Sweden sucks...

[fettoken]

Have been working like a year straight now and am now getting paid by some goverment owned institution. Moving out of parents house aswell and got no time for anything else (than spamming here obviously) like jobs. While getting paid, they require me to search new jobs, so they send me some info on places they WANT me to search for.

So i wrote together a rather narcissistic CV to be sure i won´t get the job. But to somehow have persuade them that my time is precious and i would "consider" working at "such a place" as theirs under the right circumstances etc etc.
So i get called to an interview (whic i wanted to avoid at all costs) and i put on an act when i got there..... but.. i actually got the job >: The place is a good 30 km bus ride out of town and i can´t put it down, or else i won´t get any cash at all. So now i´ll be working in some kind of run down "ski resort", whic is an instult to any half decent ski resorts. Now i gotta think of some fool proof way to loose this job. This is Sweden in a nutshell.. fucking byrocracy and shit... gotta have a reason to pay me.. pffft.

edit: My english is a bit rough around the edges, so please bear with it...

 

[preacherboy]

Get some skis go down the slope break a leg?

 

[fettoken]

Get some skis go down the slope break a leg?

I broke my leg few months ago... not doing it again mind you

 

[Chronictank]

Have been working like a year straight now and am now getting paid by some goverment owned institution. Moving out of parents house aswell and got no time for anything else (than spamming here obviously) like jobs. While getting paid, they require me to search new jobs, so they send me some info on places they WANT me to search for.

So i wrote together a rather narcissistic CV to be sure i won´t get the job. But to somehow have persuade them that my time is precious and i would "consider" working at "such a place" as theirs under the right circumstances etc etc.
So i get called to an interview (whic i wanted to avoid at all costs) and i put on an act when i got there..... but.. i actually got the job >: The place is a good 30 km bus ride out of town and i can´t put it down, or else i won´t get any cash at all. So now i´ll be working in some kind of run down "ski resort", whic is an instult to any half decent ski resorts. Now i gotta think of some fool proof way to loose this job. This is Sweden in a nutshell.. fucking byrocracy and shit... gotta have a reason to pay me.. pffft.

edit: My english is a bit rough around the edges, so please bear with it...

karma is a bitch, grit your teeth and get on with it while actually looking for a job

 

[Jeremiah]

I cant help thinking of Spud from Trainspotting.

"Pleasure, at other people's leisure"

 

[kivik]

So you want to earn money without lifting a finger? Haha, great to see the new government actually make these parasites work

 

[Case]

why would any company even a government institution want you to search for new jobs and then be happy whe n you got that job? Am I missing something here?

 

[Fafnir]

Ohhh i'm so sorry you cant run around at home and get paid for it, but have to work. I guess we should let everyone just stay at home and get paid.

We got too many lazy ass whiners in our country who think its their right to get wellfare, instead of doin a honest job.

And you know what, it will be easier to get the job you want if you got working experience. And 30km? I know people who got 250km to get to work and they dont complain.

The only ones who should be allowed to be home is thoose who are really sick in one way or the other. Not people who are just lazy.

But thanks to lazy people we will after new year visit a doctor on our first day of sickleave. And alot of other stuff that we used to have, have been taken away.

Im just sick of all thoose people who's been "out of work" due to their own decision, getting everthing paid for them. But the sweet times are over for them now. But i guess next election the socialist party will be back and start paying for everyones vote again.

why would any company even a government institution want you to search for new jobs and then be happy whe n you got that job? Am I missing something here?

Think its about having one of thoose goverment made jobs we had where you just smooshed around getting paid. But the new goverment wants people to go and get real work so they can pay taxes instead of collect tax paid salaries.

I had two friends who 10 years ago decided it was to much work to go to their work so they found a doctor who gave them papers so they could say we are to sick to work. So for 10 years they had everything paid for them, apartment, food etc. and they even had money over to go on summer and winter vacations overseas. But finally the goverment are forcing them back to work.
Yes they just faked their "mental" illness cause they didnt want to work. And then we have thoose who have "black" jobs where they dont pay tax and still say ohh i'm unemployeed i need money from the goverment..

 

[Chronictank]

why would any company even a government institution want you to search for new jobs and then be happy whe n you got that job? Am I missing something here?

He was given a temporary placement and went onto welfare,
He is complaining he tried to scam his way into staying like that but his plan backfired and he actually has to earn a living

At least thats how i read it

nice one sweden \o/

Seriously did you expect people to help you leech off the system??

 

[Imgormiel]

wish that system was here in England tbh, I might feel as though I have some self worth. The title should be UK sucks, some of here want a job >(

 

[Fafnir]

He was given a temporary placement and went onto welfare,
He is complaining he tried to scam his way into staying like that but his plan backfired and he actually has to earn a living

At least thats how i read it

nice one sweden \o/

Seriously did you expect people to help you leech off the system??

You could and alot of people did when we had a Socialist goverment, but last year it changed and now the new goverment are changing things around. But guess the red wing will be back in 3 years.

 

[Case]

So your a waster leech on society who offers nothing and expects everything in return. The kind of person who spend other people money because your too lazy to get off your fat arse and work like the rest of us have to in order to support you while you play games all day? There`s only 1 type of person I hate more than people who pull this shit and thats paedophiles and rapists but hey each to their own

Ah now I see why didn`t you just say that?

 

[Jeros]

This is why i want to become a programmer/software enginner, 10 hours coding is not work for me, its getting payed 25-30k a year for somthing i would be doing in my own time anyway

 

[Huntingtons]

thats the problem for me - my hobby should not be under any curcumstances become my bread. would take the fun out of it. a hobby is something to look forward to when you can squeeze it in. for me atleast

 

[fettoken]

Well, thing is i didn´t want a job while i am moving and making all the preparations.. that would mess up everything. Its not that i demand to sit home while getting paid xD What do you take me for...

Oh, didn´t look for any pity of some sort. Just thought it was funny that i actually got that job ^^

@Cronictank: There is no such thing as karma, everything is just random events

 

[old.Tohtori]

I'm not going to even say a thing-...

ok...maybe this...

So while people who actually look for a job and try to fix their lives can get sh*t all and get f*cked out of every job opportunity they might get, at the same time people who try their hardest to do f*ck all about it, and even try to blow up job opportunities when they come, GET the job?!

F*ck. You. World.

 

[Lamp]

Sweden has lots of snow.
There are lots of people in Sweden
Therefore, there's a good chance, a fair few of them ski.

So why, when I recently watched some downhill skiing competition, was there absolutely no finalists from Sweden, or any scandanavian countries. Mostly Canadians & US & Italians. Not even any French !

If Swedish people can't ski, then I might as well get drunk.

 

[fettoken]

If Swedish people can't ski, then I might as well get drunk.[/QUOTE]

Sweden has lots of snow.
There are lots of people in Sweden
Therefore, there's a good chance, a fair few of them ski.

Yes, we call it logic... whic is more than i can say about the rest of your post.

 

[Lethul]

the sickest thing imo. is that you as a leech prolly get 14k SEK for doing nothing but being a fucking prick. And students get 7k IF they manage to get enough points of their exams...

 

[Raven]

You have got owned by your government for avoiding getting a job, now you have to work somewhere you don't want to or you get nothing

Sweden wins

Wish they did that in the UK

 

[Gorbachioo]

I'm not going to even say a thing-...

ok...maybe this...

So while people who actually look for a job and try to fix their lives can get sh*t all and get f*cked out of every job opportunity they might get, at the same time people who try their hardest to do f*ck all about it, and even try to blow up job opportunities when they come, GET the job?!

F*ck. You. World.

Well you know Toht..... i just have to say this now. From what ive read about your situation you have nothing to be bitter about. Theres plenty of jobs out there. Maybe not game design jobs but hey was your mistake to pick such an unreliable industry. Dont blame the goverment for it. In one of your posts you even blamed the immigrants for it lol. If i were a food critic and i complained that the goverment doesnt create me job opportunities as a food critic would you take me seriously?

Also, the money the goverment pays is enough to live in Helsinki. If you didnt manage then you should look in the mirror and see if theres anything wrong with your spending habits? Computers and booze maybe? I dont see why my tax money should finance your good life. Even the laziest bum should be entitled to a roof and food. But drinking and posting on internet forums is another thing.

I just find it so goddamn ridiculous that a man in your position has the nerve to be bitter. This country has done more for you than most countries would.

Im not trying a pick a fight here. Just saying you need to shape up and start apreciating the things you are given.

 

[Raven]

Even the laziest bum should be entitled to a roof and food.

Why? Why should people be expected to carry those that simply can't be bothered to contribute to society?

 

[Lamp]

Why? Why should people be expected to carry those that simply can't be bothered to contribute to society?

In the UK, if you don't actively seek for work, you'll lose Jobseekers Allowance benefit. But if you've got no money, you're entitled to income support, sickness benefit if you're ill, council tax relief, rent relief, and god knows how many other benefits. More if you've got kids.

So if you fake a back problem or depression, and you're skint, not being arsed to get a job won't make any difference. Benefits are still dished out.

 

[Huntingtons]

i agree with said title tho


sweden does indeed suck

 

[Bugz]

In the UK, if you don't actively seek for work, you'll lose Jobseekers Allowance benefit. But if you've got no money, you're entitled to income support, sickness benefit if you're ill, council tax relief, rent relief, and god knows how many other benefits. More if you've got kids.

So if you fake a back problem or depression, and you're skint, not being arsed to get a job won't make any difference. Benefits are still dished out.

I use to be sceptical of this 'giving benefits to those who earn lower wages - surely they're just less hard working?'

Unfortunately, the world isn't as black and white as this.

(Not at you directly Lamp - just quoting you)

 

[Olgaline]

I'm all for the sweden sucks part too

 

[Gaino]

reminds me when im at my meetings at work agency (arbetsförmedlingen) and i tell them that i am looking for job i my hometown and neraby but not to far as no driverlicense, and cant affor caus no money, and no money caus no job (evil trio) and i dont want to move atm caus i still have my baby daughter here that i see rarely enough, (about 48 days a year thx to her fuc*ed up mother)

ah ok the dude says and sends paper to apply for job at oter end of sweden

they done even listens to the people

and easy to find job ? heck no not even mcdonalds replies to my apps ><

 

[old.Tohtori]

Well you k*snip*gs you are given.

Well you know Gorb, buddy, pal... You haven't even read my posts as it seems, you have just graced through and took an "opinion" about them.

Where to start:

There arn't jobs, haven't been jobs, haven't gotten jobs and i've looked. More then people LIKE YOU who haven't had the bad end of the stick yet, think. I'm not just sitting around all day, i actually LOOK for a job, any job, anywhere. Just because i would LIKE a game dev job, doesn't mean i haven't looked at other jobs and i've said it a million times. I look, i try, i send out CVs, i ask about jobs, nothing has panned out.

the money isn't enough to live in helsinki, not even close, don't know what kind of a "sweet" apartment you got or what you think i'm getting for "being a lazy bum". I know why the cash wasn't enoguh, it was because i had too of an expensive apartment, but with some rent overdue, i couldn't change it or get a cheaper one. And the city won't help you either in that casse. It's a trap, one you have avoided, so good the f*ck for you.

Also, about your "tax money", how about what you've taken from the tax money? Or the 6 years i dished out taxes and paid for YOUR things? I've paid more to the government then i've gotten in return, when i needed it.

I'm just goddamn amazed how a man of "your intelligence" can only think i'm a lazy bum, don't do anything, collect cash and drink/play on internet, simply from a few posts, a few "i like scotch" remarks or the "haha i'm a drunk" thing.

I don't drink that much, sure, go out at times, i use the internet to hunt for a job, i use the cash i get to live/get food, but you...no wait...i take it back, i'm NOT amazed that a man of YOUR intelligence thinks those things. Things have gone tits up, and if you think it can't happen to anyone, you're in for a treat. I just WISH it happens to you so you can see it.

I can't be bitter? Why not? When people are wasting jobs i'd take with open arms, i've got every right to be bitter.

When it comes to immigrants, i never blamed them, EVER, i told that the f*cking goverment rather help them then their own. That's a fact, not a simple statement against the government. OR against immigrants.

This goverment hasn't helped me, no more then it is mandatory with minimal finance help, so you can stick that "hail finland" crap up your a** and go play your favorite "idiot" flute in some other place.

I'm not trying to start a fight here, just saying you seem like a basic goldspoon life, young(arn't you?), dickhead and mind your own business since you don't know sh*t about mine. I got my things together, just need to get them ALL together and someplace to live.

 

[Gorbachioo]

Well you know Gorb, buddy, pal... You haven't even read my posts as it seems, you have just graced through and took an "opinion" about them.

Where to start:

There arn't jobs, haven't been jobs, haven't gotten jobs and i've looked. More then people LIKE YOU who haven't had the bad end of the stick yet, think. I'm not just sitting around all day, i actually LOOK for a job, any job, anywhere. Just because i would LIKE a game dev job, doesn't mean i haven't looked at other jobs and i've said it a million times. I look, i try, i send out CVs, i ask about jobs, nothing has panned out.

the money isn't enough to live in helsinki, not even close, don't know what kind of a "sweet" apartment you got or what you think i'm getting for "being a lazy bum". I know why the cash wasn't enoguh, it was because i had too of an expensive apartment, but with some rent overdue, i couldn't change it or get a cheaper one. And the city won't help you either in that casse. It's a trap, one you have avoided, so good the f*ck for you.

I'm just goddamn amazed how a man of "your intelligence" can only think i'm a lazy bum, don't do anything, collect cash and drink/play on internet, simply from a few posts, a few "i like scotch" remarks or the "haha i'm a drunk" thing.

I don't drink that much, sure, go out at times, i use the internet to hunt for a job, i use the cash i get to live/get food, but you...no wait...i take it back, i'm NOT amazed that a man of YOUR intelligence thinks those things. Things have gone tits up, and if you think it can't happen to anyone, you're in for a treat. I just WISH it happens to you so you can see it.

I can't be bitter? Why not? When people are wasting jobs i'd take with open arms, i've got every right to be bitter.

When it comes to immigrants, i never blamed them, EVER, i told that the f*cking goverment rather help them then their own. That's a fact, not a simple statement against the government. OR against immigrants.

This goverment hasn't helped me, no more then it is mandatory with minimal finance help, so you can stick that "hail finland" crap up your a** and go play your favorite "idiot" flute in some other place.

I'm not trying to start a fight here, just saying you seem like a basic goldspoon life, young(arn't you?), dickhead and mind your own business since you don't know sh*t about mine. I got my things together, just need to get them ALL together and someplace to live.

The money is enough to live in Helsinki. Are you telling me there are no unemployed people in Helsinki? My uncle is unemployed and lives in Helsinki. If you couldnt afford your own place then it was your fault. Whether its your spending habits or too expensive appartment. Your fault either way.

There are jobs. Im guessing that you're just too picky. You got some fancy computer degree and you any think your too good for any "lower" jobs. Ive seen that happen. Many times. My uncle has an economy degree and hes too proud to work in crappy jobs.

As for me being unemployed one day. I suppose that could happen. But if it does i wont focus my anger on the goverment.

Im not suggesting that your an alcoholic or a computer addict. But i am saying that a man who can afford those two things without working doesnt have the right to be bitter.

Maybe some asshole in Sweden is more priviledged than you but 99% of the world have it harder than you. (As in get less money for sitting on their ass)

True, you didnt blame the immigrants. My mistake there. But you did blame the goverment for treating them better than you. Thats bullshit. Finland takes in very few immigrants and those who get in dont have any more priviledges than we do. Its alot harder for them to get jobs because of prejudice.

Mandatory finance help? So because you're finnish you feel its your right to sit on your ass and get paid for it?

The truth is that in Finland we all have equal chances. The son of the president goes trough the exact same school system as the son of the bussdriver. (Well almost anyway -,-). We are (along with rest of scandinavia) one of the most priviledged nations in the world. Everyone (everyone who's white anyway) in this country has the chance to educate himself and work as he wants. You also have the option of not working and still live like a king compared to rest of the world. Here you truly are what you make of yourself
and thats why i'll keep hailing teh great Finland.

 

[old.Tohtori]

The m*snip*reat Finland.

I'll try to explain to you, again.

Yes, like i said, my place was too costly, but if you have even a little unpaid rent, you can't get a new place. That's where the problem came. It was a good place, when i had a job, and i had everything fine then, but suddenly, out of the blue, i fell unemployed. You can't prepare for that, well, can but you have to learn it. You can afford to live unemployed, but sometimes situations are different.

You're guessing wrong, i've looked at all jobs, everywhere, but there just hasn't bene any. I've now gotten a job thing, but now the apartment is a bit of a problem. I'm sorting that out too, and not just sitting home like you think. Just because i've not gotten a job, doesn't meant there are an abundance out there. i'm not picky, not at all, but you don't ALWAYS get a job. It's a fact.

I'm not focuing my "anger" at the government, sure, things could be done more different, i think that, but i'm not blaiming and just sitting and shifting blame. I'm to blame also, i did things that in HINDSIGHT weren't smart and some things could've been done different, but you need to know them. First time around, it's a hazard pit. No blame, just criticism on certain aspects. Difference there.

Sure, can't be ALL bitter, but i was bitter on THAT subject. Keep them apart. Net and booze cost less then most thing aroung, and i've never used either if i can't afford it. I've got serious finance plaans to get through, so i'm not just freeloading as you THINK again.

What i meant with mandatory financial help, is that it's the oly thing they help with. They just don't offer any individual perspective. It's all VERY cut-throat, and if you were unemployed, you'd see this. Don't judge me for something you haven't done. it's not "mandatory help to sit on my a**", it's help to get me by, but the help is VERY limited.

What i meant by "don't hail finland", is that it's not as great as you might think. Like i said, you have to see the government system personally to notice the wrong parts in it. And i know that 99% of the world is worse off, but that doesn't mean i have to be all sunshine and fart rainbows because i'm doing "not so well" either.

I'm not complaining, whining, sitting around or being a bum here. The problem with people, no offense, like you is that you've never been in that situation and yes, if i was employed and never been here, i might say "it's easy" too. But the fact is, it's not, sometimes things go wrong, somtimes you try and try but don't make it. No matter HOW wellfare state you're living in.

Hope you understand it a bit better now.