Spirit intercept nerfed ?

Cirandi

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izikiel said:
nerf damage on infils then as proven by the ss! :)

Don't think Araudry is the best inf to compare with when crying for nerfs though :D
 

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Spix said:
Buffs does not affect intercept ability.
And yeah classes have their strength and sm are uber vs melee 1vs1, same as Shield tanks are 99% immune to archers, has been forever, do you want that fixed aswell? ,no?... necros 90% safe vs melee and archery etc etc..
Use Magix as albs always say when necros are mentioned...


Wrong, ask any sm who has a buffbot how his pet intercepts after throwing shammy buffs on it.

You have a class with 90% inmunity n free moc againts melee users :m00:

The more they abuse from it the faster Mythic will nerf sm pets, either making em unable to receive buffs or making the sm unable to land spells when the pet is intercepting.
 

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Vasconcelos said:
Wrong, ask any sm who has a buffbot how his pet intercepts after throwing shammy buffs on it.

You have a class with 90% inmunity n free moc againts melee users :m00:
its true afaik buffs has nothing to do with intercept and has been posted on vn board i think its just reduce dmg taken from intercept (and way to much also) :p
 

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Araudry said:
its true afaik buffs has nothing to do with intercept and has been posted on vn board i think its just reduce dmg taken from intercept (and way to much also) :p

Ive dueled many many times throu irc with sm to test the shammy buffs

The rate of intercepts whn he threw shammy buffs on it rocketed to the point i almost killed the pet before damaging the caster past 50% (sm w/o nuking me throu intercepts ofc)
 

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Vasconcelos said:
Ive dueled many many times throu irc with sm to test the shammy buffs

The rate of intercepts whn he threw shammy buffs on it rocketed to the point i almost killed the pet before damaging the caster past 50% (sm w/o nuking me throu intercepts ofc)
i got many fight with my infil and sometime buffed sm intercept less than some unbuffed sm.. sounds weird but it happens and when i saw post on vn boards i was deffo sure :p
 

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lol @ all the albs/hibs here saying nerf it etc what about your thurg pets ? espcally ice what about chanters pets and shrooms eh ? they need to be nerfed
 

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XhitmanX said:
lol @ all the albs/hibs here saying nerf it etc what about your thurg pets ? espcally ice what about chanters pets and shrooms eh ? they need to be nerfed
getting scared after playing so long op class to get it fixed finaly? :>
 

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Spix said:
Buffs does not affect intercept ability.
And yeah classes have their strength and sm are uber vs melee 1vs1, same as Shield tanks are 99% immune to archers, has been forever, do you want that fixed aswell? ,no?... necros 90% safe vs melee and archery etc etc..
Use Magix as albs always say when necros are mentioned...

BUffs on pets in general should be nerfed, but the differance between a sm and necro is that the sm can pbae you for 700s when a necor hit you for what ? 150ish ? (not sure here as I havn't played necro in pvp, but it's something like 250 - 300 iirc when you have + dmg on yellows) And you can't really compare sm to necro, because necro casts spells through hit pet, while the sm cast the spells himself.
 

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Araudry said:
getting scared after playing so long op class to get it fixed finaly? :>

XhitmanX is I thane .. I think. :p Or a warrior, all I remember of him is the screenshots he posted here where he was a dwarf in chain, when he flamed Requiel for banning him when he xrealmed. :p
 

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Eva said:
XhitmanX is I thane .. I think. :p Or a warrior, all I remember of him is the screenshots he posted here where he was a dwarf in chain, when he flamed Requiel for banning him when he xrealmed. :p
well its a mid same story imo havent seen many ppl whining on their own realm ^^
 

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Spix said:
Buffs does not affect intercept ability.
And yeah classes have their strength and sm are uber vs melee 1vs1, same as Shield tanks are 99% immune to archers, has been forever, do you want that fixed aswell? ,no?... necros 90% safe vs melee and archery etc etc..
Use Magix as albs always say when necros are mentioned...

i dont see the point in comparing necro with others class since necro is pve class and has nothing to do in rvr except giving free rps ^^
so saying necro is immute to melee etc but we CANT bring necro to rvr...
its like camping mpk and yelling THANE LFG pre-NF...
try to solo as necro then once u see a bd and u can sit ;o
 

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Ppl moaning about the intercept rate should actually try playing a SM. It runs both ways, sure you get damn lucky and floor tanks without them landing a hit thats rare though.

Example: At lvl 47 I defeated a RR7 Skald and then a RR6 Mincer both fully Toa'd and I was wearing rog and unbuffed pet and I got damn lucky. Same day I also lost to a blue con inf cos I got no intercept and target resisted the mezz. Shit happens you have to see both sides of the class.

With buffs I don't fear any melee class unless there is 3 or more of them ;). But then that the same for lots of classes. Put my NS fully BB'd vs 2 unbuffed sb's and I win. Put a necro fully buffed vs any melee character or 3 and it will win.

Its the buffs that make the overpowered side of most classes (apart from BD's who are just stupidly overpowered even without)
 

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Araudry said:
getting scared after playing so long op class to get it fixed finaly? :>


coming from an infil :)


but anyways people will whine over the other realms OP chars and UP chars and then eventually mythic will do something about it or not :)
 

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Kicks said:
Ppl moaning about the intercept rate should actually try playing a SM. It runs both ways, sure you get damn lucky and floor tanks without them landing a hit thats rare though.

based on my experience to date, its not that rare at all. Certainmly last night the SMs I encountered were running at a 100% success rate in having their pet intercept attacks against them, regardles of my position.

Moving on to other posts.

Regarding Thuerg pets - thats a seperate issue altogether. Are they overpowered, well they look pretty damn pokey to me. Should that be used as a counter argument to not nerf SMs? No. Not really. You don't need a comparison with the Thuerg to see what the problem with the SM Pet intercept is.

Regarding Necro Pets - while the Necro pet does have certain advantages, its nukes are pretty poor in RvR, the pet has to be buffed to be effective and the caster can't let the pet go off on a mission, like SM or Cabby pets can. Furthermore more if the pet dies, the Necro is pretty screwed and nearly totally defenseless. It can do anything until it gets another pet running, whereas at least the SM and Cabby can keep fighting, rooting, mezzing, whatever. Also one hit on the petless necro and its pretty much dead.
 

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Sendraks said:
based on my experience to date, its not that rare at all. Certainmly last night the SMs I encountered were running at a 100% success rate in having their pet intercept attacks against them, regardles of my position..


Its prolly the fact sm can cast throu intercepts wot makes it more unbalanced. Also intercept works different on those pets than the normal player intercepting. If i intercept a hit for a friendly caster i take the blow with +dmg bonus on me, while the sm pet gets hit for 25dmg when intercepting hits that would mean 300+ on the caster.
 

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well tha waz there from long time ago 2 years or more ?¿
why too be removed ? couse now SM play dark and not supresion all that couse dark sm is a good soler and a asasin cant againt him same like a echanter whit ally pet and spec on Way of the Sun
maybie the ONLY soler class in RvR have too be infil/scout/ns/ranger/sb/hunter
all realm have the fotm animist now sm ( minstrel just need evade 1 no more too be better balanced) and whit catacombs will come more
 

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Flimgoblin said:
SMs are also uber pbaoe bombs since your meleers won't be able to slam them to stun them and if they're moccing there's little else to stop them short of nuking them to death.
Baseline stun 4tw tbh Flim. :p
 

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Kicks said:
Ppl moaning about the intercept rate should actually try playing a SM. It runs both ways, sure you get damn lucky and floor tanks without them landing a hit thats rare though.

oh hahaah im gonna fucking FRAME THIS COMMENT and send it to mythic.. err i seem to remember mids whining about a certain chain stunning Amber pet... kettle...pot... something about black?

easy to rationalise when it affects you isnt it? but it did stop you crying like bitches over the amber pet... which at best was a rare occurance to chain stun... sheesh the double standards here sicken me.
 

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Old.Elewyth said:
oh hahaah im gonna fucking FRAME THIS COMMENT and send it to mythic.. err i seem to remember mids whining about a certain chain stunning Amber pet... kettle...pot... something about black?

easy to rationalise when it affects you isnt it? but it did stop you crying like bitches over the amber pet... which at best was a rare occurance to chain stun... sheesh the double standards here sicken me.

Please feel free to point out where I've complained/whined/moaned or otherwise about Caby Amber pet chain stunning. For the record the Caby pet stunning is damn annoying but its no more overpowered than anything else.
 

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I've only ever seen my amber sim pet chain stun once, in PvE, on a purp con mob.

I do look forward to having it happen in RvR, but its not happened yet.
 

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popa said:
well tha waz there from long time ago 2 years or more ?¿
why too be removed ? couse now SM play dark and not supresion all that couse dark sm is a good soler and a asasin cant againt him same like a echanter whit ally pet and spec on Way of the Sun
maybie the ONLY soler class in RvR have too be infil/scout/ns/ranger/sb/hunter
all realm have the fotm animist now sm ( minstrel just need evade 1 no more too be better balanced) and whit catacombs will come more

Also affects Mercenaries, Armsmen, Reavers, Paladins, Friars, Blademasters, Heroes, Valewalkers, Champions and mebbe i miss one last melee class from hib/alb realm.
Were not talking about stealthers here....
 

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Sendraks said:
I've only ever seen my amber sim pet chain stun once, in PvE, on a purp con mob.

I do look forward to having it happen in RvR, but its not happened yet.
I saw a cabbie pet chain stun it's owner... I miss STT. :(
 

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