Sorcs specs

[Tasslehoff]

Hullo, was thinking of starting as a sorcerer on alb/exc.

What are the different specs mostly used, and what are the cons/pros? Will proberbly end up using one of my own, but would like to know of the other ones =)

 

[Shaitan]

I think the two most common are 36 mind 40 body and 44 mind rest body (forget how much). Pros and cons.. 36 mind gives you 2nd best mez with lesser radius but better nukes

 

[Tasslehoff]

Are there no one with 48 body? Though body sorc's was most for the debuffs

 

[waok`whips]

I don't know if there is much truth behind this, but I would guess its difficult for a body sorc to get a group w/o being in a good guild and also at low RR with having high body you will have low impact on a groups effectiveness and also your mez line won't be anything too good until the high rr's.

Saying that though, if your in a fixed debuff group and you have had experience playing a class like the sorc, then I guess getting your rr's, equipment and ML's shoudnt be too hard.

I personally went body spec to start, I didnt like not being able to mezz as good as I could, and I didnt like not having L50 pets or yellow AOE mezz, so I went to 40/36 and I'm really happy with it, becuase often you will find that if your not in a good guild, you will be running in random groups, who typically won't have a strong mezzer, this is where I think 40/36 has its nice balance of yellow mezz and yellow fire debuff... so you can do main/backup mezz for guild groups, and you can drop back to backup mezzer and debuffer for your group if its a random, and debuffs if its a debuff group.

Your playstyle, play how you see best and stay with it. :wub:

 

[FoxeH]

Mines close to hitting 40 now and i've decided to go 40 body 36 mind. My first choice was the 44 mind 31 body, but with NF coming and the ability to have a 5 minute purge i see it as pritty pointless to have that few extra seconds on and aoe mez which will most likely get purged anyway. Plus with more in body you'll be getting a better aoe root to use as backup if they do purge and of course, alot more damage on your nukes

 

[Draylor]

Are there no one with 48 body?

Grymluv is currently 48+ body, thats about the only active high-body spec sorc I can think of

 

[Tasslehoff]

Well, I´ll get to see what fits me best =)

 

[Brynn]

Are there no one with 48 body? Though body sorc's was most for the debuffs

I had that on my sorc - its great when your a /assist nuker - or the main assist for fire wizzies.

But its shite when people take you in the group expecting you to do decent mezzes

Thats why i changed my last name to CantMezz.

But i really like that spec - with some nice toa items for debuffs, my debuffs had about 25% extra effectancy (if thats even a word)

 

[Knolan]

i used to have a sorc i started off with 46 mind spec cuz i hated to wait so long for pwr in PvE but it got quite boring after a while so i respecced to 46 body which gave me the best spec nuke a good root and dex/quick debuff and ofc the 50% debuffs which were nice in ice/fire wizz grp's.

but, if i have to be completely honest i'd go 50 matter yeah really you should. lotsa fun double dotting.

 

[Tasslehoff]

Hmm... Thanks for all the advise =)

Matter doesen't really appeal me though.

Ps. Messiah, write please ;p

 

[Trigs]

IMO until you are RR 4-5 + and / or have leveled or your artifacts and TOA'd out I would go with 40b 36m. Why?

1. You get a lvl 50 Pet

2. Yellow Crack

3. 2nd Best Body Spec nuke good for lvling artis especially with the upcoming FOP nerf.

If you were to say go to 44m rest body then you are kinda stuck with lvling up your artis with LT and with the upcoming fop nerf (if you even have a fop bot) then power consumption is going to be greater.

Once all Toa'd out etc then either stay that spec if you are happy or go 44m or body, which ever takes your fancy.

 

[Shadowmag]

personally i went 44/31 - red aoe mezz anti mezz chant and i still have some decent nukes i dont think that debuffs are that important when ppl actually expect u to win mezz and keep the nmy under control - but ofc with NF that will change and ofc u also get red con/str debuff which is a nice interrupter and really facilitates yer job when dealing with tanks

 

[Klonk]

(this is from an alb noob, but still..)

I hate it when I play around with char builder, and find a spec I think is good (and that I hope is not fotm) and then it turns out it's the fotm spec

I played around with char builder, and I found 37 mind/39 body or 36 mind/40 body sounded cool, nerf! ^^

 

[Pin]

But i really like that spec - with some nice toa items for debuffs, my debuffs had about 25% extra effectancy (if thats even a word)

There are no toa bonuses that effect resist debuffs' efficiency, the "+stat debuff bonus" only effects stat debuffs.
You can add +duration, but that's it.

 

[Troggie]

40 body and 36 mind is not a good spec if u want dmg.. baseline still does more dmg then ur spec nuke.. ur mezz is ok but not the best.. you just get average.. if u want dmg.. spec 47 body rest mind same mezz as 36 mind spec mezz only less duration best spec imo is 44 mind 31 body

 

[Z^^]

(this is from an alb noob, but still..)

I hate it when I play around with char builder, and find a spec I think is good (and that I hope is not fotm) and then it turns out it's the fotm spec

I played around with char builder, and I found 37 mind/39 body or 36 mind/40 body sounded cool, nerf! ^^

thats what its all about really numbers there and here and then you figure out what spec you wanna be I bet the first one "thats abit odd" gives something you like and might end up even being the better spec.. thats why my spec for cleric isn't "fotm" but works decently with the other good common high enhance specs..

 

[Slans]

two peneth - my sorc is now a salvage bot, no matter wot i do he gets killed first always.. cleric my new hopw =D

 

[serious]

and ofc u also get red con/str debuff which is a nice interrupter and really facilitates yer job when dealing with tanks

you sure you play a sorc?

insta debuffs dont interrupt..well they shouldnt..only hibs get an instant debuffs thats interrupting, which is a bug/cheat/flaw/etc..

i was 44 mind forever..really liked the 44 mezz..but ive been splitspec now for a while..need NF tho to sort some of the resists to my yellow mezz/root/debuffs.

S.

 

[Red HATred]

my thought about sorc
pro's and contra's mixed,

pve wise:
if you prefer to hunt with a cleric in a duo team, mind spec is verry important. The fact you have a pet make pve worth while for a sorc in this combination. If you haven't got a cleric to duo with, you will need a balanced spec. So mind-body for the yellow con spells..; yellow con pet with medium nukes to do the killing.

rvr wise:
If you spec body 48 you will have the best nukes and the base life-tap which is a nice combination. But this spec will limit you to rvr only or grouping in pve. In rvr the root seems to be a lot more fun to use then a mezz.. (imo). Having both on the other hand, gives you the option to bypass immunity timers after one has been purged or something.

A balanced spec in rvr has its backdrafts. Tons off resists combined with TOA-reflects, RA-removals and suicidel pboae users, gives you an average result off succes. This however becomes better at high realm rank (nothing you can do about the stupid pbaoe).


so to conclude a bit:
if you create a sorc think of two things:
What do you want to do with your sorc. What have you got availble to support you.

pve: balanced spec: all rounder
body: useless solo
mind: solo player
rvr: balanced : medium results but overall support
body : best secondairy nuker in the game
mind: mezzing highest level: 15% chance of sticking

just my thoughts atm

 

[Generation]

The lvl44 mezz has an increased radius which also comes in very handy.

If you choose body spec then you're gonna be one of the following:

1. MA for a fire wizz caster group, you'll be debuffing
2. Assisting a spirit cab in a cab/sorc group

If you choose mind spec then you'll be responsible for the intial CC, then you *should* be concentrating on interrupting the enemy healers/casters (low lvl ae mezz rocks for this since it costs virtually no power and has 350 radius)

Split spec is kinda in between tho you'll mostly fall into the CC side of things since there don't seem to be too many 44/31 sorcs around lately.

 

[Tasslehoff]

I'm really thinking of going 46 body / 28 mind.

Seems like debuff-groups are some of the nicest, and I can fit into both kinds with that spec... Even though I'm not sure if anyone uses the cold debuff, do they? =p

 

[gritzy]

Grymluv is currently 48+ body, thats about the only active high-body spec sorc I can think of

i wouldnt even bother with 48 body, may aswell spec 50 for the last nuke if ur gonna go down the body route, ive played that for a long time works fine, tho im split now but still a strong setup

 

[gritzy]

I'm really thinking of going 46 body / 28 mind.

Seems like debuff-groups are some of the nicest, and I can fit into both kinds with that spec... Even though I'm not sure if anyone uses the cold debuff, do they? =p

50 body 29 mind is the spec to go for at high body

 

[Elvodus]

LOL some Counter Strike players should see this forum and this thread...almost sientific...hehehe

 

[Knolan]

when i was still playing my sorc we did ice wizz grps with asylum, and i sure as hell debuffed all wizzies benifit from ice debuff (specially when its 50%)

 

[Spyf]

Grymluv is currently 48+ body, thats about the only active high-body spec sorc I can think of

Only coz Mazter aint considered a Sorc

 

[Tasslehoff]

may aswell spec 50 for the last nuke if ur gonna go down the body route

Oh, I was rather sure the last nuke was at 45 body spec, said so on the herald.

46 for 50 % debuff, I see no reason to get the matter debuff

 

[gritzy]

meant 45 body not 50, 45 body 29mind

 

[Crimson LoneWolf]

Would you still outdamage the 50 baseline lifetap even with the higher delve body specline dd spells? 1 s vs 1.5 s..

 

[Marc]

im pretty sure i read somewhere (on here) that the majority of body sorcs use their level 50 base DD in debuff groups, due to less power consumption although im probably wrong.