Subs league

[eLL Tee]

Just want to say this is a great idea for BF1942

With the problems other servers are having due to cpu load (so im told) Its great to think BW will be looking after there own, by providing them with playable league servers.

Cos if we are paying, they WILL be playable.

and for £12 a year, its worth that alone imo. I was going to sub up at the start and never got round to it, now that there will be a sub only league i deffo will.

 

[xane]

I'd prefer a carrier only league myself, a lot more variety.

 

[lojik]

Unfortunately too many tight arse free loaders who consider £12 too much (of their parents) money means the subs numbers aint very high right now which in turn has led to very few actual BF1942 fully subscribed clans.

 

[killermarc]

Disagree with you completely there Lojik

i pay my own way on the net and computer completely, and have a full time job and consider the £12 to be very good value for a years subscription but...

why pay when its not needed

yes the servers may be better ping wise etc. etc. etc. but i see no problem with other free servers either blueyonder, jolt all the EAUK servers, and many passworded ones, if your lucky enough to know the passwords are all very good and playable.

so why pay £12 when you can play for free elsewhere.

don't get me wrong i see subs as being the way forward and i credit BW for being the first, and i will pay once there becomes no choice but when there is a choice then free is better.

and as i said earlier, i pay my own way, i buy my own computer, upgrade it when neccessary (including buying more ram just for BF1942) and pay my own NTL broadband fees etc.

 

[=FUK= Mendez]

Which is exactly why the BF league should be subs only - if you want to play then you have no choice

 

[Scooba Da Bass]

Originally posted by killermarc
<SNIP>

The reason you pay 12 quid to play on the BW servers is to avoid attitudes like yours.

 

[eLL Tee]

Well BW better stick to subs only league for BF and other high cpu games (prob doom3)

Cos im going to pay to play so i have better service and better leagues.

BW have always had the best leagues imo and the fact anyone could play made them so, but online gaming is changing.

And the fact BW are the 2nd GSP to go subs, and made it a 10th of the other is showing that they are looking out for gamers.

 

[^Vas]

12 notes is a small price to play to be around familar names. BW has a community of folks that care about their online gaming experience.

TK's and f00's can check at the door please.

 

[lynchet]

And I think some non subscribers could perhaps think what Barrys has given them over time

I admit I subscribed mainly for the perks like the servers and fast ftp but I also viewed it as a bit like shareware -- over the years I have got a lot from Barrys -- email, news, forums, dloads, laughs etc etc and so is it really asking too much to give a little back ?

 

[lojik]

Yeah I agree lynchet. Barrysworld have provided me with over 3 years of great service for absolutely nothing, including public servers, e-mail, dial-up, leagues with dedicated servers (and even for a season or two prizes) bookables, and the list just goes on.

The current subscription fee is laughably small. I really do find it hard to believe that most online gamers would even notice a £12 payment.

 

[eLL Tee]

Originally posted by lojik
Yeah I agree lynchet. Barrysworld have provided me with over 3 years of great service for absolutely nothing, including public servers, e-mail, dial-up, leagues with dedicated servers (and even for a season or two prizes) bookables, and the list just goes on.

The current subscription fee is laughably small. I really do find it hard to believe that most online gamers would even notice a £12 payment.

i agree with everything above except "dial-up" we used pay for that

 

[Xantaro]

I have no problem with dishing out the cash, to be honest, especially being a Game card holder (finally it's come in useful!).

My only *only* worry is that so many people prefer to stick to the free ones - I just hope the subscription base is large enough to yield a really strong, diverse league for this game.

Since I've only recently come back to posting regularly on here, could some nice person please tell me how to sort out my usename?!? I feel so 'retro'.

 

[Scooba Da Bass]

Retro from 9/01? heheh

http://www.barrysworld.com/Membership/Forums/ForumUser.asp

 

[kanonfodda]

Would be nice to join the BW BF league, but the clan I'm in, only myself and one other person have paid

shame, I was looking forward to it, guess we will have to stick to the free leagues, till I can badger everyone to sign up

 

[legendario]

Leave the clan and join one of the subscribers' clans.

Oh and i have to agree with scooba for once in my life... your attitute is disgraceful killermarc

 

[killermarc]

lol disgraceful eh?

how many of you here have downloaded mp3's, movies, games, or other programs etc. of the internet...

how many of you have recorded a cd or recorded the radio onto a cassette...

how many of you have recorded a film of the tele, sky etc...

how many of you used to copy amiga games etc. etc.

i bet most of you if not all have done at least one or more of those things...and why because its free and almost as good as what you would get if you paid for it. Yes its better to pay for it, and i'm sure Bw is better cause you pay for it.

but when something else almost as good is free then why not take the free thing......
yes i enjoy Barrysworld, have had BW mail for long time, rented a barryserver for a few months last year when i ran a clan, and i paid for it myself, out of my own pocket for the clan so don't take me for some cheapskate who gets everything for nothing

p.s. i have not downloaded mp3's before and have none on my system, no movies, games only thing i have done is record cassettes and videos of the TV, before you think i'm some sort of warez person thats wants everything for free, i buy all my music and all my computer games, but when i can play on a server for free that is almost or just as good as a server that i pay for, i will take the free option until i judge it neccessary to pay.

Every one is entitled to an opinion and mine differs from yours.

 

[legendario]

TV and radio is a poor analogy and it was worn out eons ago. But, i do agree with the mp3 thing.

If i like a band and i want an album of theirs i will buy it. If i want rare songs or live versions etc. I will download them.

I dont download movies as they are mostly "camcorder down the local odeon jobs" hence the piss poor quality and dont start on me about divx. i know what it is and how good the quality is,but the film has to be in a decent format before encoding.

And when I said disgraceful I was being slightly facesious.

 

[eLL Tee]

Can you tell us all where all these FREE leagues are.

afaik Jolt aint doing a league.

ive not checked savage yet.

dont think wireplay will run a league.

Yes clanbase will be doing a ladder, but not many clans dont have servers yet.

Im from the UK i like to play in UK run leagues (i also play in clanbase) so as long as BW dont mind us saying other leagues.

plz post them here.

 

[legendario]

no bugger off.

/directs freeloader to google.com

 

[Insane]

i feel like im one of the few who disagrees with this "subscriber" league.

The basis of a league was so many clans can come together and play against each other and see who could win, by basing it on the subscriber system of Barrysworld you are quite simply "closing the door" on a lot of players from outside the UK who make the leagues interesting in their own right.

by literally forcing clans to "subscribe" to Barrysworld you are going to push a lot more people away from the game and the league itself, not everybody will pay £12/£24 to play in a league when a more popular free one is there. you literally close the door on yourself and the people you are there to help.

I remember the first ever UKCTFL game, Barrysworld kindly hosted the server for us lot to play on (this was all the old Minos CTF server clans) and we enjoyed it, so we frequented the Barrysworld QW CTF server and had a great community there because the league showed what they were like.
people wont spend money unless they know what they are getting, i know that if I had never played on Barrysworld and was being asked to part with money to play in a league on servers i've never been on, i'd tell my clan leader (no offence MrC ) to go stuff it.

the leagues are the only real way of advertising Barrysworld, they are the public face of the GSP and should prove how good they really are. not used as a tool to weasel money out of people (aka JOLT)

and before anybody bitches, I happily payed my subscription the very week Barrysworld offered it, they deserved it for the many years of gaming i got from them (and the spankings at the hand of TS )

thats my point of view, suck it

 

[kanonfodda]

I have to admit, I'm with insane on this one, I agree with the subs, as I said, I have paid (and did so stright away), but the league should be open. maybe having a subs member to sign the clan up?

At least then not the whole clan has to be a member.

 

[LGAlien]

Maybe the league should wait till EA fix the cpu leakage and Barrysworld don't need £2000 servers only running one BF server?

This would allow non-subs on the less expensive servers. At the moment we can't even get BF on clanservers.

Patience is the key here.

Maybe a small league can be setup as a trial run till the patch is out.

 

[Scooba Da Bass]

Originally posted by kanonfodda
I have to admit, I'm with insane on this one, I agree with the subs, as I said, I have paid (and did so stright away), but the league should be open. maybe having a subs member to sign the clan up?

At least then not the whole clan has to be a member.

I fail to understand why you are arguing, it's been explained WHY it has to be like this.

 

[eLL Tee]

ppl keep saying why pay when there are other FREE leagues.

but still on one can post links to a FREE league for BF1942.


PS ive looked at Jolt, wireplay and savage. not checked GD yet but who would wanna play in a GD league

 

[Sar]

Originally posted by Insane
i feel like im one of the few who disagrees with this "subscriber" league.

That's cos you are

 

[Sar]

Originally posted by killermarc
i pay my own way on the net and computer completely, and have a full time job and consider the £12 to be very good value for a years subscription [...] and as i said earlier, i pay my own way, i buy my own computer, upgrade it when neccessary (including buying more ram just for BF1942) and pay my own NTL broadband fees etc.

All that and yet you won't pay £12 a year.

You stingy cunt0x.

I'm unemployed atm, and could have got the subs for free as I run a BW league and am a publics admin.

But I still paid.

don't get me wrong i see subs as being the way forward and i credit BW for being the first, and i will pay once there becomes no choice but when there is a choice then free is better.

Nice course of logical reasoning there btw.

 

[bigfoot]

As far as i know regardless of the patch BF1942 will still not run on any of my existing league hardware as all but 1 of the league servers are now 2years+ old and, whilst they are capable enough for games like Q3 and UT, for things like HL they are beginning to struggle at times with every new update that comes. MoH / RTCW are a complete no-go, and BF1942 would be at least as demanding as them if not more so.

There will be other things which make a subs league worthwhile, like some decent prizes for one, so participating in it will have other benefits that just being part of a fun competition (which some would say is benefit enough).

I should also mention that it is quite possible existing BW leagues will go subscriber only at some point, a decision on that hasn't been taken so i would advise you to enjoy them whilst you can if you are not going to pay for them when / if the time comes.

The comments about having a "1 person pays all can play" system are something i personally can find some agreement with, especially in the context of older, less demanding games perhaps, but the problem with this is that if we, for example, get 20 clans that is what, 20 subscribers? To be fair you could argue more people would sign up to get time on bookables and to play on our public servers but given that this type of system would be directed more at the "tight arses" who won't sign up as a clan to play in a Subs only league then why would they suddenly have a change of heart and sign up en mass when only 1 of them needs to?

Then take into consideration probably half those 20 teams would have admins in them and that's only 10 "new" paying customers. Is it really worth investing a £2,000 machine and all the other time and resources into getting a league going to get just 10 new paying customers? You do the math.

 

[kanonfodda]

Originally posted by Scooba Da Bass


I fail to understand why you are arguing, it's been explained WHY it has to be like this.

Whose arguing, that was just a suggestion

 

[kanonfodda]

Originally posted by bigfoot
*snip*

yeah, I can see your point, I just would like to play in BW league, as these have always been fun.

Ho hum, I will have to wait for the rest of the clan to sign up

/me waits till after snowball fight in hell

(oops, douple post, sorry )

 

[Insane]

Originally posted by bigfoot
There will be other things which make a subs league worthwhile, like some decent prizes for one, so participating in it will have other benefits that just being part of a fun competition (which some would say is benefit enough).

Thats me sold

Originally posted by Sar
That's cos you are

hey there always has to be someone who disagrees with something!