Sorcs!!

[Antedeluvian]

sorc can nuke 4-5 times in under 2 seconds and the Lifetap dmg does same/more than spec'ed nuke... what more do you need? 50% abs buffs and ability to use Large Weapons with 2000+ WS?

Ebayed?

 

[majik]

If we wanted to read whine about classes we would go the VN boards class forums...

 

[Jarahl]

Ilienwyn, if you arent able to understand a sorc whine then I doubt you ever will.

Mosts albs dont find it strange, just how many potent abilities are gathered up in one class. But thats what we have come to expect from albs and their capacity.

You gotta be shitting me? Yes Sorcs are good, but its about DAMN time Alb CC can compete with Mid and Hib CC. Come on, you still got aoe stun. Plz stop saying Sorc > all, they just got other tools than healers. I know Sorcs are good, but like I said its about time Alb CC was brought into balance compared to Mid and Hib

Gezz what a

 

[Lumikki]

Bur I R say run down grass SB hit me many hp and I R not see him, then me cant move he killme?

i WANT SEE THEM TOO AND KILL AND MABY ME GET CHAIN SO ME NO DIE sb OR HUNTOR FAST?

I R K MEIGHT?!

 

[haarewin]

You gotta be shitting me? Yes Sorcs are good, but its about DAMN time Alb CC can compete with Mid and Hib CC. Come on, you still got aoe stun. Plz stop saying Sorc > all, they just got other tools than healers. I know Sorcs are good, but like I said its about time Alb CC was brought into balance compared to Mid and Hib

Gezz what a

but its not balanced. its far superior.

 

[Glottis]

but its not balanced. its far superior.

In what way mate?
In the way healers are superior to clerics?
Or in the way savages/zerkers where superior to any other tank out there?
Or in the way SM pets are hilarious and that BD's are just stupid?
Or maybe you prefer facing a chanter and finding out that stun=death...
Just wondering.
Regards, Glottis

 

[Filip]

try get a template !! it migth help !!!

 

[Votan]

Tried playing a sorc in thid and a darkness specced spiritmaster.. i enjoyed playing the sm a lot more... but thats just personal preference.

Opposing realms will always whine/moan or comment about classes in other realms that are deemed to be "overpowered".

 

[majik]

Tried playing a sorc in thid and a darkness specced spiritmaster.. i enjoyed playing the sm a lot more... but thats just personal preference.

Opposing realms will always whine/moan or comment about classes in other realms that are deemed to be "overpowered".

Thid r0x

 

[Votan]

It was OF thid though

 

[Claudius]

but its not balanced. its far superior.

Read Filip's post. He got it right.

 

[Giga]

hmm sorc overpowered?


ok lets say for 1sec they ar overpowered whit the bolt range mezz, remove the bolt range mezz and make it 1500 range? ok so all hibs and mids have to do it insta, oh and i almost forgot we dont have insta mezz, we only have a gay isnta pbaoe on smith cleric, a 700 range insta stun on mincers, and clerics get a stun on base line smith.

now lets see what mids and hibs have, healers, isingel isnta mezz/stun aoe mezz/stun, and i may be wrong as its a long time since i played mid, but its on a 1500 range, so only a 375 less range, and bards also got a insta mezz, chanters for the stun, whits imo is on the wrong char thinking where is it on mids and albs move it tot he druid and its even.

and healers can also get the first spread heal and stil be a good cc, 3 lines that ar good, sorc only 2 as the matter line have nothing usefull in it.

and sorc got a lifetab yer well so does BD and sm's when they spec for it, and sm's ar abit more powerfull but same speed, and sm's got a pet that interceps, so they ar more or less melee immun,

thes is not a whine im just pointing out that wer not overpowered just different, we lack in melee defence thats why we got SoI (Shield of immunity) now whits you btw have to be rr5 to get, hibs and mids mezzer have melee denfences even as lvl 20.

if we should lose the bolt range mezz, ar healers and bard needed to lose ther insta.

so plz cut the whining about sorc and find a new target

 

[Radix]

So sorc defence is that compared to a FG of enemies his solo abilities arent that many?

You can count your self how many classes you had to mention, and you still didnt make any point.

 

[tookha]

tehe, i found that cute.

 

[moik]

Remove chanters stun = no cc on a caster, oh what fun that would be
Merry x-mas

 

[Rushie]

I didnt see many ppl complaining in the OP savage era as they 2 shotted us, had a little chuckle and moved onto next victim. it wasnt that fun to play a sorc back then and even worse was the fact i was only cloth armour caster in grp (b4 theurg got some love).

The way i see it any sorc who played through this era deserves the overpowered class they are playing just now coz obviously somewhere down the line it will get hit with a nerf, just like every other OP class that has been.

On the other hand all these fucking fotm sorcs who started appearing just b4 nf just piss me off, they just roll the OP class and abuse it untill it gets nerfed and move on again to next OP class(thus speeding up the never-ending whine-nerf-new OP class, roundabout).

Anyway keep the whines coming they are rather funny


P.S. to the ppl whining about dieing to 5 nukes..............a few months ago u were whining about hibs killing just about any class in 2 nukes...... what do u want? casters having to cast 10 nukes to kill someone?.

P.P.S FZ > any caster

 

[Vodkafairy]

lol how can anyone ask for changes on a sorc, prolly one of the most solid classes out there. also healers are fine, just different, i don't see why people are whining really..

a good sorc should win cc almost all the time, but from my experiences yesterday most of them just blow. they lost mez to my eld (1.5k range only) more often than not.. shrug

if only elds had speed

 

[Giga]

So sorc defence is that compared to a FG of enemies his solo abilities arent that many?

You can count your self how many classes you had to mention, and you still didnt make any point.

ok i will point it out then just for you..

sorc only got the bolt range mezz becos alb dont have a decent range isnta, before sorc got bolt range mezz all mids and hibs had to do was to insta, and win, sorc got SoI becos albs cc'er is onyl in cloth, mids in chain and hibs in studded, also how much hp does bards and ehalers have buffed? sorc have only 1.2k to 1.6k when really toaed out whit +con and +hits cap etc and yet stil in cloth,


also i respeced my sorc body a long time ago and i find it more fun

its becos of the instas, if bards and healers didet have ther isnta whould everything be fine, sorc whould stil ahve 1500 range mezz

 

[Nausilus^^]

Tbh I think most sorcs wont face the fact that their class MAY be overpowered in certain situations. It's funny when people try to drag in zerks and savages in the comparison, because they DID get nerfed.. sorcs didn't yet. Infact why counter attack the whine with a whole bunch of whine directed at the opposing realms (mostly for you Glottis) instead of arguing about how the sorc is instead of how all other classes are?

-1.5sec casting time a myth? I really doubt it until I see some tests that prove it's not wrong. Tests made by a toa caster with max casting speed, dex cap and what else he can get to reduce casting time.
Sorcs overpowered? Well, in a few aspects they are more solid than any other class, especially when taking rr5 ability into account, and because they're the only class in the GAME who has a mezz resist buff (apart from resist buffs vs the type of magic mezz are, and at least for mids you need a healer with high aug to get a decent body resist buff)
They have lifetap, which does really nice dmg (don't get started on whine here sorcs, because it IS nice with pierce magic and +% magic dmg etc) and in a sorc assist train with lifetap, they walk away without a scratch.

They may be overpowered, and they may not be overpowered.. but imo a well played sorc can take out most classes without too much trouble and if they use RA's wisely. Don't whine so much.. it's Christmas


Oh and is just so fotm.. pfft =)

 

[Giga]

so what should be nerf?

dont just say they ar overpowered if you dont even say why and how to fix it

 

[Divinia]

Framfalls posts is amusing...

 

[snopy]

lol another one in the stock , plz post somit new will ya

this is just ZzzzZZzz :touch:

 

[Lothandar]

You gotta be shitting me? Yes Sorcs are good, but its about DAMN time Alb CC can compete with Mid and Hib CC. Come on, you still got aoe stun. Plz stop saying Sorc > all, they just got other tools than healers. I know Sorcs are good, but like I said its about time Alb CC was brought into balance compared to Mid and Hib

Gezz what a

It iz a known fact that the bolt range mez was added "recently".

 

[Haton]

hmm sorc overpowered?


ok lets say for 1sec they ar overpowered whit the bolt range mezz, remove the bolt range mezz and make it 1500 range? ok so all hibs and mids have to do it insta, oh and i almost forgot we dont have insta mezz, we only have a gay isnta pbaoe on smith cleric, a 700 range insta stun on mincers, and clerics get a stun on base line smith.

now lets see what mids and hibs have, healers, isingel isnta mezz/stun aoe mezz/stun, and i may be wrong as its a long time since i played mid, but its on a 1500 range, so only a 375 less range, and bards also got a insta mezz, chanters for the stun, whits imo is on the wrong char thinking where is it on mids and albs move it tot he druid and its even.

and healers can also get the first spread heal and stil be a good cc, 3 lines that ar good, sorc only 2 as the matter line have nothing usefull in it.

and sorc got a lifetab yer well so does BD and sm's when they spec for it, and sm's ar abit more powerfull but same speed, and sm's got a pet that interceps, so they ar more or less melee immun,

thes is not a whine im just pointing out that wer not overpowered just different, we lack in melee defence thats why we got SoI (Shield of immunity) now whits you btw have to be rr5 to get, hibs and mids mezzer have melee denfences even as lvl 20.

if we should lose the bolt range mezz, ar healers and bard needed to lose ther insta.

so plz cut the whining about sorc and find a new target

See there is one problem with your argument, you compare the sorcs abilities to those in other realms, however the sorc gets all these in 1 class whereas you compare it to abilites on more than 1 mid class.

 

[Antedeluvian]

See there is one problem with your argument, you compare the sorcs abilities to those in other realms, however the sorc gets all these in 1 class whereas you compare it to abilites on more than 1 mid class.

Well, the healers and the bards have more abilities too, want us to begin listing the support a bard or a healer can and will add to a group which a sorc cant?

 

[Ilienwyn]

Remove chanters stun = no cc on a caster, oh what fun that would be
Merry x-mas

We could give you root instead like most casters have?

Oh wait, root breaks when you hit them, tough luck...

 

[Giga]

Well, the healers and the bards have more abilities too, want us to begin listing the support a bard or a healer can and will add to a group which a sorc cant?

straik

 

[Haton]

Well, the healers and the bards have more abilities too, want us to begin listing the support a bard or a healer can and will add to a group which a sorc cant?

bards and healers are not the classes in question here.

 

[Ilienwyn]

bards and healers are not the classes in question here.

yeah, ok. someone make new thread then!

 

[Glottis]

Infact why counter attack the whine with a whole bunch of whine directed at the opposing realms (mostly for you Glottis) instead of arguing about how the sorc is instead of how all other classes are?

I tell them so you retards can actually understand the amount of bullshit you guys are talking. 3 Ubah classes vs one ubah class for Albion and yet you all complain like your being taken by a 3 meter talk black dude...
Regards, Glottis

PS. Merry fecking Christmas