Sorc Spec

[Cloak_]

Been messing about with a Sorc on Gorre and thought id ask you lot if what my planned spec (at 50) is any good :

31 Matter
44 Mind

Basically I wanna be a good CC with a bit of dmg output,

So what do ya think ?

 

[Aussie-]

i wouldnt take the last mez , it's useless vs grouppurge
34 is more then enough
41 matter left

 

[fl-gorre]

agree with aussi
u only lose 12secs mezztime and 50ae radius on our mezz
in return u get more damage
however matter isnt good yet imho
it gets nerfed in a few patches so it actually becomes a good specline
u only get a dot and some ae debuff
if u spec body ull get a ae root and some kick arse elemental debuffs
(ice matter and cold)
got a 24mind 49body spec atm and i like it
i cant pet a telemon anymore, but i consider this as a bliss

if u want to be a CC specialist go 34mind first then body30
and then deside wich spec u like most

matter: gimped spec atm respec it later when it gets nerfed

a body/mind spec gives u 1,5minutz mezztime and 1,5minutes root time
trow in some ae debuffs after the first root(s) and our grp will luv u

 

[old.Affydaffymezu]

Aussie is pretty right,

Body= big bad resists, most hib/mid have at least 25% unbuffed, make your calculation...

Matter resist very rare

Missing out on aoe root isnt good indeed but good group contains wizard/theurgist who can do aoe root so not critical.

Afun Mindbreaker
Once a week sorceress for First Cohort o konah)

P.S. respecced from 41body 34mind to matter mind after getting 'hitting xxx for 100- 250' as a constant on my screen.

 

[Cloak_]

Hmm ok,
Missing the last Mezz but, whats the chances of Charm on even con mobs with the spec < LvL

Considering this will be a PvP sever sorc - all resist types will be available to all who know where to get them, so imo gonna be more reliant on tanks/archers doing the dmg with my DoT`s to interupt other casters/healers

I`m guessin someone will say roll a bard/healer - Bards only have 1 CC type so thas out, Healers have abolutely no dmg output so that rules them out also.

Chances are ill have a bard nehow - but wanna decide on whats gonna be my *main* char

 

[Spyf]

Originally posted by fl-gorre
agree with aussi
u only lose 12secs mezztime and 50ae radius on our mezz
in return u get more damage
however matter isnt good yet imho
it gets nerfed in a few patches so it actually becomes a good specline
u only get a dot and some ae debuff
if u spec body ull get a ae root and some kick arse elemental debuffs
(ice matter and cold)
got a 24mind 49body spec atm and i like it
i cant pet a telemon anymore, but i consider this as a bliss

if u want to be a CC specialist go 34mind first then body30
and then deside wich spec u like most

About the mezz i think that whoever have tried the difference between 24 and 34 is a big area difference, i gotta say that, the difference between 24 and 44 (50 in radius each lvl and from 24 to 44 is hell of a jump) and still i beleive that the bigger area are an advance outthere and BTW us sorcs is the main mezzer of albion and should be specced like that.
I know we cant all be mind specced to prevent the resist against our mezz but those who want to mezz please get the big one and forget abot doing damage (we got wizzies for that part) and demand a slam bot when going to RvR, coz otherwise we (sorcs) will be the 1st to hit the ground when we have made our 1st mezz (hmm tried that 1 or 2 times).

Regards

Mazter Mind
Full mind specced and proud of it

 

[Glottis_Xanadu]

Before the respec I was full mind, and I must say both pve and rvr are much more fun when specced less in mind. Yes, Albion classes are specialised, but lets not gimp your sorc too badly, despite Mythic trying to gimp Albion.
My current spec is 34 mind, rest body, and yes, I do get resists, but Wild Power and Mastery of Magery make up for some of the intense resists since Mythic changed our damage type in their eternal wisdom.
I cannot help with the matter spec, I still do not feel it is so great, but I guess I need to get used to it
34 mind will get you 2nd best aoe mezz, and charm (up to own lvl). Note that the pets do not help so much in emain, crap pets there. In Sauvage and Odin's there are much better pets.
41 body gets you 2nd best DD, aoe root, and some heat/col/matter debuffs. Pretty nice for doing some serious damage as far as a sorc goes. But you will hit for 250 due to resists. Not sure on matter spec.
Regards, Glottis

 

[Molten Lava]

My spec

I was 44 mind rest Body before patch.....no/less resists

After 1st respec )!!) I went 34 mind 41 matter...DONT DO THIS...SINGLE DOT IS USELESS IN RVR....the damage output on the DD is almost same as Body (didn't see anything different on damage output with body DD....learn to live with it...sorcs dot 200-300 damage with thier DD not more, not less)

After 2ns respec I went 34 mind 41 body. AoE-root rules (only 2 seconds cast-time, nice to stop that inc tank before you mezz it,...and you have back-up for the resisted mezz, which you get a lot with the 34 mezz

If you dont wanna do any damage but really wanna be main CC'r (and earn 0 RP's every night) go 44 mind, coz I noticed significant difference in being resisted....44 mind 10% resist, 34 mind 50% resist.....that's what I noticed....can be the patch (I only had 44 mind before the patch and only tested 34 mind after that patch) but I think it really is a dfiference...

Again I say: if you wanna go DOT,start a Cabby (1 week and you are lvl 50) Wanna do huge Aoe+DD damage start a wizzy.....we are CC (and we suck at it, at least give us single-insta-mezz)

We'll I managed to get this positive thread into a sorc-whine thread again

good luck with your choice

 

[nanorch]

Bleh, 50 radius increase = 25% more coverage.

Aussie, u dont like the way Sorc's spec/play?

Roll one.

Or stfu.

n00b.

 

[Cloak_]

Note that the pets do not help so much in emain, crap pets there. In Sauvage and Odin's there are much better pets.

Just to remind you, this is for PvP server not normal Excal/Pryd

 

[-Dreama-]

Missing the last Mezz but, whats the chances of Charm on even con mobs with the spec < LvL

Sorc charm doesn't work that way, you get the last charm spell at spec 32 mind, which means you can charm pets up to lvl 50 (tho you may never charm anything higher than yellow con) So to answer that question, if you go 34 mind the chances of charming an even con mob are 100%. Ok, well, not 100% cuz occasionally they do resist the charm, but I've never had a mob agro me when they resist it,so it's just a matter of recasting the charm.

 

[Glottis_Xanadu]

Originally posted by N07ABL3


Just to remind you, this is for PvP server not normal Excal/Pryd

Nah, just that in emain the pets offer little benefit when doing rvr. With Ice stryders spamming the target with roots, and DD'ing them, it is fun. With isolationist sorc from sauvage, they also DD, root, etc. Ellyls sage will bolt the feckers...
Those are nice pets.. emain pets suck, slow...
Regards, Glottis

 

[Loth]

emain pets suck, slow...

Emain sucks, end of story

Pets in Alb and Mid frontier are pretty good, Emain ones seem to be a little lacking (although Bloodletters can be useful at times).

 

[Cloak_]

Well not really seen how the PvP goes on Camlann etc I dunno how much fighting will actually be done in the *usual* areas.
Was thinking moreover pets like Sib Waterwalkers etc which DD/Root

 

[Puppetmistress]

Pets in RvR suck. Why? Well, what most sorcs don't know your charmed pet cons wrong. Yeah! If you're a lvl 50 sorc, you're charmed pet will be maximally level 44 (internally) even if it cons yellow to you. So that's the first thing wrong with the pet.

But that's not all. Some other realm-characters can 'decharm' your pet and throw it back on you. But THEN it's gonna be the original level. So you get your own pet on your ass and it's BETTER then (!)

Wanna farm up RP and don't be the first to die? Go for mind 20/24 and throw the rest in body.

You're gonna 'suck' in CC, true... But you can defend your ass with your nukes (which are very decent with the RA) and do some decent AoE dexterity/quickness debuffs on your little friends from Lurikeen-land

Face it: Sorcs suck in CC in RvR due to the insta's they don't have. And you can pick out a sorc easily: Look at his colours when he's casting (same as cabby, but he has a pet) so you're gonna be first target.


I can't blame the guys throwing their sorc away and roll a new character.

Puppet is still gratefull for the sorcs who are still playing, though

 

[-Dreama-]

But that's not all. Some other realm-characters can 'decharm' your pet and throw it back on you. But THEN it's gonna be the original level. So you get your own pet on your ass and it's

ok, now I have never even heard anything remotly close to that when it comes to sorc charms. once a sorc charms a pet it belongs to the sorc untill it's released or dies. No idea where you got that info, but I've never heard about it or seen anything remotly close to that done before.


I really don't get you people...I mean really
You bitch and moan that Albion doesn't have enough Sorcs then what do you do9, you procede to tell us how gimped how and how our cc sucks and our pets suck and our nukes suck. If we are such utter shit, then ffs stop inviting us to every grp you make in RvR. Then we'll see how gimped grps are without ae cc.

 

[Adri]

I believe puppet might be right

I heard rumours of a RA for other realms called Sever the Tether.

Casted on pet, pet turns and kills you - nice

 

[Vireb]

Originally posted by nanorch
Bleh, 50 radius increase = 25% more coverage.

Aussie, u dont like the way Sorc's spec/play?

Roll one.

Or stfu.

n00b.

donog = one of best sorcs i grped with , have memories of taking 3fg's plus with 1bf fg and also completly cleaning mid tk , also 1fg of bf cleaning all of df too and why couse of donog mezes its a shame he dont play much now

 

[Puppetmistress]

Originally posted by -Dreama-

ok, now I have never even heard anything remotly close to that when it comes to sorc charms. once a sorc charms a pet it belongs to the sorc untill it's released or dies. No idea where you got that info, but I've never heard about it or seen anything remotly close to that done before.

Please check the RA called "Severing the Tether" on www.camelotherald.com It costs 10 RP and is an AoE 'spell' on a 15 min. timer. Every charmed/summoned pet in the AoE returns to it's master and pounds on him instead. You don't have to believe me on my word, but just check it out.

//edit: A mentalist can buy this RA, and mentalist are popular in hibby-land

In the process, check out the spell-lines of other CC-guys out there.

I really don't get you people...I mean really
You bitch and moan that Albion doesn't have enough Sorcs then what do you do9, you procede to tell us how gimped how and how our cc sucks and our pets suck and our nukes suck. If we are such utter shit, then ffs stop inviting us to every grp you make in RvR. Then we'll see how gimped grps are without ae cc.

I didn't say your nukes sucked. I gave a decent spec for how I would spec my sorc if I rolled any. Think that wasn't too bad. And I gave some pointers to the topicstarter why speccing in 'becoming a decent CC' is a bit futile in RvR for a sorc, unless your damn lucky (e.g. the baddies are sleeping). Please check it out before you start telling me I am bitching and moaning.

Sure I welcome a sorc in my group. It's the best CC we Albs have. But it's no way close to what the other realms have. That's what I am telling you.

And I know from experience it can be VERY frustrating to play a sorc in these circumstances. That's why I gave my opinion in how to spec a sorc so he can do some decent damage, still be the same CC'er as he is. And with that spec you're gonna own every tank once duelling comes to the Euro-servers in the next patch

 

[Flimgoblin]

*yawns*

34 mind 41 body...
or
24 mind 48 body

if you really can't be bothered charming a pet...

Matter is amusing if I can ever manage to spend some time with Casu he'll be 50 matter 20 mind

DoTs are fun in the battlegrounds... no idea about the real RvR - I'll tell you how I do...

What's that about Matter being nerfed Gorre? Read nothing about it (that said it's pretty hard to nerf base dot, spec dot, dd/snare and dex, dex/qui, aoe dex/qui debuffs )

Or did you mean it gets boosted? (which it did last patch)

And if I wanted a pet and AoE DoT I'd have rolled a cabalist you're right but I like my baseline single target mezz, runspeed and a snare/nuke

 

[belth]

Originally posted by AdriXavier
I believe puppet might be right

I heard rumours of a RA for other realms called Sever the Tether.

Casted on pet, pet turns and kills you - nice

Mentalist class specific RA that's bugged. Lucky propably 0.1% of ments take it It's the ultimate necro killing spell in SI, atleast currently.