Sorc is overpowered... yeah!

enigma

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majik said:
Take a second to think about it before you just reply with any random message. I was referring to pet spamming in croc mode if you would like to read my earlier post instead of just acting like a smartass, this post carries on from the earlier one I made, which is an easy assumption if you actually read it. And fyi I was the person who mentioned croc form so I know what this discussion is about mmkay?

Your post refers to Filips post. A point I was trying to make was that the only differance between yours and his post was who was dying, and depends completely on the situation. Not only based on if the theurg was in crocmode vs his attacker, where crocmode wouldn't be THAT decisive to the outcome of the battle between the two. Crocmode on a primary damage dealer is much more important since it's not only BEFORE he starts to nuke that it's important to find him, but also during his nuking.

With a theurg it's not exactly hard to find him WHILE he petspams.
 

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Perhaps I was not so clear in my post.

I meant to point out that disabling a theurgist in croc mode isn't just a step by step guide and that there are other factors that influence it.

I agree with how you say it isn't difficult to find a theurg while he is pet spamming as you can obviously see the pets. But if a theurg see's a tank running at him he will run away and the tank will most likely be cc'd in some form, then the croc can scuttle off behind another tree and interupt the support classes some more.

The fact of whether you can see a theurgist or not can be VERY important in the result of a fight, because if there are several chain stunning pets on the healers of a group, the offensive side of that theurgists group has a chance to nuke down people without even insta's being able to be used.

Croc mode on a primary deamage dealer can be more effective, but what is more effective?
-A croc theurg interupting the healers of a group while other casters nuke them down. (assuming she/he has not been spotted and targetted first)
-Or the healers being able to interupt the theurgist of the group as he can be easily seen and therefore being able to interupt the rest of the group.

The answers are entirely circumstancial.
 

Filip

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no arnor you are just beening stupon here .. stop it for your own sake, it really makes you look stupid..

back to facts .

why croc form ? to hide his location...
can a pet spamming theug hide his location ? no...

thats why croc form is MORE important for nukers than for a petter.

if you still wanna be stupon on this so be it, i would just advise you to give it up.
 

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Sorry Filip I forgot that everything you say is correct and that I shouldn't argue against someone of your intellect, won't happen again...
 

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in croc form you can break from the group before the mez land/is cast and find yourself somewhere to hide, better to do it as a croc rather than a sillly lanky avalonian.
 

Unalive

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Of course croc mode helps hide where your petting from it also makes you much harder to target while moving. If you stand in one place and cast pets and dont move after say 3-4 pets its obvious that you are going to be seen.
majik speaks the truth :) and tbh im air spec so most of the time im not at 2k+ range if we win the mezz since im assisting or nuking casters down before mezz wears off or is GP'd. Crocmode helps greatly when solo'ing also if you use the terain to your advantage.
 

Danya

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Funny how this changed from moc is crap to "omgroflmao croc mode theurgs r teh r0x m8s!!!"
 

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croc form helps a theurg disguise his class until he starts petting, and makes him slightly harder to target in all (being small an all). which hopefully will give the theurg 4-5 secs of petting which should take out some support, until he/she gets immobilised himself, all depends on situation wether croc form helps or not.
all imo ofc :)

so in short, i agree with both arnor and filip arguments to a degree ;)

i'm still trying to get atlantis tablet on my theurg for the various reasons posted in the thread so far, even tho i play mid atm :p
 

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Danya said:
Funny how this changed from moc is crap to "omgroflmao croc mode theurgs r teh r0x m8s!!!"

Croc whine is so much better than moc whine...
 

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i wonder how the game works when it decides if a player is in range of a aoe/gt-aoe effect spell. does croc-form lower your "profile"?

case: a normal character stands at the same spot, someone uses a gt-aoe spell, and hits him. he moves out of range, just exactly enough to step a tiny bit forward and get hit by the gt-aoe again, then use his croc-form. would he still get hit or would his profile also be smaller?

if yes, then croc-form has more than the use of being hard to target and hard to recognize (in respect of what class you're facing)


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Fyric

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such typically retarded alb whine, i'm not overpowered enough ;< i want more more more more more(you've been getting more since day one, honestly your whine about absolutely nothing is getting tiresome, if u aren't used to it by now, go play something else)
 

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Crimson LoneWolf said:
i wonder how the game works when it decides if a player is in range of a aoe/gt-aoe effect spell. does croc-form lower your "profile"?

case: a normal character stands at the same spot, someone uses a gt-aoe spell, and hits him. he moves out of range, just exactly enough to step a tiny bit forward and get hit by the gt-aoe again, then use his croc-form. would he still get hit or would his profile also be smaller?

if yes, then croc-form has more than the use of being hard to target and hard to recognize (in respect of what class you're facing)
It probably uses the position of your feet to determine it, in which case it won't be affected by croc form.
 

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Danya said:
Funny how this changed from moc is crap to "omgroflmao croc mode theurgs r teh r0x m8s!!!"


SHH FFS!!!!

we almost had this train on the side of the rails!!
 

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funny thing in my thread, where a Mod said i was talking to myself before he locked it.. very strange.. i quoted maji, didnt know you got classed as a schitzofrenic case due to quoting..:/
 

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Namefake said:
funny thing in my thread, where a Mod said i was talking to myself before he locked it.. very strange.. i quoted maji, didnt know you got classed as a schitzofrenic case due to quoting..:/

Maji r0x
 

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Fyric said:
such typically retarded alb whine, i'm not overpowered enough ;< i want more more more more more(you've been getting more since day one, honestly your whine about absolutely nothing is getting tiresome, if u aren't used to it by now, go play something else)
ok then, if you think alb is overpowered you still got a lot to learn. I don't want more, I don't want FZ, what I want is for FZ to be nerfed, lengthen the timer, allow casters to cast while riding a FZ. FZ is a great idea for an ability to counter BG but atm its way too powerful and up far too often.
 

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