Sorcerers?

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thunder96x

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After playing a healer for quite a long time, I've decided to come to Albion. I'm torn between playing a caster and having CC.. but I noticed that the sorcerer is both. So, my question is this: Do you recommend me to bother with leveling a Sorcerer? Or are there better classes?

I just don't want to waste time leveling a character that will be poor in RvR (and PvE for that matter). Any help would be appreciated.
 
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Tualatin

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Sorc; THE alb CC caster.
has good util (speed/cc/pom/pet/nukes).

This also makes them priority for enemies to kill you first.


You'll be highly wanted in RvR, in random groups but also good guilds will accept a good CCer.

Aslong as you can take some beating... (I'd suggest Briton caster so you won't be extra funrable due to AVALONIAN orsmt).



Also leveling shouldn't be too hard, charming gives you pets.. but also for groups CC / PoM.
 
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stinkie

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Originally posted by Tualatin
Aslong as you can take some beating... (I'd suggest Briton caster so you won't be extra funrable due to AVALONIAN orsmt).
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inconnu have the same con as brit higher dex and higher int and there smaller. not a hard choice imo
 
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Pin

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Originally posted by thunder96x
After playing a healer for quite a long time, I've decided to come to Albion. I'm torn between playing a caster and having CC.. but I noticed that the sorcerer is both.
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If by 'caster' you mean 'nuker', then a Body-specced Sorcerer is a good choice (46body, rest mind, for example), 209DD nuke, AE root, elemental debuffs, crack3, green pet, but your mezzing will be poor ;)

Or you can spec much higher Mind, and your nuking will be poor.


Or some split-specs, etc... or go freaky Matter-specced :p
 
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stinkie

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Originally posted by Pin
(except that Body-Sorcs are actually good)
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Eky has some strange smite fettish going on today. hes just been chatting about it in GU not 1 min ago.
 
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enkor

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and posting on guild forums.. I'm afraid hes gonna level one soon :puke:
 
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Belomar

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If I was going to level a sorc, I'd make him a Saracen with 15 into dexterity and 10 into constitution -- screw intelligence (a mind sorcerer isn't expected to kill anything anyway). Cast speed is king in RvR, and with an appropriate amount of AugDex, MotArt, and buffbot buffs you will be churning out mezzes like nothing before. I was able to get 350 dex quite easily when I tried a Saracen sorcerer on the test server -- near-insta mezzing. ;)
 
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thunder96x

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Thanks for all the replies! I was going to go Saracen, as I don't care much for Inconnu. :) Does anyone know which is more needed.. Mind/Body or Body/Mind? On my old server, mind sorcerers were everywhere. Just curious.
 
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Tualatin

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you won't be picked in RvR guild because you can nuke that good ;P - Take the mind (=mezz?) spec, and you'll be wanted.

Or, if you so choose.. go the body spec till 20/40 and respec at latest (lvl40) back to mind, so you can do some soloing.
 
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-Freezingwiz-

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Originally posted by Tualatin
you won't be picked in RvR guild because you can nuke that good ;P - Take the mind (=mezz?) spec, and you'll be wanted.

Or, if you so choose.. go the body spec till 20/40 and respec at latest (lvl40) back to mind, so you can do some soloing.
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mind >> body in soloing... u got pet a same lvl pet & crack
 
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Vasconcelos

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44 mind (last aeMezz)

30 body (1st aeRoot)


looks like a good specc, multiple types of CC 4tehwinn!!1 :p
 
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stt_tts_sst

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mind >> body in soloing... u got pet a same lvl pet & crack


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just curious how a mind spec >> body in soloing situiation...

just want to add 1 thing..sorc pet is for interupting and thats about all it does in my sorc playing expericence...and the pet can kill u in an instance if ur careful with it in solo situiation.

as for the oringinal question..u ll have a good time playing a mind sorc in rvr, u ll die pretty much in 5 seconds but grouping wont be as hard as other in general once u have built up a ok ish reputation...good rvr group will look for u....generally a sorc is almost a must have class in any decent alb rvr group..

body sorc...hmmm this is hard (for my experience in PvE and RvR, body sorcs are more suitable for players have more experience in the char, it can be deadly if played right also can be completely useless in some rvr group setup)...ask ur self what type of group u ll generally grouped in in the end game

sorc IS NOT made to nuke...i cant stress this point more...

regards and have fun
 
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Belomar

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Originally posted by stt_tts_sst
sorc IS NOT made to nuke...i cant stress this point more...
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Body sorcerers who assist nuke me normally go all weak-legged. Ask Talrasha, he nuked a Mid healer for 595 + 200 crit. :)
 
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Fagane

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Mind 46 is prity intresting.

At 44 you get last AoE mezz
At 45 you get a good resist vs mezz
At 46 you get the last PoT

While the group chant at 49 is nice (+15 resist) I find the bonus kind a low for the extra points you would lose.

Rest in body (28?) and while you miss the area root, you still got a desent single target root and some nice debuffs/life drains.

Fagane
 
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acei

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My final spec will be 44mind, 30body. The 30body is a must, you get your DD, your debuffs and AE-root (good for if they purge mezz). 44mind is great for the last mezz.

Inconnu is a MUST! I've been in RvR a little bit lately with my PBAOE group and the mids must be blind or i'm so short they don't see me because i'm almost never the first target even though i mezz/root all of them.
 
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skile

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Go saracen, fastest casting thing. It's very important to get that mezz of asap.
 
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iluvatur

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i've played every sorcerer spec, bar high matter, if you play in an organised rvr guild and have competent defense/support, then high mind is ok ( ie 44-46ish) cos they can capitalise on the mezz etc. relying on pets IMO sucks in rvr, ok for soloing if you have 40+ in matter/body for kiting etc tho.

But my favourite spec out of all is 46 body/28 mind

i sometimes felt my cc was better with the 39 aoe root, and the 24 mezz. as i didnt rely on my 24 mezz, i was alot more vigilant with cc ( stacking mezzes, roots, aoe amnesia single amnesia ). the mezz has slightly smaller radius, and a few more resists, but as long as your fast with the targetting ( ie middle of group ) and spam it 2-3 times you usually catch most ppl and interupt/mezz those that resist.

the nukes hit hard, and you can be king with a fire/ice wizard ( a good one that actually knows how to assist). ALOT more surviveability with returns on moc and lifedrain usually being able to save you vs anything but a zerker, savage or fully buffed crit blade. with this spec i always looked for v fast green con pets ( always enough to interupt a healer/bard/chanter)

anyways your choice :eek:
 
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Lizia

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46 mind for me. Giving good PoT makes a lot of friends, and the high mezz resist saved me a few times.

Lizia
 
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-Freezingwiz-

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Originally posted by stt_tts_sst
mind >> body in soloing... u got pet a same lvl pet & crack


__________________
Freezingwiz - one of the first Pbaoers in Alb... =( that was gimped at that time =/ now tall avaloonies are gimped
Gonzales - SOS4tehwin!!1
Wannabe - BG char [ lmao ownage]
DohImBlond - OMG I can heal ^^
HeyIgotpbt - pbt gimp
<Herfølge Boldklub>


just curious how a mind spec >> body in soloing situiation...

just want to add 1 thing..sorc pet is for interupting and thats about all it does in my sorc playing expericence...and the pet can kill u in an instance if ur careful with it in solo situiation.

as for the oringinal question..u ll have a good time playing a mind sorc in rvr, u ll die pretty much in 5 seconds but grouping wont be as hard as other in general once u have built up a ok ish reputation...good rvr group will look for u....generally a sorc is almost a must have class in any decent alb rvr group..

body sorc...hmmm this is hard (for my experience in PvE and RvR, body sorcs are more suitable for players have more experience in the char, it can be deadly if played right also can be completely useless in some rvr group setup)...ask ur self what type of group u ll generally grouped in in the end game

sorc IS NOT made to nuke...i cant stress this point more...

regards and have fun
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k, in solo.....

1. u got Crack
2. u have pet to take the first few hits
3. u still have baseline DoT & Nukes

send pet in... let it take the first few hits....(maybe debuff) DoT, DD, DD etc.... and it goes down... it will stay on the pet with baseline DoT only(let pet get a few hits on the mob ofc) untill u start DDing....

and Crack is realy a good downtime killer....


and for grps witch is the best exp ofc... u got the crack that make the downtime less for everyone, and nice CC when that is needed....

.... and for RvR use I only played Sorc(talrasha a rl m8´s sorc for about 30k rps when he was a mind sorc) a bit but they are fun when u have healers to keep u alive :p

and well he is a body sorc now.... hehe and when he is debuffing ice and I pbaoe I hit for above 1k dmg(MoM2 aswell) pretty nice hehe and nuke for ~600...


regards
 
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Flimgoblin

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Originally posted by enkor
and posting on guild forums.. I'm afraid hes gonna level one soon :puke:
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well if you have buffbots and one rejuv/enhance cleric in the group you might as well get a smite/rejuv type ;) don't gain anything but you're not losing anything either...

(lose unneeded buffing power and gain some unneeded smiting power ;))
 
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Ekydus

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Operation: WTFPWNED is coming to life.

Now for step: FoTM.
 
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Puppetmistress

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Originally posted by Flimgoblin
well if you have buffbots and one rejuv/enhance cleric in the group you might as well get a smite/rejuv type ;) don't gain anything but you're not losing anything either...

(lose unneeded buffing power and gain some unneeded smiting power ;))
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Not really. Buffing takes no mana where smiting does (quite alot even).

The only spells in enhance taking mana are the timered ones and they are important.

I consider a group gimped if they dont have the resist-buffs from a cleric.
 
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old.Ramas

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The Sorcerer

The sorcerer’s life is that of crowd control. It’s why people become sorcerers. They get a nifty charm, and their damage is nothing to sneeze at, but the real perk of being a sorcerer is stopping an entire enemy army mid-charge, with little Z’s floating up from their heads. At least that’s the dream. Unfortunately, 50 levels of grouping with mez-breaking morons like you have made the sorcerer neurotic and brittle. It’s not a comfortable feeling, knowing one idiot can undo your entire contribution to a group and cause you all to die. Thus, most sorcerers are this close to nervous breakdown. They compensate by charming huge pets to soothe their ego, like telamon or megafelids.

Typical Quotes:

“It’s mezzed, don’t hit it. I said don’t hit it! Don’t hit...!... dammit”
“No, numbskull, root is NOT crowd control.”
“...can’t sleep, clowns will eat me... can’t sleep, clowns will eat me... can’t sleep...”
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You should be aware though, that coming from being a healer, sorceror may be something of a shock to the system.

Healers have much better cc than sorcerors.
 
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