Spellcrafting wishlist :p

[Tleilax]

Lo all

Been checking out spellcrafting and what is "possible" to craft.

All items crafted below are AF51 cloth Masterpieces. Gems used are 100% quality also. The spellcrafter have 1100+ skill (dunno what cap is, but its above 1100+ right?)

Gloves: +16 Int +9% Matter/Thrust +7% Spirit
Boots: +22 Int/Dex/Con +7% Crush
Helm: +22 Int/Dex/Con +7% Slash
Pants: +10 Int +6 Wind +9% Thrust +1% Spirit
Arms: +9% Body/Energy +7% Matter/Heat
Robe: +9% Spirit/Slash +7% Cold/Crush

Staff: +50 Wind/Earth Focus

Items used to that setup:
Giant ring of the Wits: +6 Int/Dex +4% Crush/Slash
Soul-Forged Bracer: +51 Hp +15 Str (debuff charge)
Infernal Black Diamond Belt: +67 Hp
Avernal Necklace: +19 Con +10% Heat/Energy
Kraggon Cloak: +15 Dex +16% Body (might be changed to 8% Body/cold)
Infernal Black Diamond Bracer: +10 Con/Dex/Cha

This setup gives me:

Int: 210 (1 over cap)
Dex: 168 (0 over cap)
Con: 128 (2 under cap)
Str: 60

Slash: 20%
Thrust: 18%
Crush: 18%
Body: 25% (or 17% depends on Kraggon Cloak change)
Energy: 19%
Cold: 7% (or 15% depends on Kraggon Cloak change)
Spirit: 10%
Matter: 16%
Heat: 17%

HP: +118

I think the magic resists are ubercrap... might have to look up better bracers/rings etc etc to lose some of that +22 int/dex/con stats on cloth and change for resists.
Also the +hp could be better. And Kraggon Cloak is sucky compared to what u can do with spellcrafting

About the staff. Currently the Spellcalculator ive used is bugged and the Focus stuff doesnt work properly, so coulnt look up the DualFocus thing really works, maybe i can add some more on staff, +wind maybe.

Just a little notice. For a 1100+ spellcrafter chance for a successfull imbue on all the cloth is 70% LMAO, details details.... it CAN be done.

GIV THOUGHTS!

 

[thucram]

and what would it cost ? including the armorpieces ? ;-D

 

[Tleilax]

=)

cloff is done by mEEEEEEEEEE and imbue done hopfully by my ALTTTTTTT.

 

[Cowled]

Mazzi .. will be one of the first lvl 1000 spellcrafters

Order from her.. remember the name

 

[old.LandShark]

heh... well, I suppose I may as well stick mine up...
Uses no items I don't already have. Apart from the ring of malice, which is going to screw the whole setup up until i get it.
Crafter skill of 1001... gem quality+name is listed
Bad things are, no quickness on it, plus body/energy/cold are mildly over the cap. (4%, 2% and 1%)
Only a 'first' (bout fifth in reality) draft, got some really anally-retentive tweaking to do before I'm happy with it...
Amongst other things there are neckies, bracers with higher utility than the ones i've listed, so.. might have to fiddle everything around. =/

Stats:
Str: 76
Hits: 203
Con: 76
Dex: 72
Cha: 75
Qui: 0

Resists:
Body: 28 Energy: 27 Crush: 18
Cold: 30 Matter: 0 Thrust: 23
Heat: 26 Spirit: 14 Slash: 27

Skills:
9 Slash 11 Stealth

Chest:
Imbue Points: 28 of 28 (99% Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: 22 Charisma - 99% precious Icy Essence Jewel
Gem 2: 5 Crush Resist - 99% flawed Fiery Shielding Jewel
Gem 3: 7 Thrust Resist - 99% imperfect Airy Shielding Jewel
Gem 4: 10 Strength - 99% flawed Fiery Essence Jewel

Arms:
Imbue Points: 33 of 32 (100% Qual) Overcharge: 86%
Gem 1: 22 Dexterity - 98% precious Vapor Essence Jewel
Gem 2: 36 Hits - 98% imperfect Blood Essence Jewel
Gem 3: 7 Slash Resist - 98% imperfect Watery Shielding Jewel
Gem 4: 4 Stealth - 98% flawed Airy Battle Jewel

Head:
Imbue Points: 34 of 32 (100% Qual) Overcharge: 88%
Gem 1: 25 Constitution - 99% flawless Earthen Essence Jewel
Gem 2: 44 Hits - 99% polished Blood Essence Jewel
Gem 3: 4 Stealth - 99% flawed Airy Battle Jewel
Gem 4: 5 Energy Resist - 99% flawed Light Shielding Jewel

Legs:
Name: Leggings of Doom
Level: 49 Quality: 93
AF: 98 Bonus: 30
Effect 1: 19 Constitution
Effect 2: 10 Heat Resist
Effect 3: 12 Cold Resist
Effect 4: 21 Hits

Hands:
Imbue Points: 33 of 32 (100% Qual) Overcharge: 98%
Gem 1: 16 Strength - 99% polished Fiery Essence Jewel
Gem 2: 10 Constitution - 99% flawed Earthen Essence Jewel
Gem 3: 9 Slash Resist - 99% polished Watery Shielding Jewel
Gem 4: 9 Energy Resist - 99% polished Light Shielding Jewel

Feet:
Imbue Points: 34 of 32 (100% Qual) Overcharge: 88%
Gem 1: 22 Charisma - 99% precious Icy Essence Jewel
Gem 2: 9 Heat Resist - 99% polished Heated Shielding Jewel
Gem 3: 13 Dexterity - 99% imperfect Vapor Essence Jewel
Gem 4: 7 Slash Resist - 99% imperfect Watery Shielding Jewel

Right Hand:
Imbue Points: 29 of 28 (99% Qual) Overcharge: 90%
Gem 1: 5 Slash - 99% imperfect Watery War Sigil
Gem 2: 2 Crush Resist - 99% uncut Fiery Shielding Jewel
Gem 3: 7 Thrust Resist - 99% imperfect Airy Shielding Jewel
Gem 4: 3 Thrust Resist - 99% rough Airy Shielding Jewel

Left Hand:
Imbue Points: 33 of 32 (100% Qual) Overcharge: 86%
Gem 1: 4 Slash - 98% flawed Watery War Sigil
Gem 2: 7 Crush Resist - 98% imperfect Fiery Shielding Jewel
Gem 3: 7 Heat Resist - 98% imperfect Heated Shielding Jewel
Gem 4: 7 Energy Resist - 98% imperfect Light Shielding Jewel

Neck:
Name: Infernal Black Diamond Necklace
Effect 1: 36 Hits
Effect 2: 6 Body Resist
Effect 3: 6 Energy Resist
Effect 4: 6 Thrust Resist

Cloak:
Name: Afanc Hide Cloak
Effect 1: 3 Stealth
Effect 2: 12 Constitution
Effect 3: 12 Dexterity
Effect 4: 9 Charisma

Jewel:
Name: Infernal Black Diamond
Effect 1: 10 Cold Resist
Effect 2: 10 Body Resist
Effect 3: 18 Strength

Belt:
Name: Belt of Granite Enhancement
Effect 1: 12 Strength
Effect 2: 4 Crush Resist
Effect 3: 4 Slash Resist
Effect 4: 4 Body Resist

Right Ring:
Name: Ring of Coruscating Harmony
Effect 1: 12 Charisma
Effect 2: 10 Strength
Effect 3: 6 Spirit Resist

Left Ring:
Name: Ring of Malice
Effect 1: 15 Dexterity
Effect 2: 51 Hits

Right Wrist:
Name: Veiled Bracer of Eyes
Effect 1: 15 Hits
Effect 2: 8 Cold Resist
Effect 3: 8 Spirit Resist
Effect 4: 8 Body Resist

Left Wrist:
Name: Black Sapphire Bracer
Effect 1: 10 Dexterity
Effect 2: 10 Constitution
Effect 3: 10 Strength
Effect 4: 10 Charisma

 

[Tleilax]

hmm is it just me or doest it cost more imbue points to add +resists on crafted?

i shall check if i can find as many +resist on itamz and do the rest with sc

what u think?

 

[Kagato.]

Them spell resists need some work, actually apart from the nice body resist they all kinda suck.

 

[Tleilax]

ye i know ... this was just a rough thought.... bored at work...

10 hours to kill here.... very boring on freaking sunday!

 

[old.LandShark]

Envying casters when it gets to SC...
They have 3 stats to put on their armor (dex/acuity/con) and at most 3 skills to put +skills to. Though why, say, an eldritch would want +11light, +11mana AND +11void is beyond me...

Looking at minstrels, I've got stealth/melee spec/instruments (which is 3 must-haves, rather than 1 must-have and a 2nd luxury) and ideally 5 stats - str con dex qui(for evaderate) and charisma....
Tanks lose out there too, can imagine a hybrid armsman trying to max parry/polearm/slash/shield/xbow ^^
Esp. as the most you can POSSIBLY (v. high crafter skill and lucky overcharge) get from one item is +8skill.

And wow are assassins in trouble there.
Typical inf: envenom, DW, thrust, CritStrike, Stealth
All +11 unless very very high RR and not respecced accordingly..
Str con dex qui
Slash/Crush/Thrust/Body/Heat/Energy resists... ouch ouch ouch
SC nightmare

 

[Draylor]

Overcharging masterpieces?

Good luck, I expect Ill be far too scared to try that with mine

Remember that you can probably expect to have a spellcrafted cloak. Mythic changed this a week or so after it went live in US, but were happy to leave all cloaks created as a result of the 'bug' in-game. The cost (assuming 'sane' markup by crafters) is ridiculously cheap

Oh, and I dont know what calculator you were using to work that out, but the best Ive come across is http://theharms.org/daoc/sc-calc.html. If someones come across a better one it'd be nice to know about.

 

[Pin]

Well, if I am still around then, my SC suit works out to:


Stats:
Str: 70 Int: 0 Hits: 196
Con: 75 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 76 Cha: 0
Qui: 76 Emp: 0

Resists:
Body: 27 Energy: 27 Crush: 22
Cold: 27 Matter: 25 Thrust: 23
Heat: 27 Spirit: 16 Slash: 23

Skills:
11 Critical Strike
11 Dual Wield
2 Envenom (+11 ninja-equip)
11 Stealth
11 Thrust


(Probably not quite final, may be tweaked a little and does rely on my getting hold of 1 item which isn't exactly common. Oh, and everything overcharged )

 

[old.LandShark]

Impressive, Pin... shows that I've done mine a totally unoptimal way. =)
Care to post your full config report?
(read: plzplzplzplz post your full config report!)

 

[belth]

I've pretty much the same setup coming as Pin, assuming I can gather enough money for a MP set & weapons, but no ninja-swapping or +hits nor hard to get items. Barring the swapping & +hits, the resists are a bit different. With a couple hard to get items I suspect it'd be possible to get a setup with capped resists, stats and hits, with +11 to 4 skills - +11 to 5 is pretty impossible to fit there without sacrificing something else, which would be +hits for me.

I'll sell the setup info for 10p

 

[Pin]

Well, here's the full config report after a bit more tweaking.
But I don't think most people are going to be too happy with the 37/32 point overcharges on most items

Anyway, I believe the jewelry set up is altogether the best to be found (although there's probably more SI items not known about yet, and maybe some random drops from the RvR dungeon to get next patch which might beat some). The worst items are the rings and belt. Haven't managed to find anything better though


My guess is this would cost about 15plat to make

Config Report

Stats:
Str: 73 Int: 0 Hits: 204
Con: 75 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 76 Cha: 0
Qui: 76 Emp: 0

Resists:
Body: 27 Energy: 27 Crush: 22
Cold: 27 Matter: 25 Thrust: 23
Heat: 27 Spirit: 18 Slash: 23

Skills:
11 Critical Strike
11 Dual Wield
2 Envenom
11 Stealth
11 Thrust


Focus:



Chest:
Imbue Points: 36 of 32 (100% Qual) Overcharge: 70%
Gem 1: 3 Stealth - 100% rough Airy Battle Jewel
Gem 2: 25 Quickness - 100% flawless Airy Essence Jewel
Gem 3: 7 Cold Resist - 100% imperfect Icy Shielding Jewel
Gem 4: 9 Slash Resist - 100% polished Watery Shielding Jewel
Utility: 63.7

Arms:
Imbue Points: 37 of 32 (100% Qual) Overcharge: 50%
Gem 1: 4 Stealth - 100% flawed Airy Battle Jewel
Gem 2: 22 Quickness - 100% precious Airy Essence Jewel
Gem 3: 9 Spirit Resist - 100% polished Vapor Shielding Jewel
Gem 4: 7 Heat Resist - 100% imperfect Heated Shielding Jewel
Utility: 66.7

Head:
Imbue Points: 36 of 32 (100% Qual) Overcharge: 70%
Gem 1: 4 Critical Strike - 100% flawed Heated Battle Jewel
Gem 2: 3 Thrust - 100% rough Dusty War Sigil
Gem 3: 22 Constitution - 100% precious Earthen Essence Jewel
Gem 4: 9 Thrust Resist - 100% polished Airy Shielding Jewel
Utility: 67.7

Legs:
Imbue Points: 37 of 32 (100% Qual) Overcharge: 50%
Gem 1: 4 Dual Wield - 100% flawed Icy War Sigil
Gem 2: 22 Constitution - 100% precious Earthen Essence Jewel
Gem 3: 7 Energy Resist - 100% imperfect Light Shielding Jewel
Gem 4: 9 Spirit Resist - 100% polished Vapor Shielding Jewel
Utility: 66.7

Hands:
Imbue Points: 37 of 32 (100% Qual) Overcharge: 50%
Gem 1: 4 Critical Strike - 100% flawed Heated Battle Jewel
Gem 2: 25 Strength - 100% flawless Fiery Essence Jewel
Gem 3: 52 Hits - 100% faceted Blood Essence Jewel
Gem 4: 7 Matter Resist - 100% imperfect Earthen Shielding Jewel
Utility: 63.7

Feet:
Imbue Points: 37 of 32 (100% Qual) Overcharge: 50%
Gem 1: 3 Dual Wield - 100% rough Icy War Sigil
Gem 2: 25 Quickness - 100% flawless Airy Essence Jewel
Gem 3: 22 Dexterity - 100% precious Vapor Essence Jewel
Gem 4: 9 Body Resist - 100% polished Dusty Shielding Jewel
Utility: 64.3

Right Hand:
Imbue Points: 37 of 32 (100% Qual) Overcharge: 50%
Gem 1: 4 Thrust - 100% flawed Dusty War Sigil
Gem 2: 22 Dexterity - 100% precious Vapor Essence Jewel
Gem 3: 52 Hits - 100% faceted Blood Essence Jewel
Gem 4: 9 Matter Resist - 100% polished Earthen Shielding Jewel
Utility: 65.7

Left Hand:
Imbue Points: 37 of 32 (100% Qual) Overcharge: 50%
Gem 1: 4 Thrust - 100% flawed Dusty War Sigil
Gem 2: 22 Dexterity - 100% precious Vapor Essence Jewel
Gem 3: 52 Hits - 100% faceted Blood Essence Jewel
Gem 4: 9 Matter Resist - 100% polished Earthen Shielding Jewel
Utility: 65.7

Two Handed:
Imbue Points: 37 of 32 (100% Qual) Overcharge: 50%
Gem 1: 4 Thrust - 100% flawed Dusty War Sigil
Gem 2: 22 Dexterity - 100% precious Vapor Essence Jewel
Gem 3: 52 Hits - 100% faceted Blood Essence Jewel
Gem 4: 9 Matter Resist - 100% polished Earthen Shielding Jewel
Utility: 65.7

Ranged:
Imbue Points: 0 of 1 (100% Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.0

Neck:
Name: Avernal Necklace
Level: 0 Quality: 0
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 10 Heat Resist
Effect 2: 10 Energy Resist
Effect 3: 19 Constitution
Effect 4: Empty
Utility: 52.7

Cloak:
Name: Grand Summoner's Silken Mantle
Level: 0 Quality: 0
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 48 Hits
Effect 2: 10 Slash Resist
Effect 3: 10 Thrust Resist
Effect 4: 10 Crush Resist
Utility: 72.0

Jewel:
Name: Infernal Black Diamond
Level: 0 Quality: 0
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 10 Cold Resist
Effect 2: 10 Body Resist
Effect 3: 18 Strength
Effect 4: Empty
Utility: 52.0

Belt:
Name: Belt of Granite Enhancement
Level: 0 Quality: 0
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 12 Strength
Effect 2: 4 Slash Resist
Effect 3: 4 Thrust Resist
Effect 4: 4 Crush Resist
Utility: 32.0

Right Ring:
Name: Infernal Black Diamond Ring
Level: 0 Quality: 0
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 12 Strength
Effect 2: 12 Constitution
Effect 3: 10 Cold Resist
Effect 4: Empty
Utility: 36.0

Left Ring:
Name: Ring of Shades
Level: 0 Quality: 0
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 6 Strength
Effect 2: 6 Dexterity
Effect 3: 2 Envenom
Effect 4: 3 Critical Strike
Utility: 33.0

Right Wrist:
Name: Bracer of the Stealthy
Level: 0 Quality: 0
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 4 Quickness
Effect 2: 4 Stealth
Effect 3: 10 Heat Resist
Effect 4: 8 Body Resist
Utility: 58.7

Left Wrist:
Name: Roguish Bracer
Level: 0 Quality: 0
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 4 Dexterity
Effect 2: 4 Dual Wield
Effect 3: 10 Energy Resist
Effect 4: 8 Crush Resist
Utility: 58.7

 

[Pin]

Originally posted by belth
With a couple hard to get items I suspect it'd be possible to get a setup with capped resists, stats and hits, with +11 to 4 skills

Capping 9 resists, 4 stats, hits and +11 to 4 skills is impossible with Albion items, although the proof of this is too long to fit in the margin


(You'd need a total of 938 Utility points for this (actually more due to the odd wasted % resist, etc). The highest I could get from Albion jewelry, cloak, belt, etc was ~400. That leaves ~540 to go between 8 SC'd crafted items, which I don't believe is possible, even overcharging all items to 37 imbue points)

 

[belth]

Guess I'll have to sacrifice +hits then. I suspect Hibs have it easier as usual...

 

[Tranquil-]

Hahem, I noticed that you are going to use MP gems only Pin?

 

[Pin]

Originally posted by Tranquil-
Hahem, I noticed that you are going to use MP gems only Pin?

No, but I'm not going to predict exactly what they'll be. I'll likely use 99s though. That's supposedly a 38% chance on the 37/32 overcharges

 

[Tranquil-]

Hehe, let me know when you'll have someone to imbue that set, I want to watch

 

[Pin]

Originally posted by Tranquil-
Hehe, let me know when you'll have someone to imbue that set, I want to watch

Sadist?

 

[Tranquil-]

Hey, I'm not the one making some poor guy blow himself to bits

 

[Pin]

Originally posted by Tranquil-
Hey, I'm not the one making some poor guy blow himself to bits

some poor guy would probably = me.... me = masochist

 

[Cowled]

Mazzi, one of the first spellcrafters to reach lvl 1000 (or what ever it takes )

...If not the first...

 

[Vasconcelos]

Originally posted by Draylor

Oh, and I dont know what calculator you were using to work that out, but the best Ive come across is http://theharms.org/daoc/sc-calc.html. If someones come across a better one it'd be nice to know about.

Linkdead, would be glad if u could post it again

Thx

 

[old.LandShark]

OK, grand summoner's mantle and massively unlikely overcharges would be the reason why I couldn't get close to that kind of setup.
I mean, WOW if you actually manage to get it together, but it's a bit unrealistic surely?

Hoping to cap 5 stats, 2 skills, my +hp and all but spirit and matter resist.
Unless I get a realm respec sometime, I'm stuck with my resists starting from 12% instead of 0%, so I can probably drop down a load of em if i need to...

 

[belth]

5 point overcharge isn't that much to be asked atleast according to some tests. Just make sure the jewels are 98+ and crafter's 1k.

I'm getting pretty much the same config currently as Pin (small variances ofcourse), but with Ignuix's Portible Shadow as cloak and no +hits. Why, oh why only 1 gem combination gives 75 utility, and it's even only 3 point overcharge

 

[Pin]

Originally posted by old.LandShark
OK, grand summoner's mantle and massively unlikely overcharges would be the reason why I couldn't get close to that kind of setup.
I mean, WOW if you actually manage to get it together, but it's a bit unrealistic surely?

Well, I tried looking up what overcharges are 'likely', but there isn't very much data out there... The best I could come up with was this thread:

http://vnboards.ign.com/message.asp?topic=41398699&replies=14

Looking at Leladia's posts

"Hm... on level 51 stuff, I've basically been overcharging all 99% items to +4 and 100% items to +5... all 99% gems (if I get an MP, I'll use a 98% if I get one first), and haven't had a mishap in about 30 or so items."

So, 36 and 37 points on MP level 51 items doesn't seem all that unlikely.


On the Summoner's Mantle.... Yup, that's the 1 item in my set up that will be tough to get hold of. At least I'll be able to use a player-made MP cloak until I could get one (I'm sure I could find something in Katou's vault worthy of the trade )

 

[belth]

I'm starting to think that the program's bugged - 80 utility on a item that can succeed and I'm quite sure I tried it earlier. Nevertheless, it works after restarting it. 4x4 skills on a MP is doable

 

[Pin]

Originally posted by belth
I'm starting to think that the program's bugged - 80 utility on a item that can succeed and I'm quite sure I tried it earlier. Nevertheless, it works after restarting it. 4x4 skills on a MP is doable

Basically, you get a better rate of Utility/Embue cost with +skills than the rest (first level of skill is free to add), next is resists, and then +hits and +stats are last.

Sure you can group all the +skills on 1 item and get 80 utility, but after doing 1 or 2 items like that you'll be struggling to get much over 60 utility on the others.

 

[stinkie]

If I where you Id wait till SI is released. I had both my theurg and my infil's Spell craft template all sorted until I fould out about some of the items available in SI. they are really really amazing. e.g a quest that anyone can do that gives you 2 bracers to choose from out of 8 different types, yes i said 2 !! all the different types of bracer I saw would come close to somthing you would expect to see drop from the DF prince.

I only mentioned the bracer quest here but you can be sure there are going to be a few more real nice items come SI. so best not to go spending billions of plat getting 100% qual armour weps shield and whatever all overspeced will 100% qual jewels just yet

cant remember link to bracer info but will post it when i see it again.