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finbahr

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i think i'd plce my money on nature druid but close with an aug healer
 
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finbahr

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Originally posted by Puppetmistress
Shaman only wins because you cant catch him without speed and people will get bored chasing him and will just give up and sit.

Ultimate kite-class I suppose.
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so a bard would not cast a shammy?
 
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finbahr

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1 thing why not warden and friar ...still go nature druid my gm has a nature druid and my warden always gets his ass handed to him on a plate pet is a bastad
 
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Balbor

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someone should of named this 'resions to give clerics more love' cause i always thought smite clerics were suposed to be the hardest primary healers.
 
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Shike

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Originally posted by Balbor
someone should of named this 'resions to give clerics more love' cause i always thought smite clerics were suposed to be the hardest primary healers.
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where did you get that idea from? I cant see it anywhere on Mythics homepage.
 
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old.Jeriraa

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From a Mid point of view (cant really talk about the other realms):

Aug healers can only be killed if you dont have to hit them in melee. The odd Aug/Mend healer has 2 instant heals.

Cave Shaman vs Aug Healer - dead Shaman (dot can be purged, kiting can be prevented by stun/mezz)
Smite Cleric vs Aug Healer - hard to say who wins... Cleric most likely
Friar vs Aug Healer - Dead Friar (cant beat 4000hps)
Battle Bard vs Aug Healer - Bard goes down (if he doesnt insta mezz and run off ;))
Battle Druid vs Aug Healer - Druid is dead meat since dot can be purged and the pet dies fast from the healers damage shield


Cave Shamans have to get some distance between them and their opponent. Anything that has speed, end regen or a form of ranged interrupt beats them.

Cave Shaman vs Smite Cleric - dead Shammy
Cave Shaman vs Friar - Dead Shammy
Cave Shaman vs Battle Bard - Dead Shammy
Cave Shaman vs Battle Druid - Dead Druid most likely
 
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hangianix

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Originally posted by old.Jeriraa
Smite Cleric vs Aug Healer - hard to say who wins... Cleric most likely
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Defo the aug healer. Insta mezz can be purged, and aug healer has high spirit resist. Dmg shield > 20 sec insta dd on 50% resist + some will be totally resisted. Even with working insta mezz, aug healer has better chance due to longer range of their spells. (Sprint away, mezz, stun etc, heal up and melee).
 
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hangianix

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Originally posted by old.Jeriraa
Cave Shaman vs Smite Cleric - dead Shammy
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It's only true if cleric can get in 1350 range and actually cast once, or even better from melee - 300 range. Wouldnt be a short fight due to instas (tho with disease instas heal only 50%).
 
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old.Jeriraa

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Originally posted by hangianix
It's only true if cleric can get in 1350 range and actually cast once, or even better from melee - 300 range. Wouldnt be a short fight due to instas (tho with disease instas heal only 50%).
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Get diseased, wait for dot, purge and sprint.

I'm soloing buffed Infis like this with my healer... get pa'd, attack, wait for DF, purge, insta heal and kill.

Ofcourse you can now claim that duels have to be fought without RA's but thats silly imho. Its even more unrealistic claiming that your enemy wont use his RA's than assuming a fight Shammy vs Smite Cleric will ever happen without outside interference.
 
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hangianix

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Originally posted by old.Jeriraa
Get diseased, wait for dot, purge and sprint.

I'm soloing buffed Infis like this with my healer... get pa'd, attack, wait for DF, purge, insta heal and kill.

Ofcourse you can now claim that duels have to be fought without RA's but thats silly imho. Its even more unrealistic claiming that your enemy wont use his RA's than assuming a fight Shammy vs Smite Cleric will ever happen without outside interference.
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Get diseased, wait for dot, purge and sprint. Well, kinda stupid shammy if he just stay there after dot and not sprinting away. About RAs, if you read my earlier post, you see that I also mentioned purge so I didn't/don't claim it's a duel ;)

I had 2 fights vs solo shaman and 2 fights vs aug healer (tho all of them kinda long time ago).

I killed both shaman due to the small range (they were ~ 500 from me) and the fact: I got the jump on them. Against aug healers, it's 1:1. 1st one was Mordia, who killed me tho I could mezz/stun etc her, but later he just outdmg me with quicker hits and dmg shield (was a close call tho), cant remember the name of the other one who I killed, but only cause he hadnt got rdy instas.

ps: off to college, can continue later :)
 
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