Tappi! Da leader of albs!

[Draylor]

Hibs dont even have 200 level 50's online most primetime m8. if u include evry sinlge one.

Which is why I was talking about Alb & Mid numbers.

 

[Runolas]

amazing how 40% to 34% suddenly becomes 400 to 100... where's the other 240 mids?

I did a who when you got inside the gate.

Uppland: 49
Odin's Gate: 26 (the force trying to stop Alb porting)
Jamtland: 8 (Groove cutting off inc Albs)
Yggdra: 205

Of those I guess as many as 50 were BB's

All: 485 or so...

At the most Midgard have been arround 600-700, but lately we've been arround 500. I dunno, but it seems that Albion is able to muster a 150-200 ppl zerg everyday and at the same time doing PvE. To anwer this we have to abandon PvE, but after a while ppl start dropping off.

We started out (the first week of NF) with a force that Imho was pwning pretty hard, but during the the week/end the numbers of defending ppl got less and was imho badly organized (not lead), too few balanced fg's etc. FoM members online have dropped from close to 35+ down to 18 last night, it's quite obvious that we were running out of energy.

It's easy to think of what one should have done and not, but the most critical error we made last night was the charge out of the relicwall that created chaos in the defenceline. Imho after seeing the Hippies taking back Glen towers we should have send the ppl taking back Glen instead of the towers, but then again we never know if the Mids would have got pharmed by Hibs on Glen or not.

With the constant pressure from Albies we were running out of "fuel" in the whole realm and in the end I belive the outcome would have been the same. NF is a fight between ALb's and Mid's and ALb's have the number to keep the prussere up for a longer periode of time, thus will win in the end. The Hib's are sadly redused to a minor factor atm. Usually running 1-3 fg's (roaming fg's) and at many points killing off the Mid Supplyline, making things even more desparate for us. It's easy rp's so I can understand why, but I really brougth us down.

I could see the Hibbies were trying to help us, but it came too late.

 

[Stallion]

thing is 90% of each solo alb is a rp cow, when they all go together, that rp cow gets bigger and bigger, and suddenly that rp cow starts to move and with its hugeness it makes the world collapse.

 

[Adoctor]

grats to albs i especially liked the charge at the southern relic gate last night.

btw don't be fooled by mid numbers...at svd there had to be at least 50 or so bots last night.

well at least i managed to kill some one with my catapult

cya in your homelands

btw fao Blindguardian....omg i think we spent 30 mins firing boulders at each last night at glen....i'll get u next time !! (or not )

 

[Smilewhenyousaythat]

I did a who when you got inside the gate.

Uppland: 49
Odin's Gate: 26 (the force trying to stop Alb porting)
Jamtland: 8 (Groove cutting off inc Albs)
Yggdra: 205

Of those I guess as many as 50 were BB's

All: 485 or so...

At the most Midgard have been arround 600-700, but lately we've been arround 500. I dunno, but it seems that Albion is able to muster a 150-200 ppl zerg everyday and at the same time doing PvE. To anwer this we have to abandon PvE, but after a while ppl start dropping off.

We started out (the first week of NF) with a force that Imho was pwning pretty hard, but during the the week/end the numbers of defending ppl got less and was imho badly organized (not lead), too few balanced fg's etc. FoM members online have dropped from close to 35+ down to 18 last night, it's quite obvious that we were running out of energy.

It's easy to think of what one should have done and not, but the most critical error we made last night was the charge out of the relicwall that created chaos in the defenceline. Imho after seeing the Hippies taking back Glen towers we should have send the ppl taking back Glen instead of the towers, but then again we never know if the Mids would have got pharmed by Hibs on Glen or not.

With the constant pressure from Albies we were running out of "fuel" in the whole realm and in the end I belive the outcome would have been the same. NF is a fight between ALb's and Mid's and ALb's have the number to keep the prussere up for a longer periode of time, thus will win in the end. The Hib's are sadly redused to a minor factor atm. Usually running 1-3 fg's (roaming fg's) and at many points killing off the Mid Supplyline, making things even more desparate for us. It's easy rp's so I can understand why, but I really brougth us down.

I could see the Hibbies were trying to help us, but it came too late.

I think theres a distinct element of revenge/payback involved from Albs to mids - it'll fade.

 

[Aussie]

mm bout the numbers

they say 200 mids in yggdra?
lets say 30-40 of them are bots
so tahts 160mids
then u had bout 50-60 mids standing in yggdra looking for grp or just being afk..
so that makes 100mids
then there were ALOT of mids running to the mg so thats bout 20-30 between vindsaul & relic mg
that makes about 80 mids @ mg vs 200 albs.

Now these numbers are a fact cause i logged in 5 mins and i saw ATLEAST 50mids standing at yggdra doing nothing and didn't even count all the bb's.

you're so pathetic xD
don't forget the 30 mids that went to the toilet that makes it 50 mids
and the 40 mids that crashed when the alb zerg arrived that makes it 10 mids

 

[Runolas]

As for all Mids...

...we are Mids and should NOT accept defeat, sobbing over the loss of 3 relics and getting outzerged is imho silly. We'll have to rest up and give them fight to remember.

 

[Cerberos]

you're so pathetic xD
don't forget the 30 mids that went to the toilet that makes it 50 mids
and the 40 mids that crashed when the alb zerg arrived that makes it 10 mids

Good thing we got you to inform us of the state of midgard, your insight into our realm is really good.

 

[Castus]

Anyone in the LFoM alliance not showing up to defend the realm at critical moments deserves to be told it's not ok. I doubt you were abused, but if you were it migth be a good clue to how frustrating the situaton has been for us. If you think of it Ardamel and most officers and members of FoM have fougth in the frontier 24/7, this is true for most guilds in the alliance as well. It really sux when we get wtfpned out in the frontier and see ppl in our own alliance giving us the "finger".

Your part of an alliance that has a crystal clear line with regards to defending our realm. You agreed upon those rules the day you wanted to be part of our alliance.

I did`nt sign up to any alliance or game to play 24/7 rvr.

 

[noaim]

Ok so you want a serious answer...back when I started this game saracen was not an option for casters (avalonians for teh win) Fish-people werent invented yet so everyone went Avalonian (I know I should have gone saracen) The game exists for 90% of hardcore gamers today and my avalonian sorc, half TOA'd is no match for the tons of SM's I meet that cast their dd's at lightspeed (talking 0.5-1 sec per cast)

You are correct that if I made a fish-sorc, got a nice set of TOA and put my points in Aug Dex 5 I would have a quicker caster than most of the mids, but currently Im not. (cba to compare casttimes on dd's and stuff)

Another misunderstanding is that all sorcs spec into 50 mind and body..people whine about the uber bolt mezz AND the huge damage they do...for those interested: even sorcs have to choose...go high body and hit for 500-ish but loose any decent mezz or go high mind and mezz all the mids you see but do 150-ish damage on your dd's....my current spec 47b 26m gives me huge damage (even had a few crits for 800+ last few days) but if I cast my lvl 24 mezz on a fg I can be sure that at least 75% fails...

About being funny about Ardamel...its just that whenever mids do something good they start posting "King Ardamel saved us" and now "his" relics are taken away from him I have yet to see the first post about him...

If you cant stand a joke you better quit posting..

Then I only wanna ask you this.

How many sorcs were around back when people thought qui was actually useful for casters, and how many were rolled after the range on mezz got increased? And was the rangeincrease before or after SI? (I dont remember).

Most (many) sorcs has been rolled long after Inconnus were introduced, so just because _your_ sorc is an avalonian with 10 qui, that doesnt mean that most are.

 

[Lothandar]

What in that message didn't u understand?

Stfu...

Lame

 

[Flimgoblin]

As for all Mids...

...we are Mids and should NOT accept defeat, sobbing over the loss of 3 relics and getting outzerged is imho silly. We'll have to rest up and give them fight to remember.

 

[Clipse]

10 midds versus 40,000 braindead zurging albs with unbalanced groups.

Grats btw

 

[Belomar]

Why do u ever bother to write anything here, u have not been playing the game for ages, so stop ur crap where sun does not shine.

Why do you ever bother to write anything here when you don't bother to read as well? It says in my signature (and has for some time) that I am now active on Mid/Prydwen. So what was it now again about reading simple stuff?

 

[erialor]

Then I only wanna ask you this.

How many sorcs were around back when people thought qui was actually useful for casters, and how many were rolled after the range on mezz got increased? And was the rangeincrease before or after SI? (I dont remember).

Most (many) sorcs has been rolled long after Inconnus were introduced, so just because _your_ sorc is an avalonian with 10 qui, that doesnt mean that most are.

My sorc is from pre-SI

10 int, 10 cha, 10 emp

thought charisma would allow for better interaction with npc's etc

--
Edit: just correcting some typos - nerf not writing from my own beloved keyboard

 

[Overpowered]

Mids have the most overpowered classes in game, making extreme damage while having an extreme amount of utility at the same time.

It's no wonder why many albs deleted and rolled mid instead..

Mid/Hib have more Fg friendly chars. Albs have more 2fg+ friendly chars. Now that its all about zerging, whos the powerful ones.. the fact that u got twice as many ppl in the field as the second largest realm doesnt make it better.

We need more numbers to beat you, mythic has balanced the game that way. You say that you killed twice as many albs before pre-nf in raids, with half as many mids. No wonder when your classes are completely overpowered.

Yes, we did, but that was due to good organisation and rapid deployment of forces, allowing us to hit weak spots etc. Not often u saw a Mid zerg throwing itself head on a force twice as big.. it happened, but then we got horribly pwned.

Now when we stand a chance and actually do something after the relics being owned by mids/hibs for years, all the ez-mode mid players start to whine because they may actually face a challenge in the game now.

Most of the ez-mode Mids (and Hibs I guess) leave because the less-then-stupid-numbers PvP is gone. U only have zerg v zerg now, not fg v fg or DF roaming.

Omg a challenge, no more instant pwn, lets quit this game because we can't take being losers.

QQ whine and quit already, you are trash. Weak pathetic fools that can't accept that you lost this time.

Yes, we lost. Actually we never had a single chance. We didnt have the numbers (or enough redbull) to beat the braindead hordes of Albion that threw themself in endless waves on our keeps. We have mayor trouble massing up a force capable of defending a keep against your hordes, meaning we dont stand a chance in hell to retake it (unless alarmclock-keeptake ).
Im not leaving game before I get to test WoW properly, but Im going to play Pryd, as excal have been destroyed by population inbalance.

 

[Aliorm]

Wich was the plan to do the RR? Get all albs at Sauvage and zerg?

Go Go Go! Aussie its ur time to do anything with ur stl0ng grps xD

Gratz to u albs! and Aussie!

 

[Smilewhenyousaythat]

Mid/Hib have more Fg friendly chars. Albs have more 2fg+ friendly chars. Now that its all about zerging, whos the powerful ones.. the fact that u got twice as many ppl in the field as the second largest realm doesnt make it better..

Funny - didn't think single grp effects extended to 2fgs.....

Yes, we did, but that was due to good organisation and rapid deployment of forces, allowing us to hit weak spots etc. Not often u saw a Mid zerg throwing itself head on a force twice as big.. it happened, but then we got horribly pwned..

Or radar as it was commonly known.

Yes, we lost. Actually we never had a single chance. We didnt have the numbers (or enough redbull) to beat the braindead hordes of Albion that threw themself in endless waves on our keeps. We have mayor trouble massing up a force capable of defending a keep against your hordes, meaning we dont stand a chance in hell to retake it (unless alarmclock-keeptake ).
Im not leaving game before I get to test WoW properly, but Im going to play Pryd, as excal have been destroyed by population inbalance.

You had the numbers and the opportunities - but just you keep using that as an excuse. 9.35 the power relic went neutral - after hours of fighting. No surprises, no late night battles - just good solid leadership and -yes dare I say it - tactical moves. When a keep was threatened we reinforced. When a tower was taken it was retaken immediately. We got a foothold, held it and didn't allow supply chains to be broken. You were outfought and outplayed.

So - enjoy yourself on pryd. You're no great loss.

 

[Aussie]

Then I only wanna ask you this.

How many sorcs were around back when people thought qui was actually useful for casters, and how many were rolled after the range on mezz got increased? And was the rangeincrease before or after SI? (I dont remember).

Most (many) sorcs has been rolled long after Inconnus were introduced, so just because _your_ sorc is an avalonian with 10 qui, that doesnt mean that most are.

sorcers with a mindspec line which only consisted out of 1500 range aoe mez and charm "some" yellow pets combined with a 139dd baseline nuke sounds so interesting and fun to play.

 

[Gethin]

Although I'm surprised of the rapid Midgard collaps it seems that in NF Mids n Hibs need to alter our strategy.

This is the truest set of words spoken on this subject so far.

 

[Lookdaddy]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA..... We win you loose!! :kissit:

Now stop whingeing like the retards you are and do something about it!!!!

 

[Overpowered]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA..... We win you loose!! :kissit:

Now stop whingeing like the retards you are and do something about it!!!!

Yep, going for a more pop balanced server. If u wanna follow someday, roll Hib/pryd please and not the most populated realm again.

/quit Excal
/enter Prydwen

/quit DAoC
/enter WoW

 

[Sendraks]

Most of the ez-mode Mids (and Hibs I guess) leave because the less-then-stupid-numbers PvP is gone. U only have zerg v zerg now, not fg v fg or DF roaming..

I must've imagined all the 8vs8 fights I've been in since NF came out then. Certainly if you want an 8vs8 open field fight, seems to me thats its pretty easy to arrange circumstances so you get one. Of course its not so easy to just use raw power to WTFPWN your enemies any more, as NF presents lots of opportunity for the tactically minded to overcome brute force.

NF doesn't force people to zerg. If people are zerging and they are enjoying it, then let them. People play this game to have fun, not engage in combat which is some other persons idea of fun.

 

[Flimgoblin]

Yep, going for a more pop balanced server. If u wanna follow someday, roll Hib/pryd please and not the most populated realm again.

/quit Excal
/enter Prydwen

/quit DAoC
/enter WoW

goodbye
have fun

stop posting that you're going and GO

 

[Overpowered]

Funny - didn't think single grp effects extended to 2fgs.....

Char with longest range in game.. char with most utility in game.. char with most AF/"stamina" in game.. char with highest range dmg output in game.. best boofer in game etc etc. Combining all this and u get one hell of a zerg. Think zerg, not emain.

Or radar as it was commonly known.

Or having stealthers spread out everywhere in the frontier.

You had the numbers and the opportunities - but just you keep using that as an excuse. 9.35 the power relic went neutral - after hours of fighting. No surprises, no late night battles - just good solid leadership and -yes dare I say it - tactical moves. When a keep was threatened we reinforced. When a tower was taken it was retaken immediately. We got a foothold, held it and didn't allow supply chains to be broken. You were outfought and outplayed.

So - enjoy yourself on pryd. You're no great loss.

Yes, we had numbers, but u always have higher numbers and what is NF all about again? Tower taken from Albs by 50 guys.. you bring 100 + the usual trebzerg. Keep under attack by 80? You bring 160 + the usual trebzerg. Any idiot can say "go take that tower." A good leader keeps casualities at a minimum, and seeing my RP count after NF u just threw yourself at towers/keeps. But the "bring loads more people then your opponent" tactic is A tactic so..
Outnumbered lead to outfought and outplayed.
U welcome to join us at pryd when excal empties. Please roll Hib/pryd and not the realm with the highest pop this time.

 

[Cerberos]

uke:

goodbye
have fun

stop posting that you're going and GO

Dont tell ppl what to do and what not to do.

 

[Sendraks]

Dont tell ppl what to do and what not to do.

Dont tell ppl what to do and what not to do.

 

[Cerberos]

Dont tell ppl what to do and what not to do.

k

 

[Smilewhenyousaythat]

Overpowered:

Just go. Now. To pryd or anywhere else for that matter. Your self contradictory, u turning whing is killing brain cells - not least yours. No matter how much whining you produce it is never getting your relics back. So grow up, grow a pair and shush!

 

[Gordonax]

With the constant pressure from Albies we were running out of "fuel" in the whole realm and in the end I belive the outcome would have been the same. NF is a fight between ALb's and Mid's and ALb's have the number to keep the prussere up for a longer periode of time, thus will win in the end. The Hib's are sadly redused to a minor factor atm. Usually running 1-3 fg's (roaming fg's) and at many points killing off the Mid Supplyline, making things even more desparate for us. It's easy rp's so I can understand why, but I really brougth us down.

Runolas, you speak like you're the only realm this has ever happened to. Remember back after Herbal/Lac's raids, when Midgard tried two relic raids in quick succession, and was constantly in our frontier? Albs then, much to Mids annoyance, didn't give up defending, and didn't go back to PvE. In fact, the ferocity with which Albs defended was cited directly as a reason for Ladonna's alarm clock raid that took the relics back to Midgard (NOTE: I'm not trying to restart the whole alarm clock raid debate here, just putting forward the facts about what happened).

Yet, when you have relics and we attempt to take them off you, a huge number of Mids don't bother. By Calo's count (I think) there were 400-odd Mids online during Tappi's second raid: more than enough to stop any realm, even Alb, from taking relics. But it didn't happen. Why not? I don't know for sure, but my suspicion is that after close to a year of having relics, the number of Mids who know how to effectively defend is pretty low. Add in the fact that NO realm has experience of defending in NF, and you're going to see relics changing hands much more often.

And note that "no realm": Albion has yet to be tested with a serious relic raid, and it will be interesting to see if we know how to defend. Of course, we have the numbers to defend - but there's more to defence than numbers. You can have all the numbers in the world, but if they're in the wrong place at the wrong time, you'll still lose.

So for the Mids who are complaining and talking of quitting, I'd say: Take heart. Work out how NF works a bit more and raid us. Don't just sit back and whine about how Alb can't be beaten, because until you actually test us out, we certainly don't know if that's true.