Thane movie and some questions

[Spix]

Found a nice (first?) thane video.
Think it is cool since it is a unbuffed solo thane!!?

http://www.veganet.nu/chippe/daoc/Thegimp.avi

Will the thanes rise and shine in NF or will it still be twinked groups with the melee classes replaced with runemasters?
Or maybe bg thanes+healers+casters are a good setup

Anyway, dusting off my thane and wonder what is the best 1hand weapon and 2hand weapon to use, have only played my hunter lately so have no idea of the different melee class items/artifacts.

Also , does any thane have 50 stormcalling these days, I respeced out of sc some year ago and considering speccing it again since 50 hammer compared to 39 was not a big deal. Are SC damage ok now?

Cheers!

 

[Deleted member 4013]

Check this topic about SC https://forums.freddyshouse.com/showthread.php?t=24286

 

[Deleted member 4013]

Good movie. He uses that that one single hammer combat style tho almost exclusively.. I use that too but with a backup skill (which I dont remember the name of it as I am now at work writing this ).

Also the gear he has is very good, the armor is iirc ml7 drop?

So as a conclusion if you have a good gear, and spec'ed with high SC I believe you can do good dmg against solo players even without buffs.

 

[yaruar]

Good movie. He uses that that one single hammer combat style tho almost exclusively.. I use that too but with a backup skill (which I dont remember the name of it as I am now at work writing this ).

Also the gear he has is very good, the armor is iirc ml7 drop?

So as a conclusion if you have a good gear, and spec'ed with high SC I believe you can do good dmg against solo players even without buffs.

Personally i use block reactives with provoke as backup which works quite well.

High sc is pretty good these days. No real nead to go to 50 as the second self buff is good especially with +buff items from toa. Having a stardrop equipped when you buff is usually good enough. Personally i'm 48sc as the last dd is a reasonable spell these days.

 

[Deleted member 4013]

Personally i use block reactives with provoke as backup which works quite well.

High sc is pretty good these days. No real nead to go to 50 as the second self buff is good especially with +buff items from toa. Having a stardrop equipped when you buff is usually good enough. Personally i'm 48sc as the last dd is a reasonable spell these days.

Yep. I now have SC 48, and I must admit that I haven't regret that I respec'ed. And a good combination yes is to slam and then do some side/backstyle 2h weapon attack to the mob/person twice and switch back to shield + weapon. Ofc in case of one opponent.

 

[Lothandar]

Or maybe bg thanes+healers+casters are a good setup

Warriors with base 50% energy will make decent group members too.
I am looking forward highly towards the new aom.

 

[vintervargen]

o m g... just imagine beeing able to solo like that... gifv

 

[Deleted member 4013]

o m g... just imagine beeing able to solo like that... gifv

I am pretty tempted to test my char tonight in somewhere in frontiers. Lets see how it goes.. haven't been in frontiers since - I dont even remember when

 

[Lothandar]

I'd not base too much on this video, while he is semi-toa'd, his opponents are mostly infils,minstrels,paladins with not even SI gear, he also has gov,battler,heated magma shield, so not exactly equal fights. The only decent enemies were that alb with the flaming sword and the luri shade (but only because he got cd off)


He also has stick on qb, along with the weapons, sticks on opponents who strafe-trick (while /facing them basically negates the 'out of view' errors , concerning failed styles).


Not saying anything bad, but this is not a real measure of the thane classes abilities in nf.

 

[Lothandar]

Oh and different from US, the bb population here is a lot higher, in the video our thane friend has a str/con selfbuff, while his opponents don't, so this imbalances the fights in his favour.

 

[Spix]

Oh and different from US, the bb population here is a lot higher, in the video our thane friend has a str/con selfbuff, while his opponents don't, so this imbalances the fights in his favour.

Imbalances the fights in his favour? lol, thanes are supposed to be balanced with selfbuff, dmg add, dd. Buffbots punishes chars with selfbuffs like thanes, hunters, rangers etc, since mythic balance the game as they think we play, not how we realy play.
as they replyed to thane TL: thanes are fine...

 

[Bonehead]

cool! but not as cool as our own Excalibur MONTARLOO! xD

fun vid!

 

[noaim]

Wouldnt fear that thane in a duel more than I fear Blazor in a duel tbh

 

[old.Whoodoo]

/em stirs from his slumber...

Thanes....not gimped? Wanted in groups? Playable? Nah...after 2.5 years playing this I cant beleive my ears...or eyes.

Maybe the 32 days /played i took him getting to 50 might have actually been for some use?!? KEWL BRING IT ON!!

 

[Lothandar]

Imbalances the fights in his favour? lol, thanes are supposed to be balanced with selfbuff, dmg add, dd. Buffbots punishes chars with selfbuffs like thanes, hunters, rangers etc, since mythic balance the game as they think we play, not how we realy play.
as they replyed to thane TL: thanes are fine...

You missed my point. My point was he owns unbuffed enemies because a thane is better in unbuffed 1on1 combat, the str/con buff he has and others dont HIGHLY makes him more powerful than some of the enemy realm tanks.
Regarding TL's, the ranger tl was a 50 bow rest stealth roleplaying one so I don't trust TL's.

Said nothing about the thane being overpowered for gods sake.

But who will win, a briton armsman with lets say, 190 str and 155 con or a thane with (not sure how much the best str/con buff gives, it delves for 50) 250 str. and 205 con. He can have more with his buff, if he has 25% buff enh and the like.

He also has slightly more ws than the armsman he fought, blocked like, every blow from him, a thing you don't see in group vs group fights when everyone is buffed.


Buffbots punish soloing thanes maybe, not in fg vs fg combat as everyone is supposed to be buffed then.

I am just saying, without any objection on the thane being overpowered (where did I say that?) that the thanes have an easier time fighting with a self s/c buff which is quite strong with 25% buff enh tbh, versus enemies who don't have this kind of selfbuff.

 

[Blazor Meneth]

Wouldnt fear that thane in a duel more than I fear Blazor in a duel tbh

Lies

 

[Tinyheals]

can guarantee thane is probably atleast more fun to play, than a warrior savage or zerk when nf hits eu.

 

[Spix]

You missed my point. My point was he owns unbuffed enemies because a thane is better in unbuffed 1on1 combat, the str/con buff he has and others dont HIGHLY makes him more powerful than some of the enemy realm tanks.
Regarding TL's, the ranger tl was a 50 bow rest stealth roleplaying one so I don't trust TL's.

Said nothing about the thane being overpowered for gods sake.

But who will win, a briton armsman with lets say, 190 str and 155 con or a thane with (not sure how much the best str/con buff gives, it delves for 50) 250 str. and 205 con. He can have more with his buff, if he has 25% buff enh and the like.

He also has slightly more ws than the armsman he fought, blocked like, every blow from him, a thing you don't see in group vs group fights when everyone is buffed.


Buffbots punish soloing thanes maybe, not in fg vs fg combat as everyone is supposed to be buffed then.

I am just saying, without any objection on the thane being overpowered (where did I say that?) that the thanes have an easier time fighting with a self s/c buff which is quite strong with 25% buff enh tbh, versus enemies who don't have this kind of selfbuff.

I never said you said thanes was overpowered, just quoted you saying the selfbuffs was "unfair" since the enemy didnt have any buff.
What I ment was the buff is there to put thanes up to normal standard.
But buffbots simply negates it since everyone can have same or better buff.

And I doubt everyone would run around fully buffed in groups if there was no buffbots hugging the telekeeps. And killing the buffing chars first would make the selfbuffs worth gold.

Regarding the TL's, The thane TL did have alot of issues with thane adressed but mythic said thanes are just fine, dont think anyone agree with mythic in that case. Thanes are ok, but have alot of things that can be tweaked.

 

[Lothandar]

Hmmm ok, you didn't say I said thanes are overpowered, but I didn't say their buffs are unfair, I just said it balances the fight in their favour (or, imbalances the fight)(it does, doesn't it? Read my example about the arms versus thane)

 

[Spix]

Thane are on hybrid damage, armsman tank damage,

The thane in the movie have 39 hammer, 42 shield rest sc, 4 parry or something, not sure about the armsman but I would think he is somehow higher specced in weapon and have higher ws.

Anyway, I enjoyed the movie, even if its nothing special, I just hope there will be room for some one on one fights in euro nf aswell.

 

[etcetra]

Nice mirror though, downloading in 270 kb/s - compared to standard 120..

 

[Coldbeard]

hmm , downloading at 80 kb/s .. usually dl at 240-260, think my isp is bugging or something

 

[Dorin]

Thane are on hybrid damage, armsman tank damage,

doesnt rly matter what dmg table if buff vs no buff. I recall the times when no-buffbots were around and rangers runing around with self-buffs, pretty much owned anything (not me couse i was and is a noob ofc)

buff >>> no buff hybrid tables or not.

 

[Xplo]

You cas't the hammers of lagging spell! You have been disconnected ... press escape to quit the game.

 

[Spix]

doesnt rly matter what dmg table if buff vs no buff. I recall the times when no-buffbots were around and rangers runing around with self-buffs, pretty much owned anything (not me couse i was and is a noob ofc)

buff >>> no buff hybrid tables or not.

Ofc, but compare a thane with selfbuff and a heavy tank, the weaponskill is most likely even or more on the heavy tank. Thane with selfbuff struggle to get 1400 ws even with 50 weapon (with best selfbuff, no 50 weapon) while heavy tank probably have 1500+ ws unbuffed , I dont have a 50 heavy tank so dont know , but its my guess

And at the time with no buffbots, archers was pretty much overpowered, not because of the selfbuffs but shoot and hide with no counter. The selfbuffs made them good, but buffbots took that advantage away, thats what Im talking about.

 

[Tiki]

The movie is pretty average, unless the people hes was fighting were buffed and he wasnt. Mostly what i saw was high rr thane smacking low rr albs with dragonstorm.

 

[Lothandar]

Ofc, but compare a thane with selfbuff and a heavy tank, the weaponskill is most likely even or more on the heavy tank. Thane with selfbuff struggle to get 1400 ws even with 50 weapon (with best selfbuff, no 50 weapon) while heavy tank probably have 1500+ ws unbuffed , I dont have a 50 heavy tank so dont know , but its my guess

And at the time with no buffbots, archers was pretty much overpowered, not because of the selfbuffs but shoot and hide with no counter. The selfbuffs made them good, but buffbots took that advantage away, thats what Im talking about.

Wtf are you talking about, my warrior has 1367 ws unbuffed. Kobold, 13 str overcap, so 193 base str, 3 more than the usual briton armsman has unbuffed.

Please research first. Maybe a troll has 1500 ws, not a briton or a highlander.

 

[Lothandar]

So you say your thane got 1400 ws with the selfbuff, this thane dood seems kinda high rr to me so, maybe HE has 1500+ ws


Edit: And do you have toa caps on your thane? Since this guy has, I have no idea how much +str he has, but if 25 he might be able to reach 1600 ws with his s/c buff. High rr+toa caps + s/c is kinda nice on the ws.

Again, I assure you our thane friend has more ws than many of his contestants on that vid.

 

[Spix]

Wtf are you talking about, my warrior has 1367 ws unbuffed. Kobold, 13 str overcap, so 193 base str, 3 more than the usual briton armsman has unbuffed.

Please research first. Maybe a troll has 1500 ws, not a briton or a highlander.

Like I said Im not sure how much ws on heavy tank, and my thane do not have 1400 ws, I said struggle to get...

1367 vs 1400 no big deal tbh


And I dont care much if he had easy kills, was still afun movie to watch.

 

[etcetra]

Thane's are bad no matter what they do with them.

Thane's are not fotm, and they are not good. You will NOT find any unbuffed solo albs. You will die if you roll a Thane.