U summoned pet for non pet classes would be good, capped at grey con for interupts so as not to be OPd tho.Aeris said:tbh all bloody master lines should be usable in pve, its basically saying you have to rvr! theres alot of people who dont like rvr but want to get there chars as good as possible.....yet they get abilities that are useless to them, its discrimination !
also give runies/elds/wizies/whoever a decent ml9 ability in convoker
Aeris said:tbh all bloody master lines should be usable in pve, its basically saying you have to rvr! theres alot of people who dont like rvr but want to get there chars as good as possible.....yet they get abilities that are useless to them, its discrimination !
Svartmetall said:Well said, and repped for it. Everything in this game should work in PvE as well as RvR, since it's a PvE + RvR game.
Bleh..."You must spread some reputation around etc"
Svartmetall said:Well said, and repped for it. Everything in this game should work in PvE as well as RvR, since it's a PvE + RvR game.
Bleh..."You must spread some reputation around etc"
Maybe you do. Not everybody does, by any means. At any given point, more people are PvEing than RvRing, and this has always been the case.Coldbeard said:You PvE so you can RvR :>
Svartmetall said:Maybe you do. Not everybody does, by any means. At any given point, more people are PvEing than RvRing, and this has always been the case.
Svartmetall said:Maybe you do. Not everybody does, by any means. At any given point, more people are PvEing than RvRing, and this has always been the case.
I think that's an unjustifiable generalisation. If PvE truly was something that people 'put up with' just to RvR, then they'd be in and out as fast as possible...and they're not. Sure, there are people who think like that, but they're not the 'vast majority' of the playerbase. And if the 'vast majority' found PvE so objectionable that they only did it because they were forced to, it's highly doubtful they'd choose to do a game with so much PvE content from day one.Thadius said:Vast majority do pve just for rvr
...or because they simply fancy playing that class to see what it's like, without being Mr. Pwnzor in RvR on it ever crossing their mind.powerleveling a new alt(for rvring, obviously)
Svartmetall said:I think that's an unjustifiable generalisation. If PvE truly was something that people 'put up with' just to RvR, then they'd be in and out as fast as possible...and they're not. Sure, there are people who think like that, but they're not the 'vast majority' of the playerbase. And if the 'vast majority' found PvE so objectionable that they only did it because they were forced to, it's highly doubtful they'd choose to do a game with so much PvE content from day one.
...or because they simply fancy playing that class to see what it's like, without being Mr. Pwnzor in RvR on it ever crossing their mind.
MMORPGs are about the journey itself more than anything else - it's not like there's an end-of-DAOC boss. You think the RR grind is any different from the XP grind in game mechanic terms? It's still a character-development thing.
If PLing is all you're doing, then you're not even playing the class anyway.Thadius said:Dont think I know anybody who powerlevels an alt just for the "experience" of that character. Only person I know who powerleveled an alt for pve was a necromancer, but that was to farm cash and powerlevel his alts on the main account
Margaret said:I like PvE, and I like RvR.
Sometimes it's nice to have predictable opponents, and to be able to mow through vast numbers of mobs/deep purple ones is fun.
Sometimes it's nice to have the unpredictability of a human opponent, to match your skills(and setup, and equipment) against others out to do the same.
Javai said:Storms DID work in pve in the very first ToA release they were 'fixed' in the first patch. People used to use the DD storm to pull all the Salamanders at Tarts and to kill Chan and his buddies in ML9
Thadius said:You saying bodyguard should work in pve as well?
That would just be stupid, pbaoe groups would be godmode!
Grapple is much worse than BG, in terms of sheer bloody annoyance factor. Grapple needs an immunity timer and a long re-use timer.Ctuchik said:wouldent be that much worse then it is in rvr looking at all the QQ'ing ppl write about BG....
Sockstuff said:Lol. Yeah ML10 ML19 ML234 and the super ML4398439.
Darzil said:Sounds like an easy to code quick fix.
If it generated aggro for the caster, and also stopped having an effect when the caster logged out or is dead, they'd be far less abusable.
Darzil
Nate said:well then they'd just use a friend to put the storm down, go to zone entrance and then the other would commence farmage..