Sweden and Denmark

[old.Tohtori]

actully if i remember corretly you ripped off your language from the Hungarians you cheeky gits!

in fact you're not Northerens, you're Eastern Europe! AHAHHAHA polish sluts.

all danes suck, im sorry to say it but its true...

execpt me.

Actually we're part of scandinavia, always have been, from ze early days of pre-christianity etc.

Denmark on the other hand is like that lil a**fly hanging about cool kids and desperately trying to be "Scandic"

 

[Blackjack]

Actually we're part of scandinavia, always have been, from ze early days of pre-christianity etc.

Denmark on the other hand is like that lil a**fly hanging about cool kids and desperately trying to be "Scandic"

Considering the Kalmar Union, the least scandinavian country up here is Finland.
Also taking into account that your language is Uralic, as opposed to Denmark, Sweden and Norway's North Germanic. I think it's pretty obvious that if anyone is trying to hang out with the scandinavians, it's you!

 

[old.Tohtori]

Considering the Kalmar Union, the least scandinavian country up here is Finland.
Also taking into account that your language is Uralic, as opposed to Denmark, Sweden and Norway's North Germanic. I think it's pretty obvious that if anyone is trying to hang out with the scandinavians, it's you!

Well comes down to which way you look at it really;

Which, uralic or germanic, is really the original and best northern way in language.

Or, geographically thinking where the original tribal settlements were.

 

[Blackjack]

Well comes down to which way you look at it really;

Which, uralic or germanic, is really the original and best northern way in language.

Or, geographically thinking where the original tribal settlements were.

The Vikings that made the difference in the north/northwestern europe were from Denmark/Norway/sweden. And Uralic takes it name from Ural mountains in Russia.
North Germanic followed Old Norse and Proto Norse.. i think it's pretty obvious which is the northern, and which is the eastern

 

[old.Tohtori]

The Vikings that made the difference in the north/northwestern europe were from Denmark/Norway/sweden. And Uralic takes it name from Ural mountains in Russia.
North Germanic followed Old Norse and Proto Norse.. i think it's pretty obvious which is the northern, and which is the eastern

But where those tribes of Norway, and Sweden(denmark was germanic for sure) originated is under dispute. Some say that Finland may have been infact a mainhub for many of the viking tribes(like the rus, who then moved to form russia, or rusland) and that most of northern tribes might hav been lead from finnish soil.

Also, Finns have been around for a long long time, thousands even.

Also, some studies show that we're actually from both western and eastern as well as germanic, which only enforces the "hub" theory.

The reason why norway, sweden and denmark are reknown in the modern "viking lore" is because they f*cked english and other people up so much

 

[kivik]

I think the swedish/norwegian native indian tribes, 'samer' in swedish, also have a language that is Uralic.

 

[old.Tohtori]

I think the swedish/norwegian native indian tribes, 'samer' in swedish, also have a language that is Uralic.

Aye, same as with "samelaiset"(finnish) or "sami" people, i think in english language, are the aboriginals.

This would mean that originally, all northern (sweden/norway/finland) were part of a larger "tribe" society.

Basically the "scandinavia" originals came here from the same places, some germanic and some uralic, after the ice age and as such, we're basically the same peeps and as such, hell, denmark falls off

 

[Blackjack]

Again, the Samer/sami whatever you want to call them, is something you share with Russia, thus making it a more Northeastern european people, than a north/western european. Which is the scandinavian area incl. Iceland and the Faroe Islands.

"Scandinavia is a historical and geographical region centred on the Scandinavian Peninsula in Northern Europe which includes the kingdoms of Norway, Sweden and Denmark. The other Nordic countries; Finland and Iceland, are sometimes included because of their close historic and cultural connections to Denmark, Norway and Sweden. Their inclusion stems from the seemingly interchangeable nature of the terms 'Nordic' and 'Scandinavian'.
"

 

[old.Tohtori]

Again, the Samer/sami whatever you want to call them, is something you share with Russia, thus making it a Northeastern european people, not a north/western european. Which is the scandinavian area incl. Iceland and the Faroe Islands.

"Scandinavia is a historical and geographical region centred on the Scandinavian Peninsula in Northern Europe which includes the kingdoms of Norway, Sweden and Denmark. The other Nordic countries; Finland and Iceland, are sometimes included because of their close historic and cultural connections to Denmark, Norway and Sweden. Their inclusion stems from the seemingly interchangeable nature of the terms 'Nordic' and 'Scandinavian'.
"

But that's bull really.

There is no samer/sami in the russian region, not even closely related, only relation comes from viking migration. As i've stated, Rus clan moving there from northern countries. We DO have relation via sami/samer via sweden and norway though.(nit sure about norway)

Scandinavia as a "part of geology" is different then what you said originally in the language based.

Not to mention, areas formed under christian rule are pishposh. Real history comes from the earlier days.

Nordic is sweden/norway/finland and later iceland.
Scandic is generally all five, but geologically you could claim only norway/sweden/denmark being scandic.

 

[Blackjack]

But that's bull really.

There is no samer/sami in the russian region, not even closely related, only relation comes from viking migration. As i've stated, Rus clan moving there from northern countries. We DO have relation via sami/samer via sweden and norway though.

Scandinavia as a "part of geology" is different then what you said originally in the language based.

Not to mention, areas formed under christian rule are pishposh. Real history comes from the earlier days.

Nordic is sweden/norway/finland and later iceland.
Scandic is generally all five, but geologically you could claim only norway/sweden/denmark being scandic.

Dude, you are fighting the a losing battle here.. it's all in the history books. Scandinavia is Denmark/Norway/Sweden... Finland are included because of their ties to us. and the fact that you are located in the north.

And as for Sami...

There is no samer/sami in the russian region, not even closely related

"The Sami people are an indigenous people of northern Europe inhabiting Sápmi, which encompasses parts of northern Sweden, Norway, Finland and the Kola Peninsula of Russia."

 

[old.Tohtori]

Dude, you are fighting the a losing battle here.. it's all in the history books. Scandinavia is Denmark/Norway/Sweden... Finland are included because of their ties to us. and the fact that you are located in the north.

And as for Sami...

"The Sami people are an indigenous people of northern Europe inhabiting Sápmi, which encompasses parts of northern Sweden, Norway, Finland and the Kola Peninsula of Russia."

And like i said, it's according to the "christian" history books as very little was written, as an example, in finland pre-1400.

The more they learn from excavations and historical, the more they are showing how the relations between sweden, norway, etc etc began and were formed and how the relations are actually vice versa.

Geologically, sure, finland may not have been part of it originally, but these days is.

About sami, yes, parts of russai were inhabited also, but they weren't originally there. Sami people migrated from the sweden/norway/finnish area.

Like i said earlier, you're looking at it from a different viewpoint.

 

[Gorbachioo]

Incase this hasnt been mentioned yet.


Finns are genetically from Europe but our language originates from the east.

 

[Blackjack]

And like i said, it's according to the "christian" history books as very little was written, as an example, in finland pre-1400.

The more they learn from excavations and historical, the more they are showing how the relations between sweden, norway, etc etc began and were formed and how the relations are actually vice versa.

Geologically, sure, finland may not have been part of it originally, but these days is.

About sami, yes, parts of russai were inhabited also, but they weren't originally there. Sami people migrated from the sweden/norway/finnish area.

The fact that you have strong ties to Norway and Sweden is not what i was discussing no. It was the fact that you refferred to Denmark and the "assfly" who tried to hang out with the cool kids that were "real" scandinavia. And i was just pointing out that Denmark/Norway/Sweden IS the core of what people know as scandinavia. And could in no way be seen as a tag along country. And there would be no scandinavia without Denmark, or without Norway... or Sweden (no matter how we might feel about them)

If you want to state that Finland has stronger ties with Sweden than Denmark... For the love of god, take them. They are like a red headed step child anyway

 

[old.Tohtori]

The fact that you have strong ties to Norway and Sweden is not what i was discussing no. It was the fact that you refferred to Denmark and the "assfly" who tried to hang out with the cool kids that were "real" scandinavia. And i was just pointing out that Denmark/Norway/Sweden IS the core of what people know as scandinavia. And could in no way be seen as a tag along country. And there would be no scandinavia without Denmark, or without Norway... or Sweden (no matter how we might feel about them)

If you want to state that Finland has stronger ties with Sweden than Denmark... For the love of god, take them. They are like a red headed step child anyway

Well i just noticed something i missed, and that was that you based this scandinavia to the kalmar union, hwich came after 1100. I base it on pre-kalmar as scandinavia was considered to exist before it. As christianity f*cked up vikings and the real scandic anyway

And no i don't want ties with denmark, but i do say we have stronger ties to sweden(originally) then the swedes do with the danish

 

[Blackjack]

Well i just noticed something i missed, and that was that you based this scandinavia to the kalmar union, hwich came after 1100. I base it on pre-kalmar as scandinavia was considered to exist before it. As christianity f*cked up vikings and the real scandic anyway

And no i don't want ties with denmark, but i do say we have stronger ties to sweden(originally) then the swedes do with the danish

I'm not even basing it on the Kalmer union, even pre Kalmar, the Danish were just as much of a nordic country as Norway or Sweden. We had our Vikings and such.

The border for the "viking states" in the lack of a better term, ended somwhere in northern germany. So culturally we were never parted from Norway/Sweden. Even before Kalmar.

Hell, the danes, swedes and norwiegians started out as the same friggin' germanic tribe.
Finland might be geographicly located further north than denmark. But in terms of culture both ancient and newer. Denmark has never been seperate from the other 2 nordic countries. Kalmar or no Kalmar

 

[Maeloch]

Finns related to Estonians, no? Also some other tribes in the Baltic which exict now (livonians iirc)?

 

[old.Tohtori]

I'm not even basing it on the Kalmer union, even pre Kalmar, the Danish were just as much of a nordic country as Norway or Sweden. We had our Vikings and such.

The border for the "viking states" in the lack of a better term, ended somwhere in northern germany. So culturally we were never parted from Norway/Sweden. Even before Kalmar.

Hell, the danes, swedes and norwiegians started out as the same friggin' germanic tribe.
Finland might be geographicly located further north than denmark. But in terms of culture both ancient and newer. Denmark has never been seperate from the other 2 nordic countries. Kalmar or no Kalmar

Ah but that i can say that "i was wrong as i was merely joking about danes", but i have to say that the fins are as much part of pre-kalmar scandinavia.

I guess we agree in some way, and both were wrong

About the same tribe thing that's a whole nother thing and really hard to discuss as there's so little HARD evidence about it. You'd really like if i said "actually it's believed the scandic/nordic viking tribes started from two big ones, one of denmark+norway and one of sweden+finland

Damn christians

 

[Blackjack]

Ah but that i can say that "i was wrong as i was merely joking about danes", but i have to say that the fins are as much part of pre-kalmar scandinavia.

I guess we agree in some way, and both were wrong

About the same tribe thing that's a whole nother thing and really hard to discuss as there's so little HARD evidence about it. You'd really like if i said "actually it's believed the scandic/nordic viking tribes started from two big ones, one of denmark+norway and one of sweden+finland

Damn christians

That's ok, don't call my country name

I can live with that.
We get Norway, you get Sweden

 

[Wonk]

why are everybody suddenly talking about Carl-Mar?

 

[Blackjack]

why are everybody suddenly talking about Carl-Mar?

Ahh yes... that guy. Maybe we can sell him to the swedes

 

[CorNokZ]

Ahh yes... that guy. Maybe we can sell him to the swedes

You don't sell National Treasures!

 

[Blackjack]

You don't sell National Treasures!

If the National treasure looks like this;

And can't form a sentence without including genetalia... you do.

 

[old.Tohtori]

That's ok, don't call my country name

I can live with that.
We get Norway, you get Sweden

Agreed.

From here forth, there will be two nations: Great United Nation of Finden and The Mighty allied Coalition of Denway.

 

[kivik]

Great United Nation of Finden

Why not 'The Great Penis'!

 

[Levin]

Why not 'The Great Penis'!

I can't see your pic there as it looks like a big red X, but the surely the Great Penis would be Sweden+Norway? At least my Canadian gf thinks it looks like it!

 

[old.Tohtori]

Why not 'The Great Penis'!

Oh that's just wonderful. The Great Penis, pissing all over denmark

 

[Gorbachioo]

I can't see your pic there as it looks like a big red X, but the surely the Great Penis would be Sweden+Norway? At least my Canadian gf thinks it looks like it!

Southern Finland is the scrotum and Sweden is the penis.

Clear now?

 

[Levin]

Southern Finland is the scrotum and Sweden is the penis.

Clear now?

Ah, yes. Well, with Sweden+Norway it looks like a dick too, so.. either way!

 

[Blackjack]

Oh that's just wonderful. The Great Penis, pissing all over denmark

By the looks of things, it's a mighty limp penis... completely missing Denmark (apart from Bornholm.. and tbh, being flooded with pee wont make that much of a difference to that island)

 

[Olgaline]

brings a whole new meaning to "big old softy" tho doesnt it ?