 0 Crush: 27
Cold: 20 Matter: 5 (5) Thrust: 29 (2)
Heat: 24 Spirit: 7 Slash: 30 (3)

Skills

7 Axe

11 Hammer

3 Stormcalling

7 Sword

3 Parry

Focus

Cap Increases

15 Dex

88 Hits

5 Pie

20 Str

5 Qui

5 Con

Other Bonuses

6 Spell Duration Bonus

7 Style Damage Bonus

8 Spell Range Bonus

7 Spell Damage Bonus

6 Casting Speed Bonus

8 Melee Speed Bonus

10 Melee Damage Bonus

20 AF Bonus

6 Power Percentage Bonus

Piece Listing

Chest
Name: Guard of Valour (Thane)
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 40 Hits
Effect 2: 18 Strength
Effect 3: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 4: 18 Dexterity
Effect 5: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 6: 4 Melee Damage Bonus
Effect 7: 4 Spell Damage Bonus
Effect 8: 4 Style Damage Bonus
Effect 9: 4 Spell Range Bonus
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 34.00

Arms
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 22 Quickness - 99 precious Airy Essence
Gem 2: 7 Body Resist - 99 imperfect Dusty Shielding
Gem 3: 9 Cold Resist - 99 polished Icy Shielding
Gem 4: 9 Heat Resist - 99 polished Heated Shielding
Utility: 64.67

Head
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 7 Dexterity - 99 rough Vapor Essence
Gem 2: 28 Quickness - 99 perfect Airy Essence
Gem 3: 9 Heat Resist - 99 polished Heated Shielding
Gem 4: 9 Body Resist - 99 polished Dusty Shielding
Utility: 59.33

Legs
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 25 Constitution - 99 flawless Earthen Essence
Gem 2: 5 Cold Resist - 99 flawed Icy Shielding
Gem 3: 25 Piety - 99 flawless Watery Essence
Gem 4: 4 Hammer - 99 flawed Fiery War Rune
Utility: 63.33

Hands
Name: Maddening Scalars (Tank and Healer version)
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 40 Hits
Effect 2: 15 Constitution
Effect 3: 15 Quickness
Effect 4: 3 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 5: 3 Melee Damage Bonus
Effect 6: 5 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 7: 5 Quickness Cap Increase
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 30.00

Feet
Name: Lightning Imbued Boots (thane epic)
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 18 Strength
Effect 2: 15 Dexterity
Effect 3: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 4: 6 Heat Resist
Effect 5: 6 Cold Resist
Effect 6: 3 All Melee Skill Bonus
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 61.00

Right Hand
Name: Thurisaz Thane Weapon (1h)
Level: 51 Quality: 100
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 4 All Melee Skill Bonus
Effect 2: 7 Strength
Effect 3: 7 Dexterity
Effect 4: 3 Melee Damage Bonus
Effect 5: 3 Style Damage Bonus
Effect 6: 3 Spell Damage Bonus
Effect 7: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 8: 5 Acuity Cap Increase
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 29.33

Left Hand
Name: Arcanium Hapys Shield of Dread)
Level: 51 Quality: 94
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 22 Dexterity
Effect 2: 7 Slash Resist
Effect 3: 52 Hits
Effect 4: 24 Piety
Effect 5: 2 Casting Speed Bonus
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 57.67

Two Handed
Imbue Points: 0.0 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.00

Ranged
Imbue Points: 0.0 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.00

Neck
Name: Phoebus' Harp
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 4 Crush Resist
Effect 2: 4 Slash Resist
Effect 3: 4 Thrust Resist
Effect 4: 15 Acuity
Effect 5: 6 Power Percentage Bonus
Effect 6: 6 Spell Duration Bonus
Effect 7: 4 Spell Range Bonus
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 34.00

Cloak
Name: Shades of Mist
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 3 Parry
Effect 2: 15 Strength
Effect 3: 15 Quickness
Effect 4: 10 AF Bonus
Effect 5: 5 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 35.00

Jewel
Name: Atlantis Tablet
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 15 Acuity
Effect 2: 3 All Magic Skill Bonus
Effect 3: 40 Hits
Effect 4: 10 AF Bonus
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 35.00

Belt
Name: Black Water Belt
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 24 Strength
Effect 2: 21 Constitution
Effect 3: 21 Dexterity
Effect 4: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 5: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 44.00

Right Ring
Name: Ring of the Torrent
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 11 Crush Resist
Effect 2: 10 Thrust Resist
Effect 3: 10 Slash Resist
Effect 4: 2 Casting Speed Bonus
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 62.00

Left Ring
Name: Band of Shadows
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 7 Body Resist
Effect 2: 7 Spirit Resist
Effect 3: 6 Slash Resist
Effect 4: 6 Crush Resist
Effect 5: 6 Thrust Resist
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 64.00

Right Wrist
Name: Bracer of Heavenly Bodies
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 80 Hits
Effect 2: 18 Constitution
Effect 3: 48 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 4: 2 Casting Speed Bonus
Effect 5: 7 Thrust Resist
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 46.00

Left Wrist
Name: Ceremonial Bracer (str)
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 18 Strength
Effect 2: 40 Hits
Effect 3: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 4: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 5: 6 Crush Resist
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 34.00
 

atos

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Another tweak, swapped AT for KRaken's Eye for thsoe times you need extra spell haste and dex.

Config Report

Stats

Str: 100 Int: 0 Hits: 296
Con: 79 Pie: 82 Power: 0
Dex: 108 Cha: 0
Qui: 80 Emp: 0

Resists

Body: 23 Energy: 0 Crush: 27
Cold: 20 Matter: 5 (5) Thrust: 29 (2)
Heat: 24 Spirit: 7 Slash: 30 (3)

Skills

7 Axe

11 Hammer

7 Sword

3 Parry

Focus

Cap Increases

22 Dex

88 Hits

11 Pie

20 Str

5 Qui

5 Con

Other Bonuses

6 Spell Duration Bonus

7 Style Damage Bonus

8 Spell Range Bonus

7 Spell Damage Bonus

9 Casting Speed Bonus

8 Melee Speed Bonus

10 Melee Damage Bonus

10 AF Bonus

6 Power Percentage Bonus

Piece Listing

Chest
Name: Guard of Valour (Thane)
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 40 Hits
Effect 2: 18 Strength
Effect 3: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 4: 18 Dexterity
Effect 5: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 6: 4 Melee Damage Bonus
Effect 7: 4 Spell Damage Bonus
Effect 8: 4 Style Damage Bonus
Effect 9: 4 Spell Range Bonus
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 34.00

Arms
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 22 Quickness - 99 precious Airy Essence
Gem 2: 7 Body Resist - 99 imperfect Dusty Shielding
Gem 3: 9 Cold Resist - 99 polished Icy Shielding
Gem 4: 9 Heat Resist - 99 polished Heated Shielding
Utility: 64.67

Head
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 7 Dexterity - 99 rough Vapor Essence
Gem 2: 28 Quickness - 99 perfect Airy Essence
Gem 3: 9 Heat Resist - 99 polished Heated Shielding
Gem 4: 9 Body Resist - 99 polished Dusty Shielding
Utility: 59.33

Legs
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 25 Constitution - 99 flawless Earthen Essence
Gem 2: 5 Cold Resist - 99 flawed Icy Shielding
Gem 3: 25 Piety - 99 flawless Watery Essence
Gem 4: 4 Hammer - 99 flawed Fiery War Rune
Utility: 63.33

Hands
Name: Maddening Scalars (Tank and Healer version)
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 40 Hits
Effect 2: 15 Constitution
Effect 3: 15 Quickness
Effect 4: 3 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 5: 3 Melee Damage Bonus
Effect 6: 5 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 7: 5 Quickness Cap Increase
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 30.00

Feet
Name: Lightning Imbued Boots (thane epic)
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 18 Strength
Effect 2: 15 Dexterity
Effect 3: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 4: 6 Heat Resist
Effect 5: 6 Cold Resist
Effect 6: 3 All Melee Skill Bonus
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 61.00

Right Hand
Name: Thurisaz Thane Weapon (1h)
Level: 51 Quality: 100
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 4 All Melee Skill Bonus
Effect 2: 7 Strength
Effect 3: 7 Dexterity
Effect 4: 3 Melee Damage Bonus
Effect 5: 3 Style Damage Bonus
Effect 6: 3 Spell Damage Bonus
Effect 7: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 8: 5 Acuity Cap Increase
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 29.33

Left Hand
Name: Arcanium Hapys Shield of Dread)
Level: 51 Quality: 94
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 22 Dexterity
Effect 2: 7 Slash Resist
Effect 3: 52 Hits
Effect 4: 24 Piety
Effect 5: 2 Casting Speed Bonus
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 57.67

Two Handed
Imbue Points: 0.0 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.00

Ranged
Imbue Points: 0.0 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.00

Neck
Name: Phoebus' Harp
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 4 Crush Resist
Effect 2: 4 Slash Resist
Effect 3: 4 Thrust Resist
Effect 4: 15 Acuity
Effect 5: 6 Power Percentage Bonus
Effect 6: 6 Spell Duration Bonus
Effect 7: 4 Spell Range Bonus
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 34.00

Cloak
Name: Shades of Mist
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 3 Parry
Effect 2: 15 Strength
Effect 3: 15 Quickness
Effect 4: 10 AF Bonus
Effect 5: 5 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 35.00

Jewel
Name: Kraken's Eye
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 18 Acuity
Effect 2: 18 Dexterity
Effect 3: 44 Hits
Effect 4: 7 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 5: 6 Acuity Cap Increase
Effect 6: 3 Casting Speed Bonus
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 35.00

Belt
Name: Black Water Belt
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 24 Strength
Effect 2: 21 Constitution
Effect 3: 21 Dexterity
Effect 4: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 5: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 44.00

Right Ring
Name: Ring of the Torrent
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 11 Crush Resist
Effect 2: 10 Thrust Resist
Effect 3: 10 Slash Resist
Effect 4: 2 Casting Speed Bonus
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 62.00

Left Ring
Name: Band of Shadows
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 7 Body Resist
Effect 2: 7 Spirit Resist
Effect 3: 6 Slash Resist
Effect 4: 6 Crush Resist
Effect 5: 6 Thrust Resist
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 64.00

Right Wrist
Name: Bracer of Heavenly Bodies
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 80 Hits
Effect 2: 18 Constitution
Effect 3: 48 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 4: 2 Casting Speed Bonus
Effect 5: 7 Thrust Resist
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 46.00

Left Wrist
Name: Ceremonial Bracer (str)
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 18 Strength
Effect 2: 40 Hits
Effect 3: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 4: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 5: 6 Crush Resist
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 34.00
 

atos

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right, old thread, but can some mod move it to temaplate forum?
 

atos

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Honestly there msut be more comments? :eek:
 

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although i dodn't know much about thanes i think it's ok for soloing, energy is important for sorc mez too not only hib pbaoe but w/o det i bet u have purge2-3 so it's np
 

atos

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Energy wont rly matter. If I get bombed I'll have enough instas to interupt em. Unless they moc, at which point I would be dead even with 26% resist.

26% energy +det5 means I'll still be mezzd for way to long. So yeah I got purge 3 and I recomend that for all thanes. :p

The real reason for dropping AT is higher dex which will both raise my chance to land slam, castspeed and chance to block. But I'll still be able to trade in AT at anytime after landing that slam for the resist pierce.
 

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I like a bit the last one with AT. (and imo..if u r going to drop AT..u will only need to replace it with Darkness Stone..nothing else)

But tbh... i dont like the +parry , +shield and a bit too far from 200 pie (at least for my liking)
 

atos

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I recon thats because you play a frosty. :p

Even though I'm a torll I had 15pts into piety at creation. Don't ask me why, it just turned out that way.

Persoanlly I rather try and get more caps in that abit higher resists. Most resists are clsoe to cap already. =)

Agree about +skills. But tis the issue with thane templates, can't have it all.


I always have a shapechange or SoM up. As well as PH charge on top of that.

Since I'm a trol I find these vry valuble. A smell tradeback would be that I can't use the debuff selfproc with croc och wolfmode.
 

atos

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Pfft, you should be aware that I don't engade in melee if I can avoid it. Slam + doom hammer + kite + spells if I can. I will prolly resort too melee more when 1.84 is realsed. 50sword 50SC spec inc. =)
 

atos

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Hmm, I'll prolly get my ass handed to me when I come to think about it. Stealthers always purge all stuns anyways. Better hope for polar rift to land, heh.
 

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