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Yoni

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Lies damn lies and statistics.....

Statistics are used every day to manipulate public opinion.... (or freddypeon opinions in this instance)
 

noblok

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They're still a lot more reliable than personal experience, though. Because as you can see your and Scouse's personal experience seem to be quite different. I'm not saying nobody from a disadvantaged background gets lucky and manages to land a good job eventually, but for every one who makes it there are many more who don't, through no fault of their own.
 

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Lies damn lies and statistics.....

Or evidence over personal experience.


Statistics can be misrepresented - but that's a fault of people, not the stats.
 

wolfeeh

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Never met a well-paid carer, no matter how hard they work or how well educated they are.
As Yoni says, depends on the circles you move in. I have met well paid carers. as in to the tune of £2000-3000 a week after tax. and we're talking carers not nurses.
 

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As Yoni says, depends on the circles you move in. I have met well paid carers. as in to the tune of £2000-3000 a week after tax. and we're talking carers not nurses.

I'm not shouting "evidence" at you - but I'm genuinely interested to know what sort of carer's job pays that. If you could kindly provide more info :)



If you're talking about some sort of live-in carers for rich people I would say you've just picked an extreme to justify a position, rather than commenting on the norm. I daresay you could find a special-needs gardener, Forrest Gump style, who's on ten grand a week because his rich uncle pays him to ride his lawnmower around the village. But that's hardly normal...
 

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Guess I'm middle-class. Both my parents were teachers. At 33 I'm already earning as much by myself as they were combined after 30+ years of teaching each. I still could never afford to send my kids to a private school (even if I wanted to) and even home ownership looks like a distant hope. I don't believe I have access to the "top table" of jobs in my field, but I believe I could hit CIO or COO of a decent-sized firm by the age of 40 or so.

I don't doubt that if my family had been dirt-poor then my options would have been severely limited. I don't think anyone is saying that you can't go from nothing to a six-figure salary. I think that the probability of reaching that six-figure salary increases significantly if you happen to come from a wealthier family. I also think there are certain jobs in finance, politics and big business that are essentially closed to anyone who hasn't had the "right" upbringing.
 

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Not even for rich people to be honest dude. Several areas in the UK are getting behind the whole personal health budget thing for people with massive continuing health care needs that don't need to be in a hospital but can be cared for safely at home. Bear in mind some (a lot) of nursing homes can charge ~£5000 (or more) a week depending on the needs of the individual.

Just working for the NHS it's entirely feasible for a healthcare support worker (the current politically correct title for a carer in the hospital setting) to earn in excess of £600 a week with a couple of year's experience, some inexpensive specialist courses and judicial picking of shifts. in the private sector you can earn a lot lot more if you work for an agency.

your mileage may of course vary.
I'm not shouting "evidence" at you - but I'm genuinely interested to know what sort of carer's job pays that. If you could kindly provide more info :)



If you're talking about some sort of live-in carers for rich people I would say you've just picked an extreme to justify a position, rather than commenting on the norm. I daresay you could find a special-needs gardener, Forrest Gump style, who's on ten grand a week because his rich uncle pays him to ride his lawnmower around the village. But that's hardly normal...
 

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