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Fluid

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Devaster said:
Ok, i have an alb account. Tell me, how could i know such details as day/time/leaving point of alb zeg/marfach route/etc etc 1 week b4 the event was planned.
U know, i dont realy think herbal used to spam /as and postfarm all forums with that information. U have a rat there, its not our problems sorry.

its the entire community's problem :)
 

Aybabtu

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Devaster said:
Ok, i have an alb account. Tell me, how could i know such details as day/time/leaving point of alb zeg/marfach route/etc etc 1 week b4 the event was planned.
U know, i dont realy think herbal used to spam /as and postfarm all forums with that information. U have a rat there, its not our problems sorry.

The plans were known to Albion's GM's for some time.....It's what they do that brings the whole raid in danger...Could be some GM thought it would be safe to put it up on guildpage or ally web, it could be likely it actually happened this way, that the "spy" came by the informations by accident and then reacted according to that...


Anyway i hope a ban is coming his way as this is agaist CoC...
 

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if future if a realm is tipped off about an RR days or weeks in advance, fucking post that u know here and save 300+ fee-paying customers and players just like you 2-3hrs of thier lives.

kthx.
 

Talifer

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Fluid said:
for the last time, u were all stuck to 1 leader heading along the zw, away from amg towards crim, we thought it was a keeptake force but when u never attacked crim we got supicious u know the rest

Let me give you the more plausible story which happens day in day out:

Alb zerg is stood at amg, someone yells 'hibs crim valley', the zerg stream out in that direction to confront them, they kill 1fg hibs, they carry on charging to see if there's more or chase fleeing targets. They realise everything is dead and trickle back to amg from various directions.

From where you died (assuming you were with that fg hibs) you could not see whether we actually went into crim valley or not and if you'd hung around long enough to check you'd have seen 2fg of albs come back to amg when we told them we were on an alliance hunt.

Half the albs were not with us therefore they were not stuck to the same leader and as for being on a zonewall, that's where you were, were you relic raiding? Of course not, is just sensible not to be in the middle of the road.

Talifer
 

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Talifer said:
Let me give you the more plausible story which happens day in day out:

Alb zerg is stood at amg, someone yells 'hibs crim valley', the zerg stream out in that direction to confront them, they kill 1fg hibs, they carry on charging to see if there's more or chase fleeing targets. They realise everything is dead and trickle back to amg from various directions.

From where you died (assuming you were with that fg hibs) you could not see whether we actually went into crim valley or not and if you'd hung around long enough to check you'd have seen 2fg of albs come back to amg when we told them we were on an alliance hunt.

Half the albs were not with us therefore they were not stuck to the same leader and as for being on a zonewall, that's where you were, were you relic raiding? Of course not, is just sensible not to be in the middle of the road.

Talifer

when albs charge us from amg, they ain't all /stuck to 1 person are they? not to mention we never came from crim valley originally we can from tower and quickly looped round to go in from the side, thridly u only killed 7 of our grp, 1 made it to crim and saw a few albs suicide on it shortly after.
 

Devaster

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Fluid said:
when albs charge us from amg, they ain't all /stuck to 1 person are they? not to mention we never came from crim valley originally we can from tower and quickly looped round to go in from the side, thridly u only killed 7 of our grp, 1 made it to crim and saw a few albs suicide on it shortly after.

ye, nerf druids with shadeform and winged helm speed charge escaping from zergs :<
 

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Belomar said:
Below is my reconstruction of the suspicious events relating to this relic raid. Make of them what you will, it is too early to make accusations, but I would definitely want an explanation of this series of funny coincidences (especially relating to Mistle). Also note that these times are in no way exactly accurate, I might be mistaken on several counts. Yes, this is circumstantial, but it is the best we have at the moment.

  • ~3 pm BST: The RR3 Celt Bard Mistle is seen patrolling the milegates in Hadrian's Wall over the course of (at least) one hour.
  • 4.30 pm BST: Albion recon stealth teams arrive at assigned positions at Druim Cain, Dun Dagda, Dun Da Behnn, and Marfach Caverns entrance (2 at each spot). No enemies were spotted at either position (except for a mentalist at Dagda).
  • ~5 pm BST: The Bard Mistle appears at Marfach Caverns entrance and hangs about for 5-10 minutes. It is unknown whether she came from inside the dungeon or not. She then leaves for 10 minutes, and returns again and hangs about the entrance. She is then believed to enter the RvR dungeon, even if our stealthers don't see this with their own eyes (she just disappears).
  • 5.30 pm BST: KoP alliance leaves ATK, bound for Marfach, but gets held up at AMG.
  • 5.30-6 pm BST: KoP arrives at Marfach and enters.
  • 6.15(?) pm BST: High-RR Hib FG arrives at Marfach Entrance.

The curious thing I find is that to my knowledge, there were no Albs in Marfach before about 6 pm BST, when the KoP alliance entered from the Hib side. Yet, the Hib FG arrives at Marfach shortly after KoP enters, so Mistle's call obviously went out earlier than that--yet how could this happen, when there were no 4 FGs of Albs in there to spot? (I am not 100% about this, however.)

So, when did Mistle report the Albs inside the RvR dungeon?


So far so good. About the Hib FG. This Group was about to go to Emain. Then someone in Alliance Chat reported 5fg Albs moving towards Crim and suddenly disapeared. I logged on my Chanter to check the Zonewall arround Dagda. There i met this Group who was searching for those Albs aswell. We found no Albs and because the Albs disapeared near Crim the Hib fg prolly tought: Hmm, maybe they went into Marfach....lets check. I would have done the same because Hibs have Brains. :p
 

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Talifer said:
Let me give you the more plausible story which happens day in day out:

Alb zerg is stood at amg, someone yells 'hibs crim valley', the zerg stream out in that direction to confront them, they kill 1fg hibs, they carry on charging to see if there's more or chase fleeing targets. They realise everything is dead and trickle back to amg from various directions.

From where you died (assuming you were with that fg hibs) you could not see whether we actually went into crim valley or not and if you'd hung around long enough to check you'd have seen 2fg of albs come back to amg when we told them we were on an alliance hunt.

Half the albs were not with us therefore they were not stuck to the same leader and as for being on a zonewall, that's where you were, were you relic raiding? Of course not, is just sensible not to be in the middle of the road.

Talifer
Rule number 1 on any RR: don't kill any guards on the way to the relic keep.

Prior to the discovery of the 4 fg in Marfach, this rule had been broken for over an hour at both Crim and Bolg with a varying number of enemies present, without any attack on those keeps.

Don't kid yourself into believing that without those actions in Marfach or the possible leaking through spies, you'd have made it to Dagda without being spotted.

Danita
 

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Icebreaker said:
So far so good. About the Hib FG. This Group was about to go to Emain. Then someone in Alliance Chat reported 5fg Albs moving towards Crim and suddenly disapeared. I logged on my Chanter to check the Zonewall arround Dagda. There i met this Group who was searching for those Albs aswell. We found no Albs and because the Albs disapeared near Crim the Hib fg prolly tought: Hmm, maybe they went into Marfach....lets check. I would have done the same because Hibs have Brains. :p

bit of target m8, it was our grp who originally spotted the albs on zw heading crim, we released and came back to find them, but couldn't so we went to check logout spots, and then got the /as msg of 4fg+ albs in marfach so we speed 6'd it to marfach entrance and camped hoping they would port out and we could wipe them, they never so we risked it and ported in, at this point realm ranks + grp setup came in and we got lucky to kill 4fg albs with 1fg unbuffed hibs, if they had got us chances are we wouldn't have found the main RR force which was the moment we sounded the major alarm bells and allhibs flooded to dagda. By the way, i take it ur chanter is tomcraft? as thats who i was in contact with from CF
 

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aussie lol lol lol lol o o o l l o l o lo l o l o o o O l L o!
 

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Konah said:
if future if a realm is tipped off about an RR days or weeks in advance, fucking post that u know here and save 300+ fee-paying customers and players just like you 2-3hrs of thier lives.

kthx.

uhm better yet tell hib/alb/mid representative instead of everyone. Let the RR leader make the decision wether to go on or not instead of you (as if you tell everyone the RR should be canceled for sure).

You could probably send a pm to nol, if its about a RR by hib. Herbal for albion and ardamel for mid. They might not be the leader, but they will most likely know or know who to approach and you achieve to warn the RR leader AND you have the advantage of not telling anyone else of the other realms about it.
 

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