Suicide

Melachi

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Right, I know alot of you have probably tought about doing it, but for god sake dont ever do it. Seriously Im not lookin for sympathy, ive had a million people trying to confort me and Im alright. It hasnt sunk in. Very very long time friend just took his own life two weeks ago and its messed up.

I imagine he tought he was doing everyone a favour, but jaysus was he wrong. Seriously if any of you did/are think(ing) about it, think rationaly alot of people actually do care. Seriously, youd be surpised how many and such old friends will take it hard. Tis not right at all, hits so many people.

I dunno if any of you will take this to heart, but for fuck sake if its the last thing I do, is to make you lads realise its so messed up the state it leaves when someone takes their own life. No problem in life is that serious that you have to end it all.
 

Ezteq

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aw hun, i hope your coping better now, they do say (whoever they are) that it's always the ones that get left behind that suffer (which if you break it down is a bit daft because the one who died is gone and wont be suffering so...) but if you look past the silliness of that saying you see that actually yes it is true.

if youve had something like this happen to you just try (i know its hard) and see that the person who's gone did what they wanted, it wasnt anything against you, there was absoloutely nothing you could have done to stop it, do not feel guilty they did it for their own reasons.


take care bud, youll get through it.

Ez
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Himse

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=( just work through it mate, hopefully you get better soon
 

ElemenT

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A friend of ours commited suicide a couple of years ago. Hung himself in his garage when his parents were out for a weekend. Pretty disturbing when you get the news a guy you've known almost 20 years killed himself over a stupid thing if you think about it. But I'm not going to say why.

Sometimes when you think people won't care... well, there are over 150 seats in the church here, all seats were taken and they almost couldn't get through with his cascet(right?) because there were so many people.

In bad times, you get to know your friends. (or something like that anyways)

Sadly enough it was too late.
 

Conchabar

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one must not dwell on such things.. depression is a state of mind.. to commit suicide is a pathetic mans way out and shows poor character.. if one does decide to do such an act one must also contemplate the reaction of such a crime :m00:
 

Dandare

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I know it seems impossible at the moment and so soon after,the same thing happened to me about 10 months ago now,but it WILL work out bud honest.
Main thing that troubled me so much for 2 months after my friend Tim did it was why why why :(
But I came to thinking after a while I will never know why for sure as I'm myself and can't think like my friend did.
It does get easier honest,try to think of the laughs you shared and not in a way that is gonna upset you but in a way like it's part of your life that you enjoyed but has now gone.
At my friends funeral last year after seeing 240 people turn up,his sister read his last letter out,seeing his 2 kids crying two words came into my head
Selfish Bastard.
I beat myself up over feeling like this for a while,but after all is is an act of selfishness.
Just try not to think all the what if's and why's mate and I hope you get through it,It's one of the hardest things I have had to accept in my life and I wish you all the best.
Nearly a year has passed now since Tim took his life and I've just managed to put his picture back up in our living.
Dan. :(
 

Sauruman

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You get a trip to jail for life, in some countries, if you're caught trying to suicide and you can't pull it off. Don't agree with this, what they should do is get psychologists to treat that person.
 

Morchaoron

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Sauruman said:
You get a trip to jail for life, in some countries, if you're caught trying to suicide and you can't pull it off. Don't agree with this, what they should do is get psychologists to treat that person.

Well if i wouldnt ever be forced to get treated by any psychologist and his quasi-science i would get suicidal thats for sure ;o
 

Morchaoron

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would, not wouldnt (fking FH "YOU CANNOT EDIT AFTER 10 MINUTES" thing)
 

Punishment

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Morchaoron said:
would, not wouldnt (fking FH "YOU CANNOT EDIT AFTER 10 MINUTES" thing)

Im sure u mean well as we all do m8 .

Well we have all given it a few minutes thought , but all u have to do is watch a loved one slip away in hospital and it will soon stop those thoughts , the grit and determination of a person to hang onto life is an amazing thing to behold .

There is always a reason to hang on , but sadly some people arent always as strong all the time , but that being said to die alone takes great strength :(

Im sure your friend is at peace now , all u can do is accept his decision and remember better times :)

Stay stlong meight
 

Morchaoron

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Morchaoron said:
Well if i wouldnt ever be forced to get treated by any psychologist and his quasi-science i would get suicidal thats for sure ;o
SECOND CORRECTION:

now i make it look like i was treated, the correct sentence must be:


Well if i would ever be forced to get treated by any psychologist and his quasi-science i would get suicidal thats for sure ;o



but anyway, the way i see it: you can alter how you feel in life, and i doubt you can do that in the eternal void of death, just think about that... ;o
 

Conchabar

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lol i just realised suicide is eternal damnation in nearly all religions rofl
 

Morchaoron

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Conchabar said:
lol i just realised suicide is eternal damnation in nearly all religions rofl

there is a very good reason for that: if suicide would be the easy way to the 'good' part of the afterlife, then most relegions wouldnt have any followers anymore ;p
 

Punishment

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Conchabar said:
lol i just realised suicide is eternal damnation in nearly all religions rofl

Funny guy...

Religion would be the last thing on anyones mind if they were in a state to leave their loved ones behind to deal with the aftermath on that scale , ive experienced it ... and there was no damnation in the church that day , just alot of love/guilt and understanding ... but most importantly no despair .

That is what religion is all about
 

eggy

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Known a few to do the same; one jumped in front of a train when fucked on drugs.

Waste.
 

Deepfat

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I hope in time your pain passes. I know it's an appaling cliche but time really is the greatest healer. May you both find peace.
 

Mey

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I have trained to do email support for bereaved people, I have to deal with suicide all the time in my day to day life, and it sucks.

But people see it as an option to get the pain out of their system. Suicide can happen for a number of reasons, e.g. stress, reunion fantasies (meeting the person who has died in an “afterlife”), and so on.

All this stuff about you “getting over it” isn’t going to happen; you will never get over the death of a close friend, but in time you will learn to live with the grief and it will become a part of your life.

There are loads of support websites out there if you find that you are having a hard time, just use them.

Stay Safe
Jonny
 

Thorwyn

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My brother commited suicide when I was 11. Took me quite a couple years to get over this and it´s still affecting my life occasionally. However, if it´s the will and the decision of the person, it´s something that everybody has to respect, no matter how much it may hurt and how much damage it will cause amongst those who´re left behind.
 

old.Tohtori

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I would like to remind people not to say "things can't be that bad". They can, seriously, from the persons viewpoint.

Losing a loved one for another man/woman can bring such pain to the heart that the pain omes too much to handle.

Demons in your head can get the better of you.

It's never easy when someone gets close to this state, and noone, if the person isn't listening, has the power of changing their mind. If things hurt, it doesn't matter one f*ck what others say.

So, even if suicide can be one helluva thing to do to other people, people have to realise also that it's not something you wake up to and think "Hmm, i'll just have a cup o joe, pop down to the basement and hang myself."
 

Dakkath

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Sadly this kinda thing happens far too much...

I had a friend who had a pretty shitty relationship with his parents etc do something similar...

One Saturday evening he travelled into London and phoned a handfull of people he knew and got on with well. All the conversations were prety similar, some made up excuse about wanting to have a chat with us on Monday about some favour or another...

Seems I was the last person he called. According to police folks he finished the call, put the phone down and threw himself off a bridge into oncomming traffic :(

Although the worst evening of my life so far revolves around my younger brother attempting to OD on vodka and paracetemol...

Fortunately, he called me just after he'd tried (about 3am) so I was able to get a friend who was a nurse and close to him round there bloody fast, and get him stomach pumped before any permanent damage was done...

After the initial shock, the worst part was trying to keep him talking while help got there to make damn sure he didn't finish the job. What hit me very, very hard were the waves of utter desperation and despair, he wasn't trying to upset anyone else but he'd goten the idea in his head that he was a liability, useless and unwanted and was trying to do the world a favour by 'going'.

That was due to being dumped by his GF, alone with no money, bankrupcy proceedings looming and feeling isolated from family and friends...

I guess we all have breaking points one way or another, something that would push us over the edge of what we can cope with. I just hope that I never find it myself :/
 

Ezteq

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my heart really does go out to all of you who have had a loved one try, or in a lot of cases actually do this.

sometimes when someone sets out to commit suicide they mean business but sometimes they are unsure and it is more a cry for help (that doesnt express it adequately, its a cry for help, love, understanding, forgiveness, attention, affection sometimes just someone to listen to them) if anyone ever finds themselves in this position just please please dont do anything rash, i know its not something you decide to do on the spur of the moment and that to get to that state things have to be very bad but ok well i'll tell you a story and this is all true:

a friend of mine a girl a few years ago, she suffers from bad bouts of depression and one time she was going through a really bad one her family didnt want to know, they couldnt have cared less and the way she put it was she felt she'd be doing them a favour (she honestly believed this) anyway she made her attempt and discovered its not as easy as it is on the telly and because there's no manuals in the library "how to kill yourself the right way" luckily she failed, slipped in to a deep sleep and woke up a long time later in quite a lot of pain but alive to see her pet was stood up on his back legs looking at her, she realised if she had died this little creature wouldnt have any one to feed it or care for it so she fed him and gave him a cuddle and bandaged herself up as best she could.

it wasnt thoughts of her family that saved her or her friends (i didnt know her at the time) as she didnt have any, it was her pet, the one thing in the whole world she had to live for was a rather old rabbit.

she's doing great now, got a fantastic bf and they love eachother to bits, she keeps telling me how if she'd done it that day years ago she'd have missed out on so much.

this isnt me saying that everything will work out in the end, and theres always a happy ending because we all know life isnt like that but sometimes it is, and isnt it worth just waiting a little to find out if your going to have a happy ending like my friend?

[edit] if any of you are wondering, i did ask her permission before posting her story and she said to add she hopes this might help if anyone is having those feelings, she'll even send them a rabbit.
 

Sauruman

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Ezteq said:
my heart really does go out to all of you who have had a loved one try, or in a lot of cases actually do this.

sometimes when someone sets out to commit suicide they mean business but sometimes they are unsure and it is more a cry for help (that doesnt express it adequately, its a cry for help, love, understanding, forgiveness, attention, affection sometimes just someone to listen to them) if anyone ever finds themselves in this position just please please dont do anything rash, i know its not something you decide to do on the spur of the moment and that to get to that state things have to be very bad but ok well i'll tell you a story and this is all true:

a friend of mine a girl a few years ago, she suffers from bad bouts of depression and one time she was going through a really bad one her family didnt want to know, they couldnt have cared less and the way she put it was she felt she'd be doing them a favour (she honestly believed this) anyway she made her attempt and discovered its not as easy as it is on the telly and because there's no manuals in the library "how to kill yourself the right way" luckily she failed, slipped in to a deep sleep and woke up a long time later in quite a lot of pain but alive to see her pet was stood up on his back legs looking at her, she realised if she had died this little creature wouldnt have any one to feed it or care for it so she fed him and gave him a cuddle and bandaged herself up as best she could.

it wasnt thoughts of her family that saved her or her friends (i didnt know her at the time) as she didnt have any, it was her pet, the one thing in the whole world she had to live for was a rather old rabbit.

she's doing great now, got a fantastic bf and they love eachother to bits, she keeps telling me how if she'd done it that day years ago she'd have missed out on so much.

this isnt me saying that everything will work out in the end, and theres always a happy ending because we all know life isnt like that but sometimes it is, and isnt it worth just waiting a little to find out if your going to have a happy ending like my friend?

[edit] if any of you are wondering, i did ask her permission before posting her story and she said to add she hopes this might help if anyone is having those feelings, she'll even send them a rabbit.

+1 rep point. This post sums it all.
 

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